Vucevic's trade value

[Daboone696]

Unless we are talking about Russell Westbrook, please stop the Vuc trade talk.

Ibaka / Vuc are our starting front court with BB as our super sub off the bench. This is a fantastic rotation.

Love the amount of confidence you and many on this board have with zero evidence.

[MagicFan101]

Unless we are talking about Russell Westbrook, please stop the Vuc trade talk.

Ibaka / Vuc are our starting front court with BB as our super sub off the bench. This is a fantastic rotation.

Love the amount of confidence you and many on this board have with zero evidence.

Sit back and learn kid.

[Nemesis21]

Vucvic to Lakers for D'Angelo Russell straight up.

PG: Russell
SG: Fournier
SF: Gordon
PF: Ibaka
C: Biyombo

DJ Augustin
Mario Hezonja
Jeff Green
Jodie Meeks
Elfrid Payton
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[shmarc02]

I have a feeling that we have a deal with the Blazers in the bag which includes McCollum and Vucevic.

Hopefully it is Watson/Vooch <-> McCollum

- We have to many point guards and gave DJ a decent contract alltought CJ Watson was the better player the last years before his injury.
- Biyombo will not sign with us to be a backup or to play 20 minutes. He had a market so I bet he asked for minutens / starting job in conersations.
- Biyombo and Vooch cannot coexist on the court. Whats the solution? 24 Minutens for both of them? Not going to happen.
- It would be stupid to not run a Gordon/Ibaka Lineup which means Ibaka will be our primary backup on the five.
- We need scoring on positions 1 - 3. Only Fournier is a proven scorer. With Elf and Biyombo two starters can't shoot - with Gordon in our SL we will have problems to strech the floor.

- Portland was obv lookig for a starting center but never made a stong push. just checking the market (gasol, howard...)
- they just signed another (primary) ballhandler in Evan Turner. off-the-ball-game? nope! Lillard, McCollum and Turner ist too much ballhandling. Portland told Turner that he will be a starter. to me that doesn't sound linke a good fit.
- trade works capwise.

I am affraid they will ask for Mario but I would do a Watson/Vooch for McCollum Trade.

I think a trade like this could be executed after the end of the moratorium.

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

How do you want to want to trade a proven scorer and rebounder for a kid that we don't even know is good?

You say that but the same argument could be made if Somebody offered vuc for the first overall pick, and virtually everybody would say vuc isn't worth that

[Def Swami]

How do you want to want to trade a proven scorer and rebounder for a kid that we don't even know is good?

You say that but the same argument could be made if Somebody offered vuc for the first overall pick, and virtually everybody would say vuc isn't worth that

No it couldn't. Drafts are different. Want to trade Vucevic for any of the players in the top 5 of the 2013 NBA Draft? End up with Anthony Bennett?? No one knows if Russell will make it in the league. He's not a sure-fire, can't miss all-star like Towns or Simmons.

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

How do you want to want to trade a proven scorer and rebounder for a kid that we don't even know is good?

You say that but the same argument could be made if Somebody offered vuc for the first overall pick, and virtually everybody would say vuc isn't worth that

No it couldn't. Drafts are different. Want to trade Vucevic for any of the players in the top 5 of the 2013 NBA Draft? End up with Anthony Bennett?? No one knows if Russell will make it in the league. He's not a sure-fire, can't miss all-star like Towns or Simmons.

He has been in the league one year. I'm just saying if we are looking at vucevics trade value lower your expectations a bit. I would bet if you asked anybody that isn't a magic fan they probably think that we would be getting the better end of the deal. You aren't getting a superstar for just vuc, or even an all star. You either trade for somebody that has potential to be end up better but is currently worse, or you trade for a middle of the road player which wouldn't really be worth it

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[BadMofoPimp]

I have a feeling that we have a deal with the Blazers in the bag which includes McCollum and Vucevic.

Hopefully it is Watson/Vooch <-> McCollum

- We have to many point guards and gave DJ a decent contract alltought CJ Watson was the better player the last years before his injury.
- Biyombo will not sign with us to be a backup or to play 20 minutes. He had a market so I bet he asked for minutens / starting job in conersations.
- Biyombo and Vooch cannot coexist on the court. Whats the solution? 24 Minutens for both of them? Not going to happen.
- It would be stupid to not run a Gordon/Ibaka Lineup which means Ibaka will be our primary backup on the five.
- We need scoring on positions 1 - 3. Only Fournier is a proven scorer. With Elf and Biyombo two starters can't shoot - with Gordon in our SL we will have problems to strech the floor.

- Portland was obv lookig for a starting center but never made a stong push. just checking the market (gasol, howard...)
- they just signed another (primary) ballhandler in Evan Turner. off-the-ball-game? nope! Lillard, McCollum and Turner ist too much ballhandling. Portland told Turner that he will be a starter. to me that doesn't sound linke a good fit.
- trade works capwise.

I am affraid they will ask for Mario but I would do a Watson/Vooch for McCollum Trade.

I think a trade like this could be executed after the end of the moratorium.

Problem is Biyombo has only started a handful of games his entire career and was a backup for most of last season outside of when Valenciunis was injured and one series of the Playoffs where he had breakout games which earned him that contract. If he didn't play well in the Playoffs, he wouldn't even gotten a $10 mil contract. Hornets let him walk for free and Toronto was afraid to give him much as well. He has low BBIQ and absolutely not a shred of offensive ability outside of great athletics, solid defense, grab mad rebounds, intensity and ability to block shots. He does tend to get into Foul trouble very easily and many games will struggle to reach 30mpg. Vooch will be sorely needed as trading away a borderline All-Star center just because the team signed a questionable young commodity then hand the keys to shop over to would be crazy unless the Magic have a solid Backup Center that can handle big minutes when Biyombo is in foul trouble or is hurting the offense.

[Def Swami]

You say that but the same argument could be made if Somebody offered vuc for the first overall pick, and virtually everybody would say vuc isn't worth that

No it couldn't. Drafts are different. Want to trade Vucevic for any of the players in the top 5 of the 2013 NBA Draft? End up with Anthony Bennett?? No one knows if Russell will make it in the league. He's not a sure-fire, can't miss all-star like Towns or Simmons.

He has been in the league one year. I'm just saying if we are looking at vucevics trade value lower your expectations a bit. I would bet if you asked anybody that isn't a magic fan they probably think that we would be getting the better end of the deal. You aren't getting a superstar for just vuc, or even an all star. You either trade for somebody that has potential to be end up better but is currently worse, or you trade for a middle of the road player which wouldn't really be worth it

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My point is why trade him at all unless you're getting an all-star talent or potential? He's more valuable to us as a player than a trade asset. We're trying to win games and we need scoring and we finally just found his A-1 complement. There's no reason to offer him up for a kid who may not even be better than Payton. It doesn't help us win games next year. I fully understand his trade value, which is why it makes little sense to trade him unless you package him for an upgrade to the roster.

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

No it couldn't. Drafts are different. Want to trade Vucevic for any of the players in the top 5 of the 2013 NBA Draft? End up with Anthony Bennett?? No one knows if Russell will make it in the league. He's not a sure-fire, can't miss all-star like Towns or Simmons.

He has been in the league one year. I'm just saying if we are looking at vucevics trade value lower your expectations a bit. I would bet if you asked anybody that isn't a magic fan they probably think that we would be getting the better end of the deal. You aren't getting a superstar for just vuc, or even an all star. You either trade for somebody that has potential to be end up better but is currently worse, or you trade for a middle of the road player which wouldn't really be worth it

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My point is why trade him at all unless you're getting an all-star talent or potential? He's more valuable to us as a player than a trade asset. We're trying to win games and we need scoring and we finally just found his A-1 complement. There's no reason to offer him up for a kid who may not even be better than Payton. It doesn't help us win games next year. I fully understand his trade value, which is why it makes little sense to trade him unless you package him for an upgrade to the roster.

The thread is about vucs trade value not the question of whether we should trade him or not. Personally I think we should give it time to see how this team plays together first

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