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Re: Redick won't be traded (Denton) 

Post#61 » by BassMaster » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:24 am

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cougar13 wrote:Well if we had gone by the comments made by SVG that summer when Redick didn't just score, but he also showed he could play defense that is what SVG said. And all it got Redick was the bench.
So saying that because of his great summer league play Lee is better then Redick means nothing, since as so many here keep saying (or did until this summer) that in summer league you are not playing against anyone of NBA caliber wait until the real season begins to see that kind of action.

As I have said before wait for the real action to begin before you crown Lee.


As I said before , I'm not basing anything on summer league . Lee has a better skill set than JJ . JJ is a shooter and that's it . SVG will never play him significant minutes because he's such a liability on defense . Since you don't like what I'm saying you probably haven't read any expert opinions so here's a few links for you

http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draf ... tyear=2008

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/10878363

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=y ... &type=lgns

If you weren't such a JJ homer you would already know this. If JJ is still here when the season starts he will be at the end of the bench again


Lets see you are saying Lee is starting material because of what a 3 "experts" said about the draft and of course what you said Lee did in Summer League.
Did you know that Chad Ford said that Redick was a perfect fit for Orlando when he was drafted. I mean if you want to go by the "experts" instead of actual play then you will be able to find anything you want.
So lets take some information from your experts that you linked to such as this from espn:
It's interesting that, given the Magic's needs in the post, they didn't grab Darrell Arthur. He is saying that instead of the Magic drafting Lee.
Next we have sportsline and Gary Parrish who calls mocks drafts ridiculous well that sums up that expert.
The we have yahoo who actually used DraftExpress who said they have this thing about Lee, but interesting enough they had this same very thing about Redick when he was drafted by the Magic.

So as I said in this post you can find anything you want to make your spin. I wouldn't say point of view because these "experts" are just spinning and that is what they do every year hoping that in the end they call the draft correctly.

What I posted and you ignored was that summer league proves nothing now we have to see how Lee performs in the real world of the NBA that will be more telling.
Right now they are going to have to fight to see who starts and who backs up each other so that the Magic will go further then last year.
If we went my your reasoning then only you get to pick and choose who would start for the Magic, but that isn't how it works.
Tryouts start Oct. 1st when the team really starts to practice together then SVG can see what works and what doesn't.
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Re: Redick won't be traded (Denton) 

Post#62 » by TNMagicFan » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:38 am

cougar13 wrote:
d12fan wrote:
cougar13 wrote:Well if we had gone by the comments made by SVG that summer when Redick didn't just score, but he also showed he could play defense that is what SVG said. And all it got Redick was the bench.
So saying that because of his great summer league play Lee is better then Redick means nothing, since as so many here keep saying (or did until this summer) that in summer league you are not playing against anyone of NBA caliber wait until the real season begins to see that kind of action.

As I have said before wait for the real action to begin before you crown Lee.


As I said before , I'm not basing anything on summer league . Lee has a better skill set than JJ . JJ is a shooter and that's it . SVG will never play him significant minutes because he's such a liability on defense . Since you don't like what I'm saying you probably haven't read any expert opinions so here's a few links for you

http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draf ... tyear=2008

http://www.sportsline.com/nba/story/10878363

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=y ... &type=lgns

If you weren't such a JJ homer you would already know this. If JJ is still here when the season starts he will be at the end of the bench again


Lets see you are saying Lee is starting material because of what a 3 "experts" said about the draft and of course what you said Lee did in Summer League.
Did you know that Chad Ford said that Redick was a perfect fit for Orlando when he was drafted. I mean if you want to go by the "experts" instead of actual play then you will be able to find anything you want.
So lets take some information from your experts that you linked to such as this from espn:
It's interesting that, given the Magic's needs in the post, they didn't grab Darrell Arthur. He is saying that instead of the Magic drafting Lee.
Next we have sportsline and Gary Parrish who calls mocks drafts ridiculous well that sums up that expert.
The we have yahoo who actually used DraftExpress who said they have this thing about Lee, but interesting enough they had this same very thing about Redick when he was drafted by the Magic.

So as I said in this post you can find anything you want to make your spin. I wouldn't say point of view because these "experts" are just spinning and that is what they do every year hoping that in the end they call the draft correctly.

What I posted and you ignored was that summer league proves nothing now we have to see how Lee performs in the real world of the NBA that will be more telling.
Right now they are going to have to fight to see who starts and who backs up each other so that the Magic will go further then last year.
If we went my your reasoning then only you get to pick and choose who would start for the Magic, but that isn't how it works.
Tryouts start Oct. 1st when the team really starts to practice together then SVG can see what works and what doesn't.


For the last time , I don't care about summer league . Summer league has nothing to do with it . You're the one that keeps bringing up summer league in every JJ related post you make . Lee has the athleticism and defensive ability that JJ will never have . I didn't say Lee was starting material either ,but he will be ahead of JJ in the rotation. BTW there were alot more than 3 experts who like Lee , I just gave a few examples
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Re: Redick won't be traded (Denton) 

Post#63 » by BassMaster » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:11 am

Lets see you are saying Lee is starting material because of what a 3 "experts" said about the draft and of course what you said Lee did in Summer League.
Did you know that Chad Ford said that Redick was a perfect fit for Orlando when he was drafted. I mean if you want to go by the "experts" instead of actual play then you will be able to find anything you want.
So lets take some information from your experts that you linked to such as this from espn:
It's interesting that, given the Magic's needs in the post, they didn't grab Darrell Arthur. He is saying that instead of the Magic drafting Lee.
Next we have sportsline and Gary Parrish who calls mocks drafts ridiculous well that sums up that expert.
The we have yahoo who actually used DraftExpress who said they have this thing about Lee, but interesting enough they had this same very thing about Redick when he was drafted by the Magic.

So as I said in this post you can find anything you want to make your spin. I wouldn't say point of view because these "experts" are just spinning and that is what they do every year hoping that in the end they call the draft correctly.

What I posted and you ignored was that summer league proves nothing now we have to see how Lee performs in the real world of the NBA that will be more telling.
Right now they are going to have to fight to see who starts and who backs up each other so that the Magic will go further then last year.
If we went my your reasoning then only you get to pick and choose who would start for the Magic, but that isn't how it works.
Tryouts start Oct. 1st when the team really starts to practice together then SVG can see what works and what doesn't.[/quote]

For the last time , I don't care about summer league . Summer league has nothing to do with it . You're the one that keeps bringing up summer league in every JJ related post you make . Lee has the athleticism and defensive ability that JJ will never have . I didn't say Lee was starting material either ,but he will be ahead of JJ in the rotation. BTW there were alot more than 3 experts who like Lee , I just gave a few examples[/quote]

And you know that Lee plays how well because three "experts" say he does. And I say wait until the real action begins before you put Lee as your starting SG. Oct 1st is a good starting date for Lee to find out how well he plays against first his teammates then later other teams.
For now he is an unproven player not some wonder kin.
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Re: Redick still hoping for playing time in Orlando (Denton) 

Post#64 » by sportsrock37 » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:18 am

cougar, like I said in my previous post. I know you weren't around here last year, but last year EVERYONE was praising JJ as well for the summer league. There was a poll for starters and quite a few people picked JJ to start over Hedo because of the summer league. I completely agree that the summer league doesn't mean squat, so I don't look at the statistics at all. There are plenty of others though that since there hasn't been basketball in a month and a half overhype players for summer league. I watched the games and Lee just looks like he has the better skill set for what SVG likes in players. I'm not expecting him to start or put up 21 ppg because he did in a summer league. I've been saying I'd be ecstatic if he played 15 mins and produced in those minutes. I'm a well known "JJ Hater" but he's had 2 full years in the NBA and hasn't gotten off the bench, why is it so hard for you to accept our opinion that Lee will likely get the backup spot over JJ? Of course they will compete for the backup spot, I just think Lee has the advantage because he is somewhat gifted athletically and that allows him to play more quality defense then JJ. Obviously that is what SVG is looking at in a backup SG because he had Evans/Bogans get the minutes over JJ(Evans while Bogans was starting). I just wish we would trade him and get it over with so the kid can have a chance somewhere else and he doesn't waste his career rotting on our bench. That's like Gortat/Augustine, we are pleased that they produced out there, but we aren't expecting Gortat to get close to a double double because of summer league. Obviously none of us decide who's starting and who's backing up, so basically all we're saying is opinions.
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Re: Redick still hoping for playing time in Orlando (Denton) 

Post#65 » by BassMaster » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:28 am

IMO exactly.
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Re: Redick still hoping for playing time in Orlando (Denton) 

Post#66 » by sChOlaRlY_Magi » Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:45 am

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