Keith Appling Agrees To Two-Year Deal With Magic

[tiderulz]

I was coming in here to write this post myself ha. Listen if Appling is on the team I will be pulling for him to do great. But IMO we have had two better players the last two years in summer league at his position. Seth Curry and Wilbekin both just killed in Vegas.

I mean I think it's pretty obvious Seth Curry is more then a serviceable NBA player. He will never be his brother (who will?) but the guy has proven in the ACC and NBDL as well as summer league he can play. I mean he has to have a little of Steph in him right?

I am one of the biggest gator BASKETBALL fans you will find. But after Scottie's summer league performance last year I found it hard to believe he could make it. I know he can defend at the nba level (his on ball defense is 2nd to none) but he has really found consistency on his 3. SEC player of the year and overlooked just like Parsons.

then why werent NBA teams beating his door down. I agree with the sentiment in other posts, if his name was Seth Smith, there wouldnt be this cry. But its like everyone thinks that since he is related to Steph Curry, he will suddenly become this star, when other NBA teams have had him and let him go. Jordan had 2 brothers, neither of them were basketball stars.

Eh I'm not a huge Seth Curry fan but I can't get onboard with the claim that people only want him because he's related to Steph. He tore the summer league up. Gotta give a bit of credit where it's due.

i thought i remember Adam Morrison doing good in SL also.

[NBlue]

I was coming in here to write this post myself ha. Listen if Appling is on the team I will be pulling for him to do great. But IMO we have had two better players the last two years in summer league at his position. Seth Curry and Wilbekin both just killed in Vegas.

I mean I think it's pretty obvious Seth Curry is more then a serviceable NBA player. He will never be his brother (who will?) but the guy has proven in the ACC and NBDL as well as summer league he can play. I mean he has to have a little of Steph in him right?

I am one of the biggest gator BASKETBALL fans you will find. But after Scottie's summer league performance last year I found it hard to believe he could make it. I know he can defend at the nba level (his on ball defense is 2nd to none) but he has really found consistency on his 3. SEC player of the year and overlooked just like Parsons.

Wilbekin got a 4 year deal from Philly, which is ridiculous. Maybe the Magic DID want him, but were only willing to give him a 2 year deal like Appling, which is a pretty reasonable deal for a 3rd stringer. I don't know if I've ever seen a 3rd string player get a 4 year deal, even for the minimum.

Philly are pretty desperate for guards.

They may be desperate for quality point guards -- I think they have 5 pgs signed right now...

[J-Mezzy]

Are we keeping Hervey?

[OrlandoNed]

Are we keeping Hervey?

I would think so. Looking at the depth chart we only have 14 players. So we have room for Harvey to be the 15th guy.

[UCFJayBird]

Are we keeping Hervey?

I would think so. Looking at the depth chart we only have 14 players. So we have room for Harvey to be the 15th guy.

I think he'll be battling with Appling in training camp for a spot, with whoever loses going to the D-League. There's really not enough space for both and we could use another big man in case of injury and or foul trouble (specifically one who can play center).

[Skin]

And, looking into this further, Seth Curry shot 46.7% last year from three. That's not a misprint 46.7%! Sure, in the D-League but still. Dude can flat out shoot the ball. He averaged 23.8 ppg with a PER over 20. We told him to go jump in a lake -- we're signing Ketih Appling. Umm, ok.

Agree, I'd rather have Seth Curry.


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Gimme Seth Curry too.

Maybe Curry is seen as a guy who isn't a team player. In that sense, Appling seems more like a guy who "knows his role".

[Blue_and_Whte]

Are we keeping Hervey?

I would think so. Looking at the depth chart we only have 14 players. So we have room for Harvey to be the 15th guy.

I think he'll be battling with Appling in training camp for a spot, with whoever loses going to the D-League. There's really not enough space for both and we could use another big man in case of injury and or foul trouble (specifically one who can play center).

You don't think we have enough guys to play center between Vuc, Dedmon, Frye and Smith?

[UCFJayBird]

I would think so. Looking at the depth chart we only have 14 players. So we have room for Harvey to be the 15th guy.

I think he'll be battling with Appling in training camp for a spot, with whoever loses going to the D-League. There's really not enough space for both and we could use another big man in case of injury and or foul trouble (specifically one who can play center).

You don't think we have enough guys to play center between Vuc, Dedmon, Frye and Smith?

I don't think Frye can play center very effectively at all, unless we're going really small. I did kind of forget about Smith, and Nicholson.

The lineup with both Appling and Harvey would be below.

PG: Payton, Watson, Appling, Harvey
SG: Oladipo, Fournier, Marble
SF: Harris, Hezonja
PF: Gordon, Frye, Nicholson
C: Vucevic, Dedmon, Smith

So I suppose I could see that doing fine. We have a lot of versatility to move players around in case of injuries. Just not sure Harvey and/or Appling would be better served on the injury reserve list instead of playing with the D-League this season, especially Harvey. Might be better served sending Harvey to the d-league and picking up a big man for some additional big man depth in case of injuries.

[AddiFB]

^ I wouldn't be surprised if Appling gets on the team and Harvey spending the season in the D-League with Rob filling up the empty space by picking up a defensive big somewhere. Who?

[tillyoubleed]

Is there any cap room left?

[tooler]

Harvey is a SG and Marble is a SF. Frye is a PF/C and has said so himself. But Smith will be competing for the PF spot.

[Bensational]

Between Appling and Harvey, we should have a solid 3rs stringer who can do damage in one way or another.

Seth Curry would have been nice too, but Harvey shoots as well as him but has better handles, and he's 3 years younger so he still has a plenty of time to learn the rest of the PG role.

For me personally, I don't want my 3rd string PG to be a ball dominant shooter. Any time hes on the court, hes likely to be the worst option on offence. What you do want is someone who will come in and run the system, not turn it over, play hard defence, get the ball to his teammates in the right position, and if he can hit a wide open shot, that's great. But being a goto scorer in college is a waste of time if you are the 3rd string PG in the NBA.

Harvey doesn't need to run the point though. If he were to get minutes, it will be with the 2nd unit where Fournier/Dipo/Gordon/Harris or even Hezonja could probably initiate offense. if Harvey's college shooting translates to the NBA, then he'll be a serious weapon. He'd basically be what Patty Mills is to the Spurs.

i want my 3rd stringers to be specialists with at least one legit skill, and good defense. we've already got Watson as an average all-rounder, so Harvey's gun shooting would serve as a real plus, same way Willie and Ben Gordon were able to help turn games with some timely 3 pointers last season. hopefully Skiles can get Harvey playing solid defense.

[fendilim]

Tbh, i think we need Appling more than Harvey. We need a third Pg who is athletic and can defend. I dont see Seth filling that role.

[ezzzp]

Harvey is a SG and Marble is a SF. Frye is a PF/C and has said so himself. But Smith will be competing for the PF spot.

Smith has played a lot of center throughout his career. In NOLA he slid to the 5 when he and Anderson where on the floor, but at the 4 when he played with Davis. In NY he played a huge chunk of his minutes at center.

I see no reason why he's only competing for minutes at the 4, he'll compete for minutes at center too.

Also Harvey is a guard, depends who he is playing with that dictates what his role is, and Marble is a wing...same rule applies.

[ezzzp]

Tbh, i think we need Appling more than Harvey. We need a third Pg who is athletic and can defend. I dont see Seth filling that role.

Do Magic really need a 3d pg? minutes being sparse, Oladipo vs Appling is no contest...I can see Oladipo getting minutes where he is running the offense without Payton or Watson on the floor.

Those final roster spots are really about whose the better player, not about positional need. Magic have already have adequate depth.

[ezzzp]

Is there any cap room left?

Not really, they have about $5m, but Dedmon's (0.9m) contract becomes guaranteed August 1st if he's not waived, which I'm sure the Magic won't do. So they can have around $4m it they really want it, but they would have to get rid off cap holds. Those include non guaranteed deals such as Marble and Harvey, so its unlikely.