With the 33rd and 35th picks, the Orlando Magic, select...

[j-ragg]

Go Magic!

[Howard Mass]

It was good to get a high future first for Brooklyn for #35.

Not sure about Wesley Iwundu but it's nice that The Magic got some future assets.

? we get a future first from Brooklyn? The only first that I have heard we got was OKCs 2020 1st rounder but then it has top 20 protections on it for 2020, 2021 and 2022 and if it doesn't get conveyed then we get a 2nd rounder. I haven't heard what we got from Memphis for 35.

Basically this what Philly gave us for the 25th pick. They also gave us Brooklyn's 2020 2nd round pick which figures to be the 31st pick of the 2020 pick.

2020 first round draft pick from Oklahoma City
Two years (and exactly two years only) after Oklahoma City conveys a 1st round pick to Utah, Oklahoma City will convey its 1st round pick to Philadelphia protected for selections 1-20 in 2020, 1-20 in 2021 and 1-20 in 2022; in any year, if this pick is not conveyed because it falls within its protected range, then Oklahoma City will instead convey its 2022 2nd round pick and 2023 2nd round pick to Philadelphia (i.e., the 1st round pick will not roll over to the following year due to protection) [Oklahoma City-Philadelphia, 11/1/2016]

They also got the least favorable of Brooklyn and New York's 2020 second round pick for #25.

The Magic will either get a late 1st and a 2nd or three future second round picks from Philadelphia for #25.

For #35, they got Brooklyn's 2019 second round pick from Memphis.

That is a pretty good haul and allows them to stack up on future picks.

[Howard Mass]

It was good to get a high future first for Brooklyn for #35.

Not sure about Wesley Iwundu but it's nice that The Magic got some future assets.

? we get a future first from Brooklyn? The only first that I have heard we got was OKCs 2020 1st rounder but then it has top 20 protections on it for 2020, 2021 and 2022 and if it doesn't get conveyed then we get a 2nd rounder. I haven't heard what we got from Memphis for 35.

Typo.

Good future second from Brooklyn via Memphis.

[ralphie9898]

We got a future 2nd rounder from Memphis for the 35th pick, but I haven't seen yet what year it is or if there are any protections on it.

Which after doing some research I see Memphis owns Brooklyn's 2019 second rounder. Back when I heard that trade announced(in the draft thread) before the 25th pick even was announced. In the confusion there I heard that we got a future 2nd from Brooklyn. Well since I know know we traded the 35th pick to Memphis looking at the picks Memphis has coming to them I believe they gave us the 2019 Brooklyn 2nd rounder that was previously owed to them but now I believe it goes to us. So now will be getting I believe we will have Brooklyn's 2019 and 2020 2nd round picks which very well could be 31 and 31 in both drafts.

[ralphie9898]

? we get a future first from Brooklyn? The only first that I have heard we got was OKCs 2020 1st rounder but then it has top 20 protections on it for 2020, 2021 and 2022 and if it doesn't get conveyed then we get a 2nd rounder. I haven't heard what we got from Memphis for 35.

Basically this what Philly gave us for the 25th pick. They also gave us Brooklyn's 2020 2nd round pick which figures to be the 31st pick of the 2020 pick.

2020 first round draft pick from Oklahoma City
Two years (and exactly two years only) after Oklahoma City conveys a 1st round pick to Utah, Oklahoma City will convey its 1st round pick to Philadelphia protected for selections 1-20 in 2020, 1-20 in 2021 and 1-20 in 2022; in any year, if this pick is not conveyed because it falls within its protected range, then Oklahoma City will instead convey its 2022 2nd round pick and 2023 2nd round pick to Philadelphia (i.e., the 1st round pick will not roll over to the following year due to protection) [Oklahoma City-Philadelphia, 11/1/2016]

They also got the least favorable of Brooklyn and New York's 2020 second round pick for #25.

The Magic will either get a late 1st and a 2nd or three future second round picks from Philadelphia for #25.

For #35, they got Brooklyn's 2019 second round pick from Memphis.

That is a pretty good haul and allows them to stack up on future picks.

Yeah basically what I said. That pick and its protections are what we got as well as the most favourable of Brooklyns and New York;s second rounder in 2020. But if we do not get that OKC first rounder in 2020, 2020,or 2021 we get OKC's second rounder in 2022. We wouldn't get anything more from Philly. Philly just simply transferred that pick to us as long with that most favourable 2nd rounder in 2020.

We get two second rounders for sure basically ending up both being originally Brooklyn's 2nd rounder in 2019 and 2020. Then we possibly could get a first rounder in the 20-30 range in 2020, 2021 or 2022. OKC has to convey a first to Utah so with the rule saying you can't deal two consecutive 1st rounders we have to watch that thus it could push back the years we would have a shot at a first. However all we need is for OKC to make the playoffs next year and they will then send their pick to Utah. So that shouldn't worry us too much. But we would need OKC to be a top ten team in either 2020, 2021, or 2022 which is a little tougher. If we they don't do that then we get OKC's second rounder in 2022.

[Howard Mass]

Basically this what Philly gave us for the 25th pick. They also gave us Brooklyn's 2020 2nd round pick which figures to be the 31st pick of the 2020 pick.

2020 first round draft pick from Oklahoma City
Two years (and exactly two years only) after Oklahoma City conveys a 1st round pick to Utah, Oklahoma City will convey its 1st round pick to Philadelphia protected for selections 1-20 in 2020, 1-20 in 2021 and 1-20 in 2022; in any year, if this pick is not conveyed because it falls within its protected range, then Oklahoma City will instead convey its 2022 2nd round pick and 2023 2nd round pick to Philadelphia (i.e., the 1st round pick will not roll over to the following year due to protection) [Oklahoma City-Philadelphia, 11/1/2016]

They also got the least favorable of Brooklyn and New York's 2020 second round pick for #25.

The Magic will either get a late 1st and a 2nd or three future second round picks from Philadelphia for #25.

For #35, they got Brooklyn's 2019 second round pick from Memphis.

That is a pretty good haul and allows them to stack up on future picks.

Yeah basically what I said. That pick and its protections are what we got as well as the most favourable of Brooklyns and New York;s second rounder in 2020. But if we do not get that OKC first rounder in 2020, 2020,or 2021 we get OKC's second rounder in 2022. We wouldn't get anything more from Philly. Philly just simply transferred that pick to us as long with that most favourable 2nd rounder in 2020.

We get two second rounders for sure basically ending up both being originally Brooklyn's 2nd rounder in 2019 and 2020. Then we possibly could get a first rounder in the 20-30 range in 2020, 2021 or 2022. OKC has to convey a first to Utah so with the rule saying you can't deal two consecutive 1st rounders we have to watch that thus it could push back the years we would have a shot at a first. However all we need is for OKC to make the playoffs next year and they will then send their pick to Utah. So that shouldn't worry us too much. But we would need OKC to be a top ten team in either 2020, 2021, or 2022 which is a little tougher. If we they don't do that then we get OKC's second rounder in 2022.

Well, least favorable of BKN and NYK in 2020.

If OKC's pick does not turn out to be a first, it will be 2022 AND 2023 2nds.

I still think he Magic got a good haul here and it is nice to stack up on future seconds that could be used in deals.

I bet that was the best offer for #25.

[ralphie9898]

They also got the least favorable of Brooklyn and New York's 2020 second round pick for #25.

The Magic will either get a late 1st and a 2nd or three future second round picks from Philadelphia for #25.

For #35, they got Brooklyn's 2019 second round pick from Memphis.

That is a pretty good haul and allows them to stack up on future picks.

Yeah basically what I said. That pick and its protections are what we got as well as the most favourable of Brooklyns and New York;s second rounder in 2020. But if we do not get that OKC first rounder in 2020, 2020,or 2021 we get OKC's second rounder in 2022. We wouldn't get anything more from Philly. Philly just simply transferred that pick to us as long with that most favourable 2nd rounder in 2020.

We get two second rounders for sure basically ending up both being originally Brooklyn's 2nd rounder in 2019 and 2020. Then we possibly could get a first rounder in the 20-30 range in 2020, 2021 or 2022. OKC has to convey a first to Utah so with the rule saying you can't deal two consecutive 1st rounders we have to watch that thus it could push back the years we would have a shot at a first. However all we need is for OKC to make the playoffs next year and they will then send their pick to Utah. So that shouldn't worry us too much. But we would need OKC to be a top ten team in either 2020, 2021, or 2022 which is a little tougher. If we they don't do that then we get OKC's second rounder in 2022.

Well, least favorable of BKN and NYK in 2020.

If OKC's pick does not turn out to be a first, it will be 2022 AND 2023 2nds.

I still think he Magic got a good haul here and it is nice to stack up on future seconds that could be used in deals.

I bet that was the best offer for #25.

Yeah ok so yeah if that first from OKC does not get conveyed then we do get their 2022 and 2023 2nd rounders. I missed that extra year when I read through it so my bad.

So at best we get a late first to join those for sure two high second rounders. At worst we get those two plus two 2nd rounders belonging to OKC in 2022 and 2023. As to where those will be is questionable as that is a long way away.

I too like it as we basically turn one second into two seconds that could both be higher then 35. Then we get a decent chance at a late first as long as Westbrook stays with OKC and gets some more help that could be a couple spots higher then 25 in 2020 at the earliest. Ok trades that could backfire somewhat if it turns out we don't get that future first. Though it could be a tantalizing piece for a trade as it still is possible it could be a first and maybe another team would be fine with that gamble. So we shall see how the rest of the offseason goes and how those picks turn out but yeah they do have some value. I would say it is a pretty even trade as future picks tend to have a little less value then current picks. We also have to see how Rabb and Pasecniks turn out. As for other guys that we could have had I am not sure you can judge those against us.

Though I understand the deals and they are fair so I don't have a problem with those deals but have to say I would have prefered to just take Jackson at 25 and keep Rabb but we shall see as you can't judge drafts that well yet. All you have is current value and projections and opinions to go on. As to how these guys fare we will have to wait and see.

[drsd]

If the Magic is a wining team in two years, these picks will be worth bench depth. That has value.