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Poll: Is Orlando going to make this season's playoffs?

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Is Orlando going to make this season's playoffs?

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Re: Poll: Is Orlando going to make this season's playoffs? 

Post#161 » by erod009 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:57 pm

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erod009 wrote:Aaron Gordon is a top 30 starting SF .....


The 30th SF in the league is by definition the league's worst starter. There are only 30 teams, after all. There are probably 5 bench SFs better than the league's worst starter, so such a player is barely top-40 at the position.

This means, for example, Robert Covington-Sixers is better than Gordon; Bojan Bogdanović-Nets is better than Gordon; T.J. Warren-Suns is better than Gordon; Jae Crowder-Celts is better than Gordon; Al-Farouq Aminu-Blazers is better than Gordon; Andre Roberson-Thunder is better than Gordon. I cannot accept that Gordon is the worst SF starter in the league. I just cannot.

It was a figure of speech, but on the other hand I believe Bojan, TJ, Crowder and Aminu are better small forwards than AG.
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Re: Poll: Is Orlando going to make this season's playoffs? 

Post#162 » by rusoopE » Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:03 pm

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Same thing I'm thinking. Ibaka and Gordon in the starting lineup together is redundant.

Different set of skills, but in the beginning folks used to say the same thing with Hedo and Shard in the line up. Two 6'10 tweeners on the floor at the same time who can't defend.

It's an untraditional feel, but that doesn't mean we won't have advantages to work with.


Shard was one of the better defenders in the NBA in 2009.

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Re: Poll: Is Orlando going to make this season's playoffs? 

Post#163 » by Skin » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:00 pm

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simon24 wrote:
Same thing I'm thinking. Ibaka and Gordon in the starting lineup together is redundant.

Different set of skills, but in the beginning folks used to say the same thing with Hedo and Shard in the line up. Two 6'10 tweeners on the floor at the same time who can't defend.

It's an untraditional feel, but that doesn't mean we won't have advantages to work with.


What the hell? Hedo and Rashard were 2 COMPLETELY different players offensively.

Hedo was one of the primary playmakers on the perimeter. Along with the fact that he was probably the best shot creator on the team and the unquestioned go-to guy. Lewis's role was primarily spotting up while using his post game from time-to-time. Those guys even though tweeners, were completely 2 different players.

Though I do agree that Gordon and Ibaka have different styles of play (Like Ibaka blocks shots, and Gordon is more amorphous defender and is a better passer). What they do on the court is pretty similar. High energy guys, with little offensive inclination, whose primary strengths are on the defensive end.

You must have missed the part that I just bolded and underlined for you.

Eventually, Shard settled into our PF. But originally that wasn't the clear cut case. The way we used Shard wasn't the way the Sonics used him. ...and Hedo wasn't playing Point Forward for us before Shard got here either. It was definitely questionable how things were going to work because they played the same position. We really didn't see too much of that 4 out, 1 in scheme in the NBA. At the time, we were pioneering it. It was kind of morphed into fruition... with us trying to play our best 5 guys at the same time.... and being innovative in doing so brought us success.

Here's another case of us being innovative, so we shall see what happens. Nobody else in the NBA has the kind of design that we have. Our size, athleticism, and defensive capabilities at the 3, 4, 5 is totally unique.
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Re: Poll: Is Orlando going to make this season's playoffs? 

Post#164 » by Blue_and_Whte » Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:32 pm

Skin wrote:
JF5 wrote:
Skin wrote:Different set of skills, but in the beginning folks used to say the same thing with Hedo and Shard in the line up. Two 6'10 tweeners on the floor at the same time who can't defend.

It's an untraditional feel, but that doesn't mean we won't have advantages to work with.


What the hell? Hedo and Rashard were 2 COMPLETELY different players offensively.

Hedo was one of the primary playmakers on the perimeter. Along with the fact that he was probably the best shot creator on the team and the unquestioned go-to guy. Lewis's role was primarily spotting up while using his post game from time-to-time. Those guys even though tweeners, were completely 2 different players.

Though I do agree that Gordon and Ibaka have different styles of play (Like Ibaka blocks shots, and Gordon is more amorphous defender and is a better passer). What they do on the court is pretty similar. High energy guys, with little offensive inclination, whose primary strengths are on the defensive end.

You must have missed the part that I just bolded and underlined for you.

Eventually, Shard settled into our PF. But originally that wasn't the clear cut case. The way we used Shard wasn't the way the Sonics used him. ...and Hedo wasn't playing Point Forward for us before Shard got here either. It was definitely questionable how things were going to work because they played the same position. We really didn't see too much of that 4 out, 1 in scheme in the NBA. At the time, we were pioneering it. It was kind of morphed into fruition... with us trying to play our best 5 guys at the same time.... and being innovative in doing so brought us success.

Here's another case of us being innovative, so we shall see what happens. Nobody else in the NBA has the kind of design that we have. Our size, athleticism, and defensive capabilities at the 3, 4, 5 is totally unique.

Well I don't agree with Shard not being a good defender. I thought he did a decent job defensively.
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Re: Poll: Is Orlando going to make this season's playoffs? 

Post#165 » by simon24 » Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:57 am

Skin wrote:
JF5 wrote:
Skin wrote:Different set of skills, but in the beginning folks used to say the same thing with Hedo and Shard in the line up. Two 6'10 tweeners on the floor at the same time who can't defend.

It's an untraditional feel, but that doesn't mean we won't have advantages to work with.


What the hell? Hedo and Rashard were 2 COMPLETELY different players offensively.

Hedo was one of the primary playmakers on the perimeter. Along with the fact that he was probably the best shot creator on the team and the unquestioned go-to guy. Lewis's role was primarily spotting up while using his post game from time-to-time. Those guys even though tweeners, were completely 2 different players.

Though I do agree that Gordon and Ibaka have different styles of play (Like Ibaka blocks shots, and Gordon is more amorphous defender and is a better passer). What they do on the court is pretty similar. High energy guys, with little offensive inclination, whose primary strengths are on the defensive end.

You must have missed the part that I just bolded and underlined for you.

Eventually, Shard settled into our PF. But originally that wasn't the clear cut case. The way we used Shard wasn't the way the Sonics used him. ...and Hedo wasn't playing Point Forward for us before Shard got here either. It was definitely questionable how things were going to work because they played the same position. We really didn't see too much of that 4 out, 1 in scheme in the NBA. At the time, we were pioneering it. It was kind of morphed into fruition... with us trying to play our best 5 guys at the same time.... and being innovative in doing so brought us success.

Here's another case of us being innovative, so we shall see what happens. Nobody else in the NBA has the kind of design that we have. Our size, athleticism, and defensive capabilities at the 3, 4, 5 is totally unique.


I'd say Boston (Crowder/Amir/Horford), Indy (George/Young/Turner), GS (KD/Iggy/Green)
Utah (Hayward/Favors/Gobert) would be comparable.
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Re: Poll: Is Orlando going to make this season's playoffs? 

Post#166 » by Optimus_Steel » Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:02 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
Skin wrote:
JF5 wrote:
What the hell? Hedo and Rashard were 2 COMPLETELY different players offensively.

Hedo was one of the primary playmakers on the perimeter. Along with the fact that he was probably the best shot creator on the team and the unquestioned go-to guy. Lewis's role was primarily spotting up while using his post game from time-to-time. Those guys even though tweeners, were completely 2 different players.

Though I do agree that Gordon and Ibaka have different styles of play (Like Ibaka blocks shots, and Gordon is more amorphous defender and is a better passer). What they do on the court is pretty similar. High energy guys, with little offensive inclination, whose primary strengths are on the defensive end.

You must have missed the part that I just bolded and underlined for you.

Eventually, Shard settled into our PF. But originally that wasn't the clear cut case. The way we used Shard wasn't the way the Sonics used him. ...and Hedo wasn't playing Point Forward for us before Shard got here either. It was definitely questionable how things were going to work because they played the same position. We really didn't see too much of that 4 out, 1 in scheme in the NBA. At the time, we were pioneering it. It was kind of morphed into fruition... with us trying to play our best 5 guys at the same time.... and being innovative in doing so brought us success.

Here's another case of us being innovative, so we shall see what happens. Nobody else in the NBA has the kind of design that we have. Our size, athleticism, and defensive capabilities at the 3, 4, 5 is totally unique.

Well I don't agree with Shard not being a good defender. I thought he did a decent job defensively.


His defensive rotations were really good. Not a great one on one defender but he did really good as a team defender for us.
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Re: Poll: Is Orlando going to make this season's playoffs? 

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Re: Poll: Is Orlando going to make this season's playoffs? 

Post#168 » by MagicMadness » Thu Feb 2, 2017 7:22 pm

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