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Clown Talk: Hennigan interview with Robbins

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Re: Clown Talk: Hennigan interview with Robbins 

Post#181 » by PennytoShaq » Wed Feb 1, 2017 6:39 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:None of you fools can see more than an inch in front of your face can you?

Why do you continue to bitch about how high our payroll is? A significant portion of this payroll is in expiring contracts which was BY DESIGN! We are only on the hook for $67M next season. We can resign players, we can attack free agency, we can trade some of these contracts to less fortunate teams if a good option comes along.

Henny saw that neither Harris nor Dipo was a franchise changer and made moves to give us options and flexibility. This is exactly what the strategy should be during a rebuild. Don't lock yourself into the wrong players.


A lot of people honestly are just ignorant to these obvious things, but they feel the need to complain anyway.
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Re: Clown Talk: Hennigan interview with Robbins 

Post#182 » by EAS Law » Wed Feb 1, 2017 8:17 pm

NEM wrote:
EAS Law wrote:
Bensational wrote:
Dude your own clown opinion isn't worth the toilet paper Hennigan wipes his ass with.

When the Ibaka trade was made, you were happy about it. When the team started poorly, you panicked and called for Hennigan's head. When the team played well, you jumped on the bandwagon and praised them, saying we could be good. When the team fell off again, you started beating your chest about how you called it first back in October.

You're just a reactionary little clown. Don't act like you're all knowing, because you're probably one win streak away from saying we've got a good team again.

99% of the board=the same 5 or 6 posters that expected us to be back in the ECF in 4.5 seasons... come on Ben, you know that... math and all that.


Not ECF... just what we were told would happen by Hennigan himself: a playoff team. I apologize for expecting to see improvement after 5 years of failure. How crazy and unrealistic of us "5-6 posters"

:lol:

I have come to realize that it's counterproductive to "argue" with people that ultimately want the same things I want for the team.

I disagree that we need to fire Hennigan ASAP, but I do agree that we have been fed this "playoffs or bust" thing a few times without any tangible indication that it's even that close.

I don't think that's Hennigan's fault entirely, but I am also antsy as a fan to see he team be consistent if not respected.

We just need to be patient really and at this point, accept that we need to take a step back to go forward later. I believe we can do that with Hennigan. Dipo, Harris, Harkless, O'Quinn--none of those guys were going to make us any better than we are right now respectively or collectively.

At this point, what is undisputed is that we aren't an attractive destination for FA, and that is a matter of several discussions--one primarily being that the Super Team is it in today's NBA and when you factor even 3 or 4 Super teams beating around, you're talking the top 9-12 players on the league at the top.

What do we do with that?
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Re: Clown Talk: Hennigan interview with Robbins 

Post#183 » by cvMagic » Wed Feb 1, 2017 8:56 pm

The problem with the Magic is simple and never really reported on. the owner is old as hell. Like death's doorstep old. Which makes his desperate. He's never won a chip and is desperate. Then, to make matters worse, he has continuously employed Martins as the head of the organization -a man who would easil;y make any top ten list for most inept and back-stabbing personnel man in the NBA.

That is a horrible combination. Horrible.

They are desperate for a chip and desperate for fans. Rewind this team 14 months ago and it is one of the most promising young teams in the NBA with numerous assets and flexibility.

NOW - there is literally - and I mean literally - ZERO hope of this team contending without completely bottoming out again and getting lucky in the lottery. They have zero hope and are destroying the value of all of their key assets by either playing them out of position or not playing them at all.

Hennigan is overmatched. Period. Why?
Because he is either making all of these horrible decisions or has no backbone to prevent them from happening. So... he's either inept or too worried about appeasing the boss and keeping his job than actually building a winner. It's one or the other (maybe both), but there is zero scenario in which Hennigan isn't fallible on one of those points.

This team has literally taken Oladipo, Tobias Harris, Harkless, Sabonis, Dedmon, etc., etc., etc., and turned it into ZERO hope for the future. Does anyone know how hard that is?

Add to that the complete mishandling of Gordon and Herzonja and the complete overestimation of Peyton and just... wow.

It is so very hard to be in such an abysmal position as the Magic are right now.

There is hope that they can get something of value for Ibaka. But unless thi team can turn him into a lottery pick this summer... anything they add is going to be more non-All Stars who keep the team mired in their hopeless situation of continuously drafting after all the potential superstars are long gone.

If this team truly wanted to be great - they would trade every veteran they could to acquire lottery picks THIS year. That is an EXTREMELY difficult thing to do as the types of teams willing to take on a veteran or an expiring are usually NOT involved in the lottery. There is a chance with Boston - but Ainge is so much smarter than anyone Orlando has in the front office - that anything less than a complete fleecing by Boston would shock me.

Anyhow, get what they can for Ibaka and the other (why the hell did they sign these guys) vetrans and immediately put Gordon at the 4 and Herzonja in the rotation. Play Peyton, Fournier, Herzonja, Gordon, and Vucevic as many minutes as humanly possible together and REALLY see what they have on hand. Then, hope with everything they've got that some/all start to show the real promise we all hoped they had.

Then take the obvious lottery selection the Magic will have with the hopes of one additional one they were able to pick up dealing the pointless veterans on the roster and pray to whatever deity necessary to get one of them to crack the top 3.

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