OT - true love

[Optimus_Steel]

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That is a very true theory and maybe your right. When I say we never fought I mean we never had a big blowout and maybe we needed one. Yea she would get mad over something little but it was literally for an hour and we would make up(and this was very infrequent). The thing about our relationship was that it was very open and I know things about her that noone else probably ever will so I feel if that was it she should have talked to me but maybe she didn't.
I knew the 1st day when something was wrong I could just sense it, we talked about it and agreed it would be best for her to take some "time", however the more pple I talk to it seems like this "time" she needs is more than a couple of weeks and even months.
I have kept very little contact with her to give her her space but the little contact I have had(e-mail) doesn't sound like she is coming around

One thing i have noticed from my friends and family being in relationships is that if you are the type of guy that never ever fights, in the long run it hurts u cuz she starts thinking that you got no passion or that ur a pushover and she losses interest and respect for you. I think sometimes people are afraid to create tension in a relationship, but all tension is really not bad. Sometimes you need a lively discussion to clear the air. A good thing about fighting is that it keeps both of you on your toes and it stir things up, stirs up emotions, passions and such. Shows her that you are passionate and not a push over which helps keep her interest and respect for u. Now im not saying to go ahead and just start up an argument about something, but that if is there something that has been bothering you for some time and the subject comes up dont be afraid to let her know about it. Having a a lil bit of tension is not bad i find.

[happypedro12]

well i thank everyone for their input but i guess it is a no go. my friend never responded and i leave milan tomorrow, so i don't think i am goin. the more and more i thought about the situation it just seemed like i was chasing someone that doesn't want to be chased. sure i could go to toronto and profess my love, but even if i do that, it's still about 98% failure rate. i mean the last thing she said to me was i really do love my fiancee and couldn't imagine life without him. what we had will forever be in my heart but love is a fire that needs two people to keep it going. even if i throw the best log in the world on it, i still need her breath to give it life. on top of that, i don't think being told no twice is worth me buying my own ticket at like 1000 dollars. so.........if he calls me and says he has a $200 flight from FL to toronto and back for 2 days, then we might go just for craps and giggles. but other than that i think i need to know when to hold em and when to fold em. just completely crushed.

[Potterman]

Some good comments here. Sorry for Pedro. It appears though as for as broken hearts you got company on this board.

LaVal that just plain sucks man. My last relationship was EXTREMELY close to yours. *She wanted to wrap up college.* She did call me one day just to apologize "for everything but nothing specific" but then proceeded to say she still doesn't want to talk.

Been a crushed man ever since. At least with my desire for women.

[laVal03]

Some good comments here. Sorry for Pedro. It appears though as for as broken hearts you got company on this board.

LaVal that just plain sucks man. My last relationship was EXTREMELY close to yours. *She wanted to wrap up college.* She did call me one day just to apologize "for everything but nothing specific" but then proceeded to say she still doesn't want to talk.

Been a crushed man ever since. At least with my desire for women.

Yea it sux b/c u think you have your life planned out and then all of a sudden *WHAM* Thing is since it happened I have talked to so many women about it and have found that it is pretty common especially at her age however, that does me no good. The worst part about it is that most of them realized they made a mistake like a year or so later and it was too late
I guess I just have to live by the ol' "if it was meant to be it will be"
I've given that advice to soo many ppl but when your the one getting the advice it doesn't seem right or fair

[Potterman]

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Yea it sux b/c u think you have your life planned out and then all of a sudden *WHAM* Thing is since it happened I have talked to so many women about it and have found that it is pretty common especially at her age however, that does me no good. The worst part about it is that most of them realized they made a mistake like a year or so later and it was too late
I guess I just have to live by the ol' "if it was meant to be it will be"
I've given that advice to soo many ppl but when your the one getting the advice it doesn't seem right or fair

"Talking" with women has never been a problem. I am just reffering to relationship/date wise. Again you are right in the whole feeling a bit lost in what to do next with your life. I've forced myself to look at it as a chance to do some things I couldn't do in my relationship. Sorta like a "dreams list".

So far I've done the following.
1) Started Smoking Cigars - Girl said it was unhealthy and asked me not to so I did.
2) Own a gun. - Again girl was against fire arms.

Currently Working Towards:
3) Drag racing - Girl said "never cause it was too dangerous"...I'll be doing it shortly.
4) Go outside the country.
5) Whatever I feel like.

[laVal03]

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"Talking" with women has never been a problem. I am just reffering to relationship/date wise. Again you are right in the whole feeling a bit lost in what to do next with your life. I've forced myself to look at it as a chance to do some things I couldn't do in my relationship. Sorta like a "dreams list".

So far I've done the following.
1) Started Smoking Cigars - Girl said it was unhealthy and asked me not to so I did.
2) Own a gun. - Again girl was against fire arms.

Currently Working Towards:
3) Drag racing - Girl said "never cause it was too dangerous"...I'll be doing it shortly.
4) Go outside the country.
5) Whatever I feel like.

you have to look at it as an opportunity, she did not hold me down from much that was what was great is we let each other do what we wanted

the one thing I knew not to ask was to take a job outside of Florida or even this area for that matter b/c she was very family oriented and they are all here........in the next few months I will be exploring those options

I own a gun and she hated it so it stayed under my bed, not the case nemore

[Potterman]

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you have to look at it as an opportunity, she did not hold me down from much that was what was great is we let each other do what we wanted

the one thing I knew not to ask was to take a job outside of Florida or even this area for that matter b/c she was very family oriented and they are all here........in the next few months I will be exploring those options

I own a gun and she hated it so it stayed under my bed, not the case nemore

Kinda my point. I see it as my personal opportunity just to try some things I couldn't before. I wasn't trying to imply she held me back cause really everything on the list is something you can do without to some extents.

Why would you want to move away from the Magic though?

[laVal03]

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Kinda my point. I see it as my personal opportunity just to try some things I couldn't before. I wasn't trying to imply she held me back cause really everything on the list is something you can do without to some extents.

Why would you want to move away from the Magic though?

That would be the only thing holding me back, I already moved back to Tampa but still get to games, when I left Orlando thats the only thing I missed!