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Re: Fournier just wanted over $10mil???? 

Post#101 » by MagicMadness » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:40 pm

Alright, break it up you two.

Keep the conversation civil (no more personal attacks), or I will do a 2-2 trade of you guys to the Philly board.
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Re: RE: Re: Fournier just wanted over $10mil???? 

Post#102 » by Skin » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:42 pm

ezzzp wrote:not trade, sign in free agency...DUH.

...and that was in response to a question asked about how the Magic could accelerate the rebuild with free agency this summer ....but that's basic reading comprehension so I see how you got it wrong

Looks like a trade idea, not a FA signing idea... Your suggestion. Own it. Nobody put those words in your mouth.

ezzzp wrote:I have been monitoring the Memphis situation as Mike Conley Jr. will be an unrestricted free agent this summer. He just turned 28 in October, so he should have at least 2-3 solid starter level years over his next contract. This would coincide nicely with Payton as he matures over that time and then takes over as Conley fades into a back up PG role. Conley is also a very good defender and known for his leadership skills and high BB IQ.

But why would he leave Memphis?

Their key players: M Gasol (turns 32 in Jan), C Lee (30 and UFA this summer), J Green (29 and UFA this summer), M Barnes (35), T Allen (34), Zbo (35), M Chalmers (29 and UFA this summer).

The age and uncertainty of that roster competing for anything over the next 4 years creates a very good opportunity for a team able to offer him a max deal and a winning future.

-or-

if Memphis looks like they are going to rebuild and there is a very good sense that he would resign w Magic after a trade...this would allow the Magic to add another high salary player (Terrence Jones :D ) and keep Conley and Fournier:

Oladipo + Watson + Napier for Conley Jr.

Conley Jr. | Fournier | Gordon | Jones | Vuc
+ Payton | Hezonja | Harris | Smith and-or Dedmon
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Re: Fournier just wanted over $10mil???? 

Post#103 » by Skin » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:45 pm

MagicMadness wrote:Alright, break it up you two.

Keep the conversation civil (no more personal attacks), or I will do a 2-2 trade of you guys to the Philly board.

Thank you.
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Re: Fournier just wanted over $10mil???? 

Post#104 » by OrlChamps2030 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:55 pm

MagicMadness wrote:Keep the conversation civil (no more personal attacks), or I will do a 2-2 trade of you guys to the Philly board.

all they would do is cut them immediately afterwards
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Re: RE: Re: Fournier just wanted over $10mil???? 

Post#105 » by ezzzp » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:00 pm

Skin wrote:Looks like a trade idea, not a FA signing idea... Your suggestion. Own it. Nobody put those words in your mouth.

ezzzp wrote:I have been monitoring the Memphis situation as Mike Conley Jr. will be an unrestricted free agent this summer. He just turned 28 in October, so he should have at least 2-3 solid starter level years over his next contract. This would coincide nicely with Payton as he matures over that time and then takes over as Conley fades into a back up PG role. Conley is also a very good defender and known for his leadership skills and high BB IQ.

But why would he leave Memphis?

Their key players: M Gasol (turns 32 in Jan), C Lee (30 and UFA this summer), J Green (29 and UFA this summer), M Barnes (35), T Allen (34), Zbo (35), M Chalmers (29 and UFA this summer).

The age and uncertainty of that roster competing for anything over the next 4 years creates a very good opportunity for a team able to offer him a max deal and a winning future.

-or-

if Memphis looks like they are going to rebuild and there is a very good sense that he would resign w Magic after a trade...this would allow the Magic to add another high salary player (Terrence Jones :D ) and keep Conley and Fournier:

Oladipo + Watson + Napier for Conley Jr.

Conley Jr. | Fournier | Gordon | Jones | Vuc
+ Payton | Hezonja | Harris | Smith and-or Dedmon


See, this is exactly why I have repeatedly ignored you begging me to speculate on "a plan" of how the rebuild could be accelerated...The minute I respond, you decontextualize it and drag it into another of your stupid whiny daily rants. Lesson learned.
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Re: RE: Re: Fournier just wanted over $10mil???? 

Post#106 » by Skin » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:20 pm

ezzzp wrote:
Skin wrote:Looks like a trade idea, not a FA signing idea... Your suggestion. Own it. Nobody put those words in your mouth.

ezzzp wrote:I have been monitoring the Memphis situation as Mike Conley Jr. will be an unrestricted free agent this summer. He just turned 28 in October, so he should have at least 2-3 solid starter level years over his next contract. This would coincide nicely with Payton as he matures over that time and then takes over as Conley fades into a back up PG role. Conley is also a very good defender and known for his leadership skills and high BB IQ.

But why would he leave Memphis?

Their key players: M Gasol (turns 32 in Jan), C Lee (30 and UFA this summer), J Green (29 and UFA this summer), M Barnes (35), T Allen (34), Zbo (35), M Chalmers (29 and UFA this summer).

The age and uncertainty of that roster competing for anything over the next 4 years creates a very good opportunity for a team able to offer him a max deal and a winning future.

-or-

if Memphis looks like they are going to rebuild and there is a very good sense that he would resign w Magic after a trade...this would allow the Magic to add another high salary player (Terrence Jones :D ) and keep Conley and Fournier:

Oladipo + Watson + Napier for Conley Jr.

Conley Jr. | Fournier | Gordon | Jones | Vuc
+ Payton | Hezonja | Harris | Smith and-or Dedmon


See, this is exactly why I have repeatedly ignored you begging me to speculate on "a plan" of how the rebuild could be accelerated...The minute I respond, you decontextualize it and drag it into another of your stupid whiny daily rants. Lesson learned.

Stupid... whiny... hmmm.... :roll:

You have a nice day ezzzp.
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Re: RE: Re: Fournier just wanted over $10mil???? 

Post#107 » by MagicMadness » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:30 pm

ezzzp wrote:See, this is exactly why I have repeatedly ignored you begging me to speculate on "a plan" of how the rebuild could be accelerated...The minute I respond, you decontextualize it and drag it into another of your stupid whiny daily rants. Lesson learned.


That post devolved into a personal attack at the end. You are a long-time poster here ezzzp, as is Skin. You both know the rules.

The answer to the thread title is 'Yes, Fournier just wanted over $10mil. Or maybe closer to $15mil." He's come back down to earth since the thread was started anyways, so whatever. The original discussion has gone off course.

Words and ideas are either being misread or used out of context at this point, and nothing positive is being accomplished. Let's move on.

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