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Would you support a big trade at this point?

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Would you support a big trade?

Yes, its time to make a move
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No, slow down and get a grip. Things might change
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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#41 » by Dgbarnes » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:50 pm

I wouldn't expect a trade anytime soon but come the offseason when we have a top 15 pick as well I could definitely see it.

Definitely keep Gordon and Payton and prefer to keep Mario and Oladipo. But otherwise we have to make a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 type of deal.
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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#42 » by Mannchild » Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:49 pm

I was a much bigger fan of Dipo before he got all pouty when sent to the bench. I dont mind him being unhappy with a bench role, but he acted like a passive aggressive pouty and disgruntled person in my opinion.
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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#43 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:13 am

tiderulz wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:EVERYONE IS ON THE BLOCK

EVERYONE CAN BE HAD IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT

WE DONT HAVE UNTOUCHABLES ON THIS TEAM


this is how i feel. We dont have an untouchable on the team. I would prefer not to move Elf, but even he isnt an immovable player.


Who in this league would you give up Elf or Gordon for? After compiling that list, look it over and ask yourself if the other teams would part with any of them. Thought so...

If the only upgrades to a given player are not available then he in turn becomes untouchable as the only calls we would receive do not interest us.
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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#44 » by tiderulz » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:16 am

MagicFan101 wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
Magic_Johnny12 wrote:EVERYONE IS ON THE BLOCK

EVERYONE CAN BE HAD IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT

WE DONT HAVE UNTOUCHABLES ON THIS TEAM


this is how i feel. We dont have an untouchable on the team. I would prefer not to move Elf, but even he isnt an immovable player.


Who in this league would you give up Elf or Gordon for? After compiling that list, look it over and ask yourself if the other teams would part with any of them. Thought so...

If the only upgrades to a given player are not available then he in turn becomes untouchable as the only calls we would receive do not interest us.


it has to be the right trade. dont just change the deck chairs. But to me, no one on this team is an absolute star we cant live without
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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#45 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:27 am

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tiderulz wrote:
this is how i feel. We dont have an untouchable on the team. I would prefer not to move Elf, but even he isnt an immovable player.


Who in this league would you give up Elf or Gordon for? After compiling that list, look it over and ask yourself if the other teams would part with any of them. Thought so...

If the only upgrades to a given player are not available then he in turn becomes untouchable as the only calls we would receive do not interest us.


it has to be the right trade. dont just change the deck chairs. But to me, no one on this team is an absolute star we cant live without


That wasn't my point. I'm trying to bring people back to reality. Would I trade Elf for Curry? Absolutely. Would I trade Gordon for Anthony Davis? Absolutely. So no, they are not untouchable but we wouldn't even be crazy enough to make those offers. Even if we are willing to make a trade what difference does it make if a worthy offer does not exist? So yes, if we restrict our thinking to only realistic deals then these two are untouchable. Unless you want an emotional disaster like Cousins, I don't see a super star talent available for the taking.
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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#46 » by Max Power » Sat Jan 23, 2016 2:50 am

I have to agree with the thought of there's no superstars we can trade for. I however see this team for what it is, a talented team with bad chemistry. At this point I'm a fan of changing this roster because it's not going anywhere but down. I honestly would only keep Oladipo, because he is a gamer and plays with fire, Vucevic because decent centers are rare, and Aaron Gordon due to his potential. Harris, Payton and Fournier could get us a player or picks that could be a difference maker, even if it isn't Kevin Durant. I've gotten to the point where I can't stand all 3 of those guys. Payton lost us that game vs Charlotte tonight


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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#47 » by trebone » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:27 pm

I want to see the starting lineup of

Elf
Vic
Harris
Gordon
Vuc

for real minutes before I would want to move anyone just yet, Fournier IMO is the odd man out
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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#48 » by KillMonger » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:40 pm

Guys that i would like to keep
Elf
Dipo
Hezonja
AG

Guys that i think are in limbo(50/50)
Vuc
Tobias
Jason Smith
C.J
Nicholson
Dedmon

Guy(s) that should be traded no question
FOURNIER
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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#49 » by glennathan » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:19 pm

So in the next 10 games for Orlando, they play
Celtics 2x
Hawks 2x
Spurs 2x
Clippers
Thunder
Grizzlies
Bucks

We are in a world of trouble this next stretch if we do not make some kind of adjustment. I really think that this team doesn't necessarily need a superstar but we need a legit pure shooting threat. I would be down for trading Fournier, Shabazz, and a 1st round pick if it meant we can get someone who shoots lights out. We have no one on this team that can constantly drop 22 - 26 on any given night.

I do not know of any specific player in mind just want someone on this team that can shoot all day long.
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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#50 » by Max Power » Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:35 pm

Unfortunately there aren't a lot of big scorers available on the trade market this year. No Dwight situations where the player/team dynamic is toxic to warrant a big mid season trade. Demarcus Cousins is the only one, but he's isn't the answer to the Magics problems.


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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#51 » by King Close » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:26 pm

Mannchild wrote:I was a much bigger fan of Dipo before he got all pouty when sent to the bench. I dont mind him being unhappy with a bench role, but he acted like a passive aggressive pouty and disgruntled person in my opinion.


Everyone on the team loves the guy, and ofcourse he was angry at him getting benched, there is literally not a single person who has ever played in the NBA that was happy when they got benched. Could you tell that 'Dipo was angry at the decision? Of course, but you can't blame the guy, started for the team for the most of his career, a new coach comes in and then decides to start his lover. He is out there producing at a very, very high level again (past 7 or so games), which is tough to do especially considering his circumstances of coming into the lineup playing PG, then an injury, etc etc.

But onto the thread: Yes, I will trade anyone, and everyone not named Victor, Elfrid, Aaron, and Mario. We need to get rid of all these softies on this team, Vooch finally decided to put his hands up when someone drives into the lane, and look what happened - he got 6 blocks. I would jump on a trade including Vooch, Tobias, and Evan because they have pretty good value. For who is the question - and it's up to Henny to fix this problem that he, and co have created.
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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#52 » by Mannchild » Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:43 pm

Imafoo1 wrote:
Mannchild wrote:I was a much bigger fan of Dipo before he got all pouty when sent to the bench. I dont mind him being unhappy with a bench role, but he acted like a passive aggressive pouty and disgruntled person in my opinion.


Everyone on the team loves the guy, and ofcourse he was angry at him getting benched, there is literally not a single person who has ever played in the NBA that was happy when they got benched. Could you tell that 'Dipo was angry at the decision? Of course, but you can't blame the guy, started for the team for the most of his career, a new coach comes in and then decides to start his lover. He is out there producing at a very, very high level again (past 7 or so games), which is tough to do especially considering his circumstances of coming into the lineup playing PG, then an injury, etc etc.


I feel like you either didnt read or comprehend what i said. i have zero problem with him being unhappy or angry to be on the bench, my problem was with his pouty/passive aggressive attitude.
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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#53 » by King Close » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:26 pm

Mannchild wrote:
Imafoo1 wrote:
Mannchild wrote:I was a much bigger fan of Dipo before he got all pouty when sent to the bench. I dont mind him being unhappy with a bench role, but he acted like a passive aggressive pouty and disgruntled person in my opinion.


Everyone on the team loves the guy, and ofcourse he was angry at him getting benched, there is literally not a single person who has ever played in the NBA that was happy when they got benched. Could you tell that 'Dipo was angry at the decision? Of course, but you can't blame the guy, started for the team for the most of his career, a new coach comes in and then decides to start his lover. He is out there producing at a very, very high level again (past 7 or so games), which is tough to do especially considering his circumstances of coming into the lineup playing PG, then an injury, etc etc.


I feel like you either didnt read or comprehend what i said. i have zero problem with him being unhappy or angry to be on the bench, my problem was with his pouty/passive aggressive attitude.


I don't recall him ever being pouty/ passive aggressive.
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Re: Would you support a big trade at this point? 

Post#54 » by TKainZero » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:52 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
MagicStarwipe wrote:
Nemesis21 wrote:

You mean Harris, Fournier and Frye.

No, Fournier and Vuc. But Harris and Frye can be included depending on what deals are out there.



I keep Vooch, need a defensive PF with him, not a stretch 4. Harris out, AG to the 3, bring in defensive PF.


A defensive PF that can be paired with a Offensive Center like Vuc is like a Unicorn.
But with most teams going stretch 4, they could find one.

But would Brandon bass or ed davis at PF be worth it?
I would rather Gordon/Harris at the PF next to a defensive anchor Center.
AG at the 3 creates another spot on the floor with negative shooting. (meaning the PG, SG, and SF would be negative shooters)
At PF, AG can be a plus shooting PF (he isn't yet, but is a better shooter than I thought he would be in the NBA) But his athleticism would be awesome, allowing you to have a player at SF that is flexible (could be a deadeye shooter, or lockdown defender)

Honestly, I'm not sure ANY player is untouchable on the magic in the right deal.
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