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Post#21 » by ralphie9898 » Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:06 am

Ohhwell8 wrote:Yeah, we'd struggle on offense, which is an issue we will already have unless we see some big steps from some of the guys.

We signed Ibaka to pair with Vuc, if we were going to sign a defense center we would have gotten a better offensive PF.

Ibaka is actually pretty good offensively. His offensive game often gets over-looked because of where he was but actually he can score and even shoot it fairly well from 3 point land. As for Whiteside while he may not have Vuc's shooting ability he is more athletic and can get to the basket and score at a good clip.
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Post#22 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:19 pm

tiderulz wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I don't even think Rob is even thinking of talking to Whitesides agent. They have plenty of other teams that will.


you could stop right there. You have no idea what Rob is doing, who he is talking to


You stop right there. That is why I at least said "I Don't Even Think!" in comparison to posters who just make statements. That means what I said is MY OPINION. 8-)
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Post#23 » by ThatFloridaDude » Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:52 pm

tiderulz wrote:the thing i can imagine is how bad that offense would be.

I Would love this or any defensive center, but the three remaining positions would have to be scorers. Elfrid I thik can be if he has the green light. Scott Skiles didnt give him the green light. James Berrego did though. The two and 3 Spots are up in the air.
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Post#24 » by Nightman » Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:03 pm

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If Henny entices him with some red velvet cake I'm pretty sure he'll sign here immediately.
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Post#25 » by tiderulz » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:34 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I don't even think Rob is even thinking of talking to Whitesides agent. They have plenty of other teams that will.


you could stop right there. You have no idea what Rob is doing, who he is talking to


You stop right there. That is why I at least said "I Don't Even Think!" in comparison to posters who just make statements. That means what I said is MY OPINION. 8-)


i will apologize. You throw so many blanket, absurd statements out, i actually missed the "i dont think" statement. And i cant believe you really dont think he is talking to agents.
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Post#26 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:41 pm

tiderulz wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
you could stop right there. You have no idea what Rob is doing, who he is talking to


You stop right there. That is why I at least said "I Don't Even Think!" in comparison to posters who just make statements. That means what I said is MY OPINION. 8-)


i will apologize. You throw so many blanket, absurd statements out, i actually missed the "i dont think" statement. And i cant believe you really dont think he is talking to agents.


I think Henny talks to all Agents, but I doubt he is talking to anyone about Whiteside now that he has Ibaka with about 30 other teams also talking to Whitesides agent.
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Post#27 » by OrlChamps2030 » Mon Jun 27, 2016 8:31 pm

tiderulz wrote:the thing i can imagine is how bad that offense would be.


You're acting like Whiteside is a scrub on offense. He's not. He is a great finisher around the rim and put up 17 ppg per 36 and a lot of people thought Miami should have gotten him more involved.
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Post#28 » by tiderulz » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:10 am

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tiderulz wrote:the thing i can imagine is how bad that offense would be.


You're acting like Whiteside is a scrub on offense. He's not. He is a great finisher around the rim and put up 17 ppg per 36 and a lot of people thought Miami should have gotten him more involved.


I'm talking about the combination of all of them, not just about Whiteside.
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Post#29 » by Skin » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:27 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
You stop right there. That is why I at least said "I Don't Even Think!" in comparison to posters who just make statements. That means what I said is MY OPINION. 8-)


i will apologize. You throw so many blanket, absurd statements out, i actually missed the "i dont think" statement. And i cant believe you really dont think he is talking to agents.


I think Henny talks to all Agents, but I doubt he is talking to anyone about Whiteside now that he has Ibaka with about 30 other teams also talking to Whitesides agent.

If people think Ibaka is going to solve all of our frontcourt defense problems by himself, they are in for a rude awakening.

Think OKC vs MIA Finals... Lebron and Wade had free reign in terrorizing their way to the basket. Ibaka could guard Bosh from the stretch 4 spot, but that left the inside wide open where Perkins was constantly abused. You need a defensive C to win championships against Lebron.

Said it before the trade... Vuc is a great player to bring off the bench. The same thought remains. If we can't get Whiteside, then Horford needs to be chased. I like Boban too. Mahinmi seems like a last resort FA. If not, we need to trade for a post defender. Sounds like Tyson Chandler could be seeking a buy out. Wouldn't mind chasing him. He still produced last season.
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Post#30 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:00 am

Skin wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
i will apologize. You throw so many blanket, absurd statements out, i actually missed the "i dont think" statement. And i cant believe you really dont think he is talking to agents.


I think Henny talks to all Agents, but I doubt he is talking to anyone about Whiteside now that he has Ibaka with about 30 other teams also talking to Whitesides agent.

If people think Ibaka is going to solve all of our frontcourt defense problems by himself, they are in for a rude awakening.

Think OKC vs MIA Finals... Lebron and Wade had free reign in terrorizing their way to the basket. Ibaka could guard Bosh from the stretch 4 spot, but that left the inside wide open where Perkins was constantly abused. You need a defensive C to win championships against Lebron.

Said it before the trade... Vuc is a great player to bring off the bench. The same thought remains. If we can't get Whiteside, then Horford needs to be chased. I like Boban too. Mahinmi seems like a last resort FA. If not, we need to trade for a post defender. Sounds like Tyson Chandler could be seeking a buy out. Wouldn't mind chasing him. He still produced last season.


I think Horfords clan will be broached, not Whitesides. Chemistry and veteran leadership are what Henny seeks. Whiteside is not the type of player in attittude and chemistry this team needs. Horford, DeRozen and Conley are warriors what this team needs. 8-)
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Re: Whiteside + Ibaka? 

Post#31 » by Skin » Tue Jun 28, 2016 3:46 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:
Skin wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
I think Henny talks to all Agents, but I doubt he is talking to anyone about Whiteside now that he has Ibaka with about 30 other teams also talking to Whitesides agent.

If people think Ibaka is going to solve all of our frontcourt defense problems by himself, they are in for a rude awakening.

Think OKC vs MIA Finals... Lebron and Wade had free reign in terrorizing their way to the basket. Ibaka could guard Bosh from the stretch 4 spot, but that left the inside wide open where Perkins was constantly abused. You need a defensive C to win championships against Lebron.

Said it before the trade... Vuc is a great player to bring off the bench. The same thought remains. If we can't get Whiteside, then Horford needs to be chased. I like Boban too. Mahinmi seems like a last resort FA. If not, we need to trade for a post defender. Sounds like Tyson Chandler could be seeking a buy out. Wouldn't mind chasing him. He still produced last season.


I think Horfords clan will be broached, not Whitesides. Chemistry and veteran leadership are what Henny seeks. Whiteside is not the type of player in attittude and chemistry this team needs. Horford, DeRozen and Conley are warriors what this team needs. 8-)

What did Whiteside ever do that makes him a bad egg?
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Re: Whiteside + Ibaka? 

Post#32 » by BadMofoPimp » Tue Jun 28, 2016 12:02 pm

Skin wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
Skin wrote:If people think Ibaka is going to solve all of our frontcourt defense problems by himself, they are in for a rude awakening.

Think OKC vs MIA Finals... Lebron and Wade had free reign in terrorizing their way to the basket. Ibaka could guard Bosh from the stretch 4 spot, but that left the inside wide open where Perkins was constantly abused. You need a defensive C to win championships against Lebron.

Said it before the trade... Vuc is a great player to bring off the bench. The same thought remains. If we can't get Whiteside, then Horford needs to be chased. I like Boban too. Mahinmi seems like a last resort FA. If not, we need to trade for a post defender. Sounds like Tyson Chandler could be seeking a buy out. Wouldn't mind chasing him. He still produced last season.


I think Horfords clan will be broached, not Whitesides. Chemistry and veteran leadership are what Henny seeks. Whiteside is not the type of player in attittude and chemistry this team needs. Horford, DeRozen and Conley are warriors what this team needs. 8-)

What did Whiteside ever do that makes him a bad egg?


I recommend you visit the Heat board and read their weekly log of crazy antics. Dude probably talks about how great he is a couple times a week. He is not the team player people make him out to be chemistry wise. That is why he has alienated himself from the entire league prior to the Heat signing him. How can anyone not notice? Riley being a disciplinarian type of GM that commands respect has been able to control him. Wait and see if he goes elsewhere with a weak minded GM. Henny seems to want high character players which Whiteside seems to be the opposite of. Henny won't even waste his time competing with 30 other teams.

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