Draft Day Trade Idea...

[Cammo101]

Don't call me Otis, but...

I like Jameer

I know his size issues and that he actually was a SG in college, but I think he's adapted fairly well on the fly with all the craziness he's endured the last year. The other thing is he has a guaranteed contract, so were pretty much stuck with him for awhile unless you're intent on trading him. IMO we trade way too many players before their prime and have suffered the consequnces way too long to try with Meer.

Jameer was so not a SG in college.

[jprufrock40]

Mayo would give us a PG with size, and give us the chance to give Redick some minutes at the 2. But Love should be the guy if we can trade up. He'd be the perfect jump-shooting/rebounding PF to pair with Dwight.

[Cammo101]

Mayo would give us a PG with size, and give us the chance to give Redick some minutes at the 2. But Love should be the guy if we can trade up. He'd be the perfect jump-shooting/rebounding PF to pair with Dwight.

Mayo is a top 5 pick. We have no way to get one. Agreed about Love, though his lack of athleticism is a concern considering how often we run.

[eyriq]

Mayo would give us a PG with size, and give us the chance to give Redick some minutes at the 2. But Love should be the guy if we can trade up. He'd be the perfect jump-shooting/rebounding PF to pair with Dwight.

I like Love a lot too. His passing would be a huge boon on this team. I think he'll be a star to boot.

[fendilim]

I think trading Hedo will be a lot harder coming into next season, mainly because Hedo is the main guy of this team especially during crunch time.

One poster mentioned about GSW and SEA trading Jrich and Ray Allen for for lottery picks. I think there is a big difference here, however.

GSW did that trade because they thought acquiring Brandan Wright and adding other pieces would give them a bigger deal - acquiring KG. Look how it ended up for them, Jrich played an integral part of their team's success last year, they were left nowhere to be seen in the playoffs. Sure Monta wouldn't be playing this way had Jrich not been traded. But Jrich could have played minutes of other players such as Azubuike.

Seattle traded Ray Allen for a lottery because they wanted to re-build.

We are nowhere near the situation of this 2 teams.

Also, why trade Hedo for an unproven player?

[fendilim]

Was Jason Williams? Is Derek Fisher? Was Avery Johnson? They have all won championships.

Jameer has never been given the opportunity to run a decent offense. He played behind Steve Francis, then played for Brian Hill when the offense was Grant Hill iso's, and now plays essentially behind Hedo. He has proven that if you put the ball in his hands consistently, he creates and scores.

The big difference here is the fact that Jameer is basically a liability on defense he also has the tendency to make shots for his own.

[jprufrock40]

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Mayo is a top 5 pick. We have no way to get one. Agreed about Love, though his lack of athleticism is a concern considering how often we run.

Imagine the fast breaks Love could start with his famous if overhyped outlet passes.

[theTHIEF]

1) Draft best big available
2) JJ Redick+Bogans+Future 1st to Memphis for Javaris Crittenton
3) Re-sign MOE
4) TRY and re-sign Dooling
5) Bring over Fran
6) MLE a SG

Nelson/Crittenton/Dooling
MLE/MOE/Dooling
Lewis/Hedo/Cook
Battie/Draft*/Fran
Dwight/Gortat/Foyle/Draft*

*save current roster, and exit to main menu*

[zuppafly]

Would Memphis do that?
I'd love it, but I don't really see why they'd do it :\


edit: ah, wait, I missed that future first... I don't know about it.. might be too high of a price to pay for a prospect like Javaris...

[theTHIEF]

and the Magic aren't familiar with overpaying

yea, it may be a little much, but Crittenton is a big, long, athletic guard who can pass and score and he is an SOB on defense...with everyone whining about those attributes in a PG, would anyone really be upset if that happened?

maybe we take back a 2nd rounder or something as well as Critt...

Memphis may or may not do it, that pick will help them in their rebuilding, Bogans is an expiring and JJ is another JCN guy, might actually get some burn in their limited rotation...

never know...

[NBAChamps2010]

Speaking of 2nd rounders, this year is shaping up to be deep at the 4 and 5. We should try to buy somebody's 2nd rounder and pick up a big to develop. Alexis Ajinca is all over the draft boards, but may end up a 2nd rounder. And Nathan Jawai is a sleeper, but the guy looks like a beast.
The Magic are due for a good player out of the 2nd round. Let's see, the last gem we uncovered in the 2nd round was...

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nathan-Jawai-1404/

[fendilim]

Speaking of 2nd rounders, this year is shaping up to be deep at the 4 and 5. We should try to buy somebody's 2nd rounder and pick up a big to develop. Alexis Ajinca is all over the draft boards, but may end up a 2nd rounder. And Nathan Jawai is a sleeper, but the guy looks like a beast.
The Magic are due for a good player out of the 2nd round. Let's see, the last gem we uncovered in the 2nd round was...

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nathan-Jawai-1404/

only thing is Dave is good at. drafting a decent 2nd rounder.

[lovehoops01]

You know I don't think you be able to move up very far offering just JJ Redick. A player taken 8-12 should be a rotation player by the end of there rookie year and a starter by his second year. You really are lucky to get a rotation player by pick 22. Are you going to give up what you can get at 8-12 for JJ Redick. Redick is not close to a starter or in the rotation on a team that sports one of the weakest SG positions in the league. There may be a few teams that sell there first round picks to save on luxury tax

I don't think New Jersey will trade with the Magic. They might trade a couple of their picks (they have three in the first 40), but I think they are looking to use them to sweeten the pot in a big trade. They are looking to make some kind of a big splash. Did you see the rumor that they want to trade for Carmelo Anthony AND Marcus Camby? Yeesh.....They must be smoking some good stuff up there unless Michael Heisley bought that team now, too.

I think Portland might be wiling to make a deal with someone -- not necessarily saying it will be the Magic. The Blazers have a lot of very young players -- and Joel Pryzbilla and Steve Blake. They don't need any more young guys; they need a vet or two.

I have been reading all these threads and can't remember where it was suggested, but I have heard that Anthony Johnson is a really crummy locker-room guy.

[lovehoops01]

Has anyone thought of the posssibiliy of trading Hedo staight up for a lottery pick?

In last years draft, Ray Allen was traded for the 5th pick and Jason Richardson was traded for the 7th pick.

Hedo is younger (I think), cheaper and better than both of those players.

It would be interesting to see if we could trade Hedo to a team like the Bucks and get the sixth overall pick.

Then we could select a guy like Brook Lopez with the sixth pick to pair with Dwight and use our late first on a denfensive-minded SG who can make 3's (Chris Douglas-Roberts or Brandon Rush)

Lineup

Dwight
Lopez
Rashard
Douglas-Roberts
Nelson

Or we could draft a guy like Eric Gordon or Mayo w/ the sixth (if he slips due to recent allegations) and pick a big with our late first.

Dwight
Arthur or Robin Lopez
Rashard
Mayo or Gordon
Nelson

I hate losing Hedo but these things are fun to think about.

You know, one of the reasons the Magic lost to the Pistons is because Detroit has vastly more playoff experience and knowledge of how to win in the playoffs. I don't think this trade helps that situation at all. It makes the problem a lot worse.

[lovehoops01]

Oh I forgot to mention part II of the trade. I believe we should send JJ + Bogans/cash/filler to Sac for Artest so we can get some attitude and a solid SG/SF. If not that then the same JJ + Bogans/filler/cash to the Clips for Maggette. Either way we cut down our logjam at SG and bring in a quality player.

I used to think the Magic would never bring in a ballsy guy like Artest, but Brian Schmitz's blog today says that VDW is willing to trade for a "surly" forward because the Magic are tired of being boy scouts. :clap: :clap:

We have the talent, we just need the 'tude.

I'm OK with surly players -- just not ones that end up forcing every team they play for to break up within two years of him getting there. No to Artest. He's got a record....first Chicago, then Indiana, then Sacramento. When it happens three times, it's not just a coincidence.

[lovehoops01]

1) Draft best big available
2) JJ Redick+Bogans+Future 1st to Memphis for Javaris Crittenton
3) Re-sign MOE
4) TRY and re-sign Dooling
5) Bring over Fran
6) MLE a SG

Nelson/Crittenton/Dooling
MLE/MOE/Dooling
Lewis/Hedo/Cook
Battie/Draft*/Fran
Dwight/Gortat/Foyle/Draft*

*save current roster, and exit to main menu*

I don't really mind the deal, but isn't that a lot of money in contracts to deal away for a rookie contract? I don't know if that works under the CBA.

You're going to trade away your man Bogans, Thief? What is up with that?

[lovehoops01]

Speaking of 2nd rounders, this year is shaping up to be deep at the 4 and 5. We should try to buy somebody's 2nd rounder and pick up a big to develop. Alexis Ajinca is all over the draft boards, but may end up a 2nd rounder. And Nathan Jawai is a sleeper, but the guy looks like a beast.
The Magic are due for a good player out of the 2nd round. Let's see, the last gem we uncovered in the 2nd round was...

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nathan-Jawai-1404/

The Magic will have plenty of projects at the 4/5 spot if they keep Gortat and if they ever bring over Vazquez (not convinced that they will but if you get another project big, then Fran remains in Europe for life).

[leo6287]

I don't think we can trade our 1st Round pick this Draft.

You say this everytime we talk about 1st round picks. Do you not understand what i have been telling you and others.


But back at the topic at hand I think Portland is the team or the only team that would like that type of deal but I think we are over paying with 09 pick and they can just keep there 2nd

so

JJ #22 and a future 2nd

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#12 or #13