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Re: Positive or Negative and Why 

Post#101 » by OrlandoDream » Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:17 am


To be honest, our Twitter fans are amongst some of the biggest morons on all of social media. These are guy who were upset we hired Vogel instead of Mark Jackson smh
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Re: Positive or Negative and Why 

Post#102 » by Jiwol » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:10 am

OrlandoDream wrote:

To be honest, our Twitter fans are amongst some of the biggest morons on all of social media. These are guy who were upset we hired Vogel instead of Mark Jackson smh


T-Dot Keezys and KingRobbs in abundance :banghead:
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Re: Positive or Negative and Why 

Post#103 » by KingRobb02 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:14 am

eyriq wrote:I think Vegas is going to project us to win around 40.5 games this season.

That might be high considering the national coverage we've been getting. The line probably settles around 37.5
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Post#104 » by eyriq » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:05 pm

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eyriq wrote:I think Vegas is going to project us to win around 40.5 games this season.

That might be high considering the national coverage we've been getting. The line probably settles around 37.5


Are the national hype machine and Vegas lines correlated? 37.5 seems like an easy over looking at PER and RPM.
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Re: Re: Positive or Negative and Why 

Post#105 » by KingRobb02 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:14 pm

eyriq wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:
eyriq wrote:I think Vegas is going to project us to win around 40.5 games this season.

That might be high considering the national coverage we've been getting. The line probably settles around 37.5


Are the national hype machine and Vegas lines correlated? 37.5 seems like an easy over looking at PER and RPM.

Well yeah. Vegas will set the line where they can get the most action. If we won 35 last year, and people nationally hate our summer, I can only assume they won't expect us to be 5 wins better.

PER and RPM aren't really good looks. The better way would be to add up Win Shares or Wins Produced or VORP, but without accurate minute projections it won't really help at this point. I tried guessing, but at this point I can't tell if Green will play 15 minutes or 25, stuff like that. Plus I still don't think this is our opening day roster.
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Re: Positive or Negative and Why 

Post#106 » by wise1-2 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:20 pm


Do you remember when Warriors fans boo'd their owner just a few years ago?
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Re: Positive or Negative and Why 

Post#107 » by KingRobb02 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:25 pm

wise1-2 wrote:

Do you remember when Warriors fans boo'd their owner just a few years ago?

Fans had every right to boo. That was the year the Warriors were blatantly tanking to keep their pick. Guys like Charles Jenkins and Jeremy tyler were starting games for them.
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Post#108 » by eyriq » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:27 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:That might be high considering the national coverage we've been getting. The line probably settles around 37.5


Are the national hype machine and Vegas lines correlated? 37.5 seems like an easy over looking at PER and RPM.

Well yeah. Vegas will set the line where they can get the most action. If we won 35 last year, and people nationally hate our summer, I can only assume they won't expect us to be 5 wins better.

PER and RPM aren't really good looks. The better way would be to add up Win Shares or Wins Produced or VORP, but without accurate minute projections it won't really help at this point. I tried guessing, but at this point I can't tell if Green will play 15 minutes or 25, stuff like that. Plus I still don't think this is our opening day roster.

You can convert per and rpm into VoRP
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Re: Positive or Negative and Why 

Post#109 » by wise1-2 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:30 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
wise1-2 wrote:

Do you remember when Warriors fans boo'd their owner just a few years ago?

Fans had every right to boo. That was the year the Warriors were blatantly tanking to keep their pick. Guys like Charles Jenkins and Jeremy tyler were starting games for them.

And they were upset they traded Monta away. It just goes to show you fans don't always know what's best for the team.
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Post#110 » by KingRobb02 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:31 pm

eyriq wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
Are the national hype machine and Vegas lines correlated? 37.5 seems like an easy over looking at PER and RPM.

Well yeah. Vegas will set the line where they can get the most action. If we won 35 last year, and people nationally hate our summer, I can only assume they won't expect us to be 5 wins better.

PER and RPM aren't really good looks. The better way would be to add up Win Shares or Wins Produced or VORP, but without accurate minute projections it won't really help at this point. I tried guessing, but at this point I can't tell if Green will play 15 minutes or 25, stuff like that. Plus I still don't think this is our opening day roster.

You can convert per and rpm into VoRP

My mistake. I meant PoP not VoRP
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Re: Positive or Negative and Why 

Post#111 » by KingRobb02 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 3:32 pm

wise1-2 wrote:
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wise1-2 wrote:Do you remember when Warriors fans boo'd their owner just a few years ago?

Fans had every right to boo. That was the year the Warriors were blatantly tanking to keep their pick. Guys like Charles Jenkins and Jeremy tyler were starting games for them.

And they were upset they traded Monta away. It just goes to show you fans don't always know what's best for the team.

You don't have to convince me that fans don't know what's best. It's evident.
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Re: Re: Positive or Negative and Why 

Post#112 » by npiper17 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:48 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:That might be high considering the national coverage we've been getting. The line probably settles around 37.5


Are the national hype machine and Vegas lines correlated? 37.5 seems like an easy over looking at PER and RPM.

Well yeah. Vegas will set the line where they can get the most action. If we won 35 last year, and people nationally hate our summer, I can only assume they won't expect us to be 5 wins better.

PER and RPM aren't really good looks. The better way would be to add up Win Shares or Wins Produced or VORP, but without accurate minute projections it won't really help at this point. I tried guessing, but at this point I can't tell if Green will play 15 minutes or 25, stuff like that. Plus I still don't think this is our opening day roster.


Now this is interesting.

What move / moves do you see or would like to see?
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Re: Re: Positive or Negative and Why 

Post#113 » by KingRobb02 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 5:56 pm

npiper17 wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:
eyriq wrote:
Are the national hype machine and Vegas lines correlated? 37.5 seems like an easy over looking at PER and RPM.

Well yeah. Vegas will set the line where they can get the most action. If we won 35 last year, and people nationally hate our summer, I can only assume they won't expect us to be 5 wins better.

PER and RPM aren't really good looks. The better way would be to add up Win Shares or Wins Produced or VORP, but without accurate minute projections it won't really help at this point. I tried guessing, but at this point I can't tell if Green will play 15 minutes or 25, stuff like that. Plus I still don't think this is our opening day roster.


Now this is interesting.

What move / moves do you see or would like to see?

Don't know. But we have a surplus of bigs and need help on the wings.
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Re: Re: Positive or Negative and Why 

Post#114 » by npiper17 » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:16 pm

KingRobb02 wrote:
npiper17 wrote:
KingRobb02 wrote:Well yeah. Vegas will set the line where they can get the most action. If we won 35 last year, and people nationally hate our summer, I can only assume they won't expect us to be 5 wins better.

PER and RPM aren't really good looks. The better way would be to add up Win Shares or Wins Produced or VORP, but without accurate minute projections it won't really help at this point. I tried guessing, but at this point I can't tell if Green will play 15 minutes or 25, stuff like that. Plus I still don't think this is our opening day roster.


Now this is interesting.

What move / moves do you see or would like to see?

Don't know. But we have a surplus of bigs and need help on the wings.


There's been talk of something with Phoenix but they won't want Vucevic if they have Len. From the Magic's perspective, Bledsoe comes with injury worries and Knight is not someone you invest your long term future in.

Rudy Gay? Not a 2 and doesn't address the need for shooting.

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