Fran or no Fran?

[spinedoc]

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If the 7 mil is in dollars, then the actual buy out in euros would be less. That is my point.

Unless they already converted the difference when they reported that, but yeah, good point. I don't buy the fact that he's a bust yet, until we get some real basketball knowledge in his head. Stan is a bit higher on the food chain over these Euro coaches. And as long as he is at least as good as Gortat, then I welcome him with open arms, which I'm sure he is given what I've seen on the Youtube videos. It will be nice to have some decent competition for playing time off the bench next year. Battie only has two years left on his contract, and Cook isn't a long term answer either. Hopefully Fran and Gortat can grow into a significant role for us.

[sportsrock37]

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If the 7 mil is in dollars, then the actual buy out in euros would be less. That is my point.

Yeah just to clarify even more if it's $1 = 1.5 euros, then that means the American dollar is worth more, because you could get a KFC snacker for $1 in America, while you would have to shell out 1.5 euro to get it. (Sorry just saw that commercial) So the dollar gets you more than the euro.

I'll take Fran just to get another big body and let us focus on PG/SG in the draft, FA, and potential trades.

[spinedoc]

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Yeah just to clarify even more if it's $1 = 1.5 euros, then that means the American dollar is worth more, because you could get a KFC snacker for $1 in America, while you would have to shell out 1.5 euro to get it. (Sorry just saw that commercial) So the dollar gets you more than the euro.

I'll take Fran just to get another big body and let us focus on PG/SG in the draft, FA, and potential trades.

Sorry, but thats not right. Its the other way around. 1Euro=1.54 dollars.

[sportsrock37]

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Sorry, but thats not right. Its the other way around. 1Euro=1.54 dollars.

Gotcha, I read it wrong. My bad.

[BassMaster]

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If the 7 mil is in dollars, then the actual buy out in euros would be less. That is my point.

The buyout clause is in Euro's not dollars.

[Devin 1L]

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The buyout clause is in Euro's not dollars.

Do you have a link?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but you were just throwing around buyout numbers like $30 million and a 1.97 conversion rate, so I'd just like to see some sort of confirmation.

[BassMaster]

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Do you have a link?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but you were just throwing around buyout numbers like $30 million and a 1.97 conversion rate, so I'd just like to see some sort of confirmation.

Here is link:

http://www.eurobasket.com/player.asp?Cn ... erID=43525

[Devin 1L]

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Here is link:

http://www.eurobasket.com/player.asp?Cn ... erID=43525

Am I missing something, or do you have to have a paid subscription to view that?

[TheGlyde]

I just found several articles, some say its 7million dollars, some say 7million Euros.

I'm not about to pick one article/page and pretend I know its correct over the others, I have no idea which it is.

[BassMaster]

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Am I missing something, or do you have to have a paid subscription to view that?

ss you can't copy and paste their information. I had a better source at the FL Today forum, but those idiots went and changed the forum, but didn't carry over the posts from the old forum. Current forum is on life support the only good thing going for that forum is John Dentons blogs.

[aleZ]

I don't buy the fact that he's a bust yet

His numbers and PT dropped in the last seasons. Some guys here are playing the Darko game waiting for his explosion, no matter if that needs 10 years. I really can't see where he fits in if Battie comes back next season. He's not a banger by any means, more of a "multi-role" player.

I'd put him on par with Gortat, but Marcin has shown a lot more hustle and will to improve (not to mention come over and play).

[MitchellUK]

I'm not adverse to seeing Fran come over if he can negotiate his buyout. He was awful for Barca through the first few month's of the European season, but after a coaching change, in February he showed a marked improvement and starting playing like the guy who worked his way into the draft lottery in 05, and was actually one of Barca's best players in the Euroleague playoffs.

Ultimately, he'll be in Florida on a rookie scale contract - if it turns out he can't cut it in the NBA, paying him $2m a year to be a 14th man is still better than paying Pat Garrity and Carlos Arroyo $4m a year each to be third stringers. And they can always decline his option after a couple of years. It wouldn't help the opinion of Otis' draft abilities, but picking him 11th and then never even bringing him across arguably hurts more.

We'll never know what he can do in the NBA if he never sets foot in the country.

[spinedoc]

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His numbers and PT dropped in the last seasons. Some guys here are playing the Darko game waiting for his explosion, no matter if that needs 10 years. I really can't see where he fits in if Battie comes back next season. He's not a banger by any means, more of a "multi-role" player.

I'd put him on par with Gortat, but Marcin has shown a lot more hustle and will to improve (not to mention come over and play).

No offense Alez, because I realize that your in the heart of Europe, but its the Euro league. If this was soccer or hockey, it would mean so much more, but its basketball. You guys address the sport in a whole different way then we do here in the states. If he doesn't respond to SVG in a reasonable time frame, and he fails with a known commodity, then I will gladly give him the bust tag. Watching those videos of him, you can see the boy has talent. And considering we have Auggie on this team, the bar for him to do well enough to make this team is not that high. I'll take another Gortat as you say, and let them push each other for playing time. We have a two year window to start getting some decent depth for our frontcourt, because Battie will be expiring by then, and will be on the decline. Lets bring him over and see what he really has before we make any definitive judgment.

[Rasheeed!!!]

sometimes I wonder what the Magic would look like had they not wasted lottery picks on Vasquez and Reddick.

[cwas2882]

Probably better than the Pistons.

[aleZ]

No offense Alez, because I realize that your in the heart of Europe, but its the Euro league. If this was soccer or hockey, it would mean so much more, but its basketball. You guys address the sport in a whole different way then we do here in the states.

It's not the Euroleague, what you guys call "euroleague" is a parallel tourney (one of many) which runs together with every country's national championship(s). So, you're even more right about it Fran didn't even face the whole of Europe, mostly spanish teams and in Spain there's around 4 squads, being optimistic, who could barely make the NBA playoffs.

All the above to say that yeah, I'm all for bringing him here, sorry "there", but he seems like the type of guy who isn't happy with a rookie contract and a lot of bench time.

[The Effect]

i dont follow it to closely, and so i might be wrong, but hasnt he been sucking it up in spain and is barely even playing over there?

[aleZ]

i dont follow it to closely, and so i might be wrong, but hasnt he been sucking it up in spain and is barely even playing over there?

I've already posted the link to the Barcelona's site (his current team and a top tier team in Europe) where they basically say he played better for other teams before going there