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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#21 » by KillMonger » Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:54 am

not excited by this draft class in any way i hope we get to the playoffs this year
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#22 » by Patrick1978 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:48 am

Immature Luigi wrote:not excited by this draft class in any way i hope we get to the playoffs this year

Are you serious?there are a lot of interesting prospects for the draft next year.jalen brown,ben simmons,dragan bender,brandon ingram,diamond stone,jamal murray,kris dunn,henry ellenson,jakob poeltl,cheokh diallo,malik pope,malik newman,troy williams,ec matthews.
Definitely a lot of interesting Players
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#23 » by KillMonger » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:02 am

Patrick1978 wrote:
Immature Luigi wrote:not excited by this draft class in any way i hope we get to the playoffs this year

Are you serious?there are a lot of interesting prospects for the draft next year.jalen brown,ben simmons,dragan bender,brandon ingram,diamond stone,jamal murray,kris dunn,henry ellenson,jakob poeltl,cheokh diallo,malik pope,malik newman,troy williams,ec matthews.
Definitely a lot of interesting Players

indeed, interesting but i don't like the strength or depth of this upcoming class albeit since i'm focusing on the NBA season i've yet to take a long look but my initial impressions doesn't make my mouth water so to speak. Didn't say the draft class was bad i just said i wasn't excited and this might be a good year to NOT be in the lottery.
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#24 » by Patrick1978 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:17 am

Immature Luigi wrote:
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Immature Luigi wrote:not excited by this draft class in any way i hope we get to the playoffs this year

Are you serious?there are a lot of interesting prospects for the draft next year.jalen brown,ben simmons,dragan bender,brandon ingram,diamond stone,jamal murray,kris dunn,henry ellenson,jakob poeltl,cheokh diallo,malik pope,malik newman,troy williams,ec matthews.
Definitely a lot of interesting Players

indeed, interesting but i don't like the strength or depth of this upcoming class albeit since i'm focusing on the NBA season i've yet to take a long look but my initial impressions doesn't make my mouth water so to speak. Didn't say the draft class was bad i just said i wasn't excited and this might be a good year to NOT be in the lottery.

I think the draft next year is good to add some bench quality
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#25 » by KillMonger » Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:18 am

Patrick1978 wrote:
Immature Luigi wrote:
Patrick1978 wrote:Are you serious?there are a lot of interesting prospects for the draft next year.jalen brown,ben simmons,dragan bender,brandon ingram,diamond stone,jamal murray,kris dunn,henry ellenson,jakob poeltl,cheokh diallo,malik pope,malik newman,troy williams,ec matthews.
Definitely a lot of interesting Players

indeed, interesting but i don't like the strength or depth of this upcoming class albeit since i'm focusing on the NBA season i've yet to take a long look but my initial impressions doesn't make my mouth water so to speak. Didn't say the draft class was bad i just said i wasn't excited and this might be a good year to NOT be in the lottery.

I think the draft next year is good to add some bench quality

I like Kris Dunn though and Poeltl, i saw some stuff on them last year good prospects. Poeltl actually did a decent job vs Okafor last season
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#26 » by MrShow » Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:22 am

What downer for someone to start a thread like this before training camp has even started.
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#27 » by Skin » Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:32 am

Diallo or Rabb pls.
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#28 » by ralphie9898 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:51 pm

Patrick1978 wrote:Buna ziua din Romania

I already watched some videos of prospects for the draft 2016
My favorites:
1.jacob poeltl from Utah university
http://youtu.be/_l1CZzyVwkI

Great post defense,rim protection and rebounding,impressive in p/r Defense

2.henry ellenson from marquette

http://youtu.be/LNYZYSAJi98

Great physical profile for the pf Spot
6f10 with a 7f2 wingspan
Excellent rebounder on both ends of the floor,great offensive skill set with post scoring and shooting stroke,excellent ballhandling.

For me one of these 2 players would be a very good addition to our roster


Yeah Poetl is an intriguing prospect who right now is more in the late lottery discussion but is early so who knows as he could rise and he could fall. I wouldn't mind him as a guy that could compete with Vuc for the center spot. I don't think he is a PF. Ellenson doesn't interest me much as he doesn't look like a good pairing with Vuc. I think we need to look at big men that can play D really well as well as rebound. Now if we get a better defensive center instead of having Vuc then I would consider Ellenson again in the later part of the lottery(10-20).

Chiek Diallo is my favorite target right now as I see him ranked in the mid to late lottery most places. I think he would make a good prospect at PF. He offers more what we need at PF. Of course if we somehow luck into the lottery or if we end up in that area again then of course Labissiere is the guy I want or if we end up with the very first pick then Ben Simmons would be hard to pass up if he stays as the top spot but I would be just as happy with Labissiere as he is in contention for that top spot too. Jaylon Brown and Brandon Ingram don't really fit a need but might be too good to pass up if they are on the board when we pick as well. There are a lot of names out there and these are not the only guys I am watching. I have a wide list and I really d't have anyone completely excluded. But there is a lot left that has to happen before we can declare who we want or who is the favorite. Our needs are still unclear at this point, and we have no idea where we are drafting, and of course we have to wait and see how all these prospects fare in the coming months as their stock can rise and fall.
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Post#29 » by ralphie9898 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:58 pm

T-Cat wrote:AJ Hammons reminds me of an athletic Patrick Ewing!

Hammons is more of a second round guy right now. He has got a lot of climbing too do in order to get into even the first round discussion. Of course anything is possible but right now I would only consider him iwth one of our two second rounders(as we should have two good ones as we have our own and Portland's who should have a big downturn in wins after losing so much talent).
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#30 » by ralphie9898 » Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:09 pm

Patrick1978 wrote:
Immature Luigi wrote:not excited by this draft class in any way i hope we get to the playoffs this year

Are you serious?there are a lot of interesting prospects for the draft next year.jalen brown,ben simmons,dragan bender,brandon ingram,diamond stone,jamal murray,kris dunn,henry ellenson,jakob poeltl,cheokh diallo,malik pope,malik newman,troy williams,ec matthews.
Definitely a lot of interesting Players


This draft does have some interesting names but it still widely is believed to not be as good as past drafts. Of course time will tell but there are several stories that talked about how teams coveted draft picks this year and before as opposed to not being so interested in the 2016 class. Yeah there is still soem talent and people still think the top two to four will still be excellent prospects but they don't see the depth of talent that there has been in the past couple draft where there were more guys with serious potential to be stars or even superstars. Of course you never know as things can certainly change but this draft could be hailed as not as good as the last couple. But I understand not being interested right now. There is still a lot to get to before the 2016 draft. I for one love the draft(as I am an offseason junkie) and I am still questioning we are a playoff team. so I will definitely try to keep track of the prospects but I understand some not wanting to pay much attention to it.
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#31 » by Skin » Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:38 pm

Yeah, this draft looks lousy compared to past years.
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#32 » by T-Cat » Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:10 pm

ralphie9898 wrote:
T-Cat wrote:AJ Hammons reminds me of an athletic Patrick Ewing!

Hammons is more of a second round guy right now. He has got a lot of climbing too do in order to get into even the first round discussion. Of course anything is possible but right now I would only consider him iwth one of our two second rounders(as we should have two good ones as we have our own and Portland's who should have a big downturn in wins after losing so much talent).


I agree! 2016 draft has a few top prospects, but my favorite are Simmons and Labissiere!

I'm liking Labissiere a lot, he is a graceful athlete that wants a HOF one day.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTf1Vl18Q5A[/youtube]

I heard Hennigan was one of the GM's watching Simmons at the USA vs World recently. If you had a choice between the two who would you pick and why?
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#33 » by ralphie9898 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:34 pm

Immature Luigi wrote:
Patrick1978 wrote:
Immature Luigi wrote:indeed, interesting but i don't like the strength or depth of this upcoming class albeit since i'm focusing on the NBA season i've yet to take a long look but my initial impressions doesn't make my mouth water so to speak. Didn't say the draft class was bad i just said i wasn't excited and this might be a good year to NOT be in the lottery.

I think the draft next year is good to add some bench quality

I like Kris Dunn though and Poeltl, i saw some stuff on them last year good prospects. Poeltl actually did a decent job vs Okafor last season

I like Dunn but not for us. I think we are more than solid at the PG position. If anything I would look for a combo guard like Jamaal Murray or Malik Newman or even another foreign guy like Furkan Kormaz. I think another PG would just create a huge glut at the position. I prefer someone who can really score as both a shooter and as a guy that can drive the ball as well if a good big doesn't make sense for where we end up. I do like Poeltl but I don't think he is a PF so he would be in contention with Vuc and could possibly even make Vuc expendable.
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#34 » by ralphie9898 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:40 pm

Skin wrote:Yeah, this draft looks lousy compared to past years.

I wouldn't say lousy. I would say it isn't as good as the past two but I would say it is better than the 2013 draft. It still has several possible star players and has good depth prospects but it doesn't have the number of potential stars that the 2014 and 2015 classes have had. I would give it an average draft rating.
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#35 » by Patrick1978 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:45 pm

ralphie9898 wrote:
Immature Luigi wrote:
Patrick1978 wrote:I think the draft next year is good to add some bench quality

I like Kris Dunn though and Poeltl, i saw some stuff on them last year good prospects. Poeltl actually did a decent job vs Okafor last season

I like Dunn but not for us. I think we are more than solid at the PG position. If anything I would look for a combo guard like Jamaal Murray or Malik Newman or even another foreign guy like Furkan Kormaz. I think another PG would just create a huge glut at the position. I prefer someone who can really score as both a shooter and as a guy that can drive the ball as well if a good big doesn't make sense for where we end up. I do like Poeltl but I don't think he is a PF so he would be in contention with Vuc and could possibly even make Vuc expendable.

I think that poeltl is able to play power forward.he has great quickness and agility
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#36 » by Skin » Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:53 pm

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Skin wrote:Yeah, this draft looks lousy compared to past years.

I wouldn't say lousy. I would say it isn't as good as the past two but I would say it is better than the 2013 draft. It still has several possible star players and has good depth prospects but it doesn't have the number of potential stars that the 2014 and 2015 classes have had. I would give it an average draft rating.

For our needs it looks lousy. But yeah, a lot has to play out still.

The 2017 draft is the one that I'm psyched up for.
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#37 » by ralphie9898 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:05 am

Skin wrote:
ralphie9898 wrote:
Skin wrote:Yeah, this draft looks lousy compared to past years.

I wouldn't say lousy. I would say it isn't as good as the past two but I would say it is better than the 2013 draft. It still has several possible star players and has good depth prospects but it doesn't have the number of potential stars that the 2014 and 2015 classes have had. I would give it an average draft rating.

For our needs it looks lousy. But yeah, a lot has to play out still.

The 2017 draft is the one that I'm psyched up for.

Yeah the bigs may not be as plentiful but still there are some like Labiseire and Diallo and Poeltl as well as Damian Jones and there is a good big man from Lousiville who I can't remember at the moment who could be what we need scattered throughout this draft. So we still could find what we need out of this one.
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#38 » by ralphie9898 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 2:08 am

Patrick1978 wrote:
ralphie9898 wrote:
Immature Luigi wrote:I like Kris Dunn though and Poeltl, i saw some stuff on them last year good prospects. Poeltl actually did a decent job vs Okafor last season

I like Dunn but not for us. I think we are more than solid at the PG position. If anything I would look for a combo guard like Jamaal Murray or Malik Newman or even another foreign guy like Furkan Kormaz. I think another PG would just create a huge glut at the position. I prefer someone who can really score as both a shooter and as a guy that can drive the ball as well if a good big doesn't make sense for where we end up. I do like Poeltl but I don't think he is a PF so he would be in contention with Vuc and could possibly even make Vuc expendable.

I think that poeltl is able to play power forward.he has great quickness and agility

I think he has good quickness and agility for the center spot but at PF it becomes more average. He is best utilized as a center where you can take advantage of his ability to be a rim protector more. Because at PF he isn't often going to be near the rim. He is best suited for the center spot as he doesn't have that much range on his shot either so offensively it doesn't make sense either.
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#39 » by Hogified05 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:45 pm

I really really like that young Turkish kid. I am too lazy to look up his name right now. But from what little I have seen of him...his highlights and I watched a FIBA game he did well in...I thought I was looking at a taller Manu. Be really nice if we made the playoffs or just missed to nab him end of the lotto or mid 1st round. Let him develop a year or two overseas (he is super young). We have such a young team, let these young guys play out over these next couple years. Then decide who you want to keep and get rid of, then bring him over.
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Re: Draft 2016 

Post#40 » by Patrick1978 » Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:07 am

Hogified05 wrote:I really really like that young Turkish kid. I am too lazy to look up his name right now. But from what little I have seen of him...his highlights and I watched a FIBA game he did well in...I thought I was looking at a taller Manu. Be really nice if we made the playoffs or just missed to nab him end of the lotto or mid 1st round. Let him develop a year or two overseas (he is super young). We have such a young team, let these young guys play out over these next couple years. Then decide who you want to keep and get rid of, then bring him over.

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