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Magician most likely to be traded

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What Magician is most likely to be traded (listed alphabetically)?

Evan Fournier
17
18%
Channing Frye
33
34%
Aaron Gordon
1
1%
Tobias Harris
38
39%
Mario Hezonja
2
2%
Victor Oladipo
1
1%
Elfrid Payton
1
1%
Jason Smith
1
1%
Nikola Vu?evi?
3
3%
 
Total votes: 97

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Re: Magician most likely to be traded 

Post#41 » by The_Watcher » Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:43 pm

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Re: Magician most likely to be traded 

Post#42 » by Daniel Lee » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:32 am

Howard Mass wrote:
drsd wrote:My thoughts: I see Frye as the most tradeable player, but I do not think that necessarily makes him the most likely to be traded. If the current use of Fournier at SF and Gordon at PF works for another couple games, then Frye becomes a key bench piece for the Magic's rotation, and makes both Oladipo and Fournier untradeable. What we are left with is Mr. Harris. For me Harris is the most traceable asset in that he has the smallest team-fit and can bring back the most return.

Still, I would love this in a larger package: Harris, Frye, Fournier, and two firsts for an awesome PF. That is my dream.

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I like everything about that minus the firsts.

Even though this team has enough talent, it's not good to deal draft picks.



Interesting read on how the Magic are misusing Tobias Harris. His lack of touches in pick-and-roll is puzzling http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2016/02/12/trading-tobias-
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Re: Magician most likely to be traded 

Post#43 » by axl_c_cool » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:43 pm

Daniel Lee wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:
drsd wrote:My thoughts: I see Frye as the most tradeable player, but I do not think that necessarily makes him the most likely to be traded. If the current use of Fournier at SF and Gordon at PF works for another couple games, then Frye becomes a key bench piece for the Magic's rotation, and makes both Oladipo and Fournier untradeable. What we are left with is Mr. Harris. For me Harris is the most traceable asset in that he has the smallest team-fit and can bring back the most return.

Still, I would love this in a larger package: Harris, Frye, Fournier, and two firsts for an awesome PF. That is my dream.

..


I like everything about that minus the firsts.

Even though this team has enough talent, it's not good to deal draft picks.



Interesting read on how the Magic are misusing Tobias Harris. His lack of touches in pick-and-roll is puzzling http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2016/02/12/trading-tobias-



We have our PF, I think a vet PG and possibly a draft pick for Harris + Fyre


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Re: Magician most likely to be traded 

Post#44 » by MoMM » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:23 pm

Daniel Lee wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:
drsd wrote:My thoughts: I see Frye as the most tradeable player, but I do not think that necessarily makes him the most likely to be traded. If the current use of Fournier at SF and Gordon at PF works for another couple games, then Frye becomes a key bench piece for the Magic's rotation, and makes both Oladipo and Fournier untradeable. What we are left with is Mr. Harris. For me Harris is the most traceable asset in that he has the smallest team-fit and can bring back the most return.

Still, I would love this in a larger package: Harris, Frye, Fournier, and two firsts for an awesome PF. That is my dream.

..


I like everything about that minus the firsts.

Even though this team has enough talent, it's not good to deal draft picks.



Interesting read on how the Magic are misusing Tobias Harris. His lack of touches in pick-and-roll is puzzling http://www.basketballanalyticsbook.com/2016/02/12/trading-tobias-

Cool article, basically the author says we should trade Vucevic for a defensive center and everything will be better.
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Re: Magician most likely to be traded 

Post#45 » by ezzzp » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:22 pm

MoMM wrote:
Cool article, basically the author says we should trade Vucevic for a defensive center and everything will be better.


LOL as if it where that easy. Hennigan should just go grab one of those at Walmart...cause you know mobile rim protectors that also are good roll-men are a dime a dozen.

If it where that simple Dewayne "hands of stone" Dedmon would be on the floor.

There are a plethora of really good defensive center's in the NBA and D-League - but only a very few have the foot speed, athleticism and agility to defend the rim and out beyond 10' - all without fouling out in 5 minutes. There are even less that posses that capacity and aren't a total liability on the offensive end, much less good effective roll-men (able to catch, finish or pass out, read defenses etc.)

I don't want to sound like I'm hating on Tobias, but is he even a capable ball handler in traffic? He has pretty limited floor awareness and passing ability. He is effective in line drive situations but I don't think he has that capacity to create in a crowded lane - which it will be - a lot. I think this author is just looking at numbers and not taking into consideration Harris' actual skill set
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Re: Magician most likely to be traded 

Post#46 » by drsd » Fri Feb 19, 2016 11:03 am

Player with most votes traded first. Player with second most votes traded second. Other player with significant votes still a Magician. Overall I take this that the Magic fan has a good vibe of the team progression.

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