So next move....

[ProfX]

Small, but needed:

Napier to Hou for Corey Brewer.
He can back up both wing spots, and is perfectly fine coming off the bench as a vet.
He'll teach the young guys about effort too.

I think Brewer is actually a great fit. Always liked his game. Ultimately we need a tier one shooting guard but i dont see any available. Maybe we can work a sign and trade..

[KillMonger]

We are bringing in Mahinmi. Mahinmi absolutely loves Vogel, is good friends and teammates with Fournier, and will have a perfect roll for him on our team. Imagine running a defensive line up with Gordon Ibaka and Mahinmi. That would be a top 5 defensive front court in the NBA. I could see something like 4 years/60 million offered to him and while that seems like a steep price to ask for, it makes Vuc expendable long term because we can give Ibaka 10-15mpg at the center position while Mahinmi plays 25-30. Then we can offer 2017 draft pick+ Lakers draft pick+ Vuc for someone like Avery Bradley who can play 1/2 and has similar skill set to George Hill who fit perfectly in Vogels system. This would give us many different possible line ups to run.

mahimi is not needed with ibaka here, we got rim protection already and we might still retain dedhands....mahinmi isn't in vuc's caliber, not on his best day and yet he makes vuc expendable? vuc has literally won games for us

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4KFl104YJg[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr3GJz7AVTI[/youtube]

All he does is put on that hard hat and work and doesn't complain or demand the ball plays within himself. You'll get 1 or 2 bad games from him then he's right back to giving you at least 18&8 every night even fournier isn't that consistent. I mean damn,some people don't even want to keep him as a super sub off the bench. They want to ship him off to replace him with players that are beneath him, i give up lol

[MagicStarwipe]

Doesn't demand the ball? He demanded the ball almost every time down last season. Many times he'd be pushed out so far by his defender trying to post up, but instead of just setting the screen for the ball handler, he'd continue to demand the ball. For a guy that at times looked like he wasn't giving any effort on D and then to come down the very next possession and ask for the ball... it was very annoying. But things are different now, so we may as well see how it all looks with a good coach on the sideline.

But anyway, we have to let these guys develop. Everybody is just losing patience now. We aren't contending for a title next season. AG and Payton don't need to be all world perimeter shooters next season. But they are still very good players. If they can not win you the 2017 NBA Championship, they can still win you games. We can get in the playoffs. Let them develop FFS.

[KillMonger]

Doesn't demand the ball? He demanded the ball almost every time down last season. Many times he'd be pushed out so far by his defender trying to post up, but instead of just setting the screen for the ball handler, he'd continue to demand the ball. For a guy that at times looked like he wasn't giving any effort on D and then to come down the very next possession and ask for the ball... it was very annoying. But things are different now, so we may as well see how it all looks with a good coach on the sideline.

But anyway, we have to let these guys develop. Everybody is just losing patience now. We aren't contending for a title next season. AG and Payton don't need to be all world perimeter shooters next season. But they are still very good players. If they can not win you the 2017 NBA Championship, they can still win you games. We can get in the playoffs. Let them develop FFS.

even though i watched every game i must of missed those instances, unless putting your hand up equals demanding the ball but that's neither here nor there. mahinmi though? we're talking a career 5 point 4 rebound 1 block player making vuc expendable...i'm open to trading vuc but it's gotta be for something worthwhile.

[Un4given]

Imho, we should give Vogel some time to evaluate our assets before making any further big moves so rim protector backup big and backup PG is all we need atm. Lin + Mahihmi would be nice fits, but I wouldn't be really mad even if we end up with something like Jennings/Augustin + Mozgov/Hibbert if we can get those on team friendly contracts as long that would mean extended minutes for Elf and more small ball time with Ibaka at center. Matching Fournier should be pretty sure thing now but we would still have enough space to make one max offer next summer.

I like lineup possibilities we would have, especially small ball of Ibaka/AG/Hezonja/Fournier/Elf and the "spacing unit" with Vooch/Ibaka/Fournier/Hezonja/Elf.


still, things could become pretty interesting if we decide to make huge development move with AG as our starting SF and Hezonja as our starting SG while letting Fournier go. That would probably mean that we should actually consider making some big consolidation long term moves. Chasing hard for Whiteside or Biyombo would make all the sense then, and would be interesting to see what we can get in return if we decide to shop Vooch sooner or later. Any ideas about what kind of improvement could package based on Vooch/elf/future protected first could bring us at PG spot?

[Airgordon00]

Eric Bledsoe could be a guy to look out for.

[ralphie9898]

You watch the videos that I've attached. Enjoy and get educated with basketball wisdom.

oooh yeah you tube highlights. Uh you need to look at the lowlights. like when he used a homophobic slur just this year to a ref. And yes he can create and he can pass the ball real well but he has lost a step there as well on defense so he isn't the same player he once was. He is still a headcase because he still is kind of a cancer and being with Sacramento didn't likely help that any. And he still is a bad shooter so no no no. And go and read all of the other guys who said no along with me and you might learn that some things change(like his athleticism) and some things stay the same(like him being not a great teammate or shooter). But no you tube highlight is going to make me think Rondo is even worth making a phone call to.

Try, it wont bite.
http://youtu.be/YGI-IEcZ8cI

Dude enough I watched ur you tube videos but they don't mean anything. Yes he broke things down well as i didn't call him an idiot. But he is not that good of a player anymore. He has lost a step or two due to injuries and age. He has never been a good shooter. yeah he can make a shot once in awhile but so can I but that doesn't mean I should get an NBA tryout. And Rondo still is a headache as a teammate. He simply is not that good of a player. I am done arguing with you on this. Go find someone else to annoy.

[ralphie9898]

Eric Bledsoe could be a guy to look out for.

No thanks. I would prefer guys who can shoot better.

[Incognito76]

Eric Bledsoe could be a guy to look out for.

I want Bledsoe on Magic he would be perfect. Only problem with him is that he misses alot of games. Maybe if we offered them AN and Lakers pick they bite since they have alot of guards.

[Airgordon00]

Eric Bledsoe could be a guy to look out for.

I want Bledsoe on Magic he would be perfect. Only problem with him is that he misses alot of games. Maybe if we offered them AN and Lakers pick they bite since they have alot of guards.

Yeah that is my only concern with him is he healthy. Yeah they have a ton of guards all from Kentucky. I would take a flyer on him. I remember when they were calling him mini Bron.