Adreian Payne and Orlando Magic nearing deal

[uraverage]

So glad we were able to move our late 1st this year for the opportunity to sign him .

[drsd]

So glad we were able to move our late 1st this year for the opportunity to sign him .

Adreian Payne was signed on a two-way contract that has not relations to the cap.

Trading out of 33 probably results in a very similar pick next year, and that is good in that the Magic has more cap flexibility and a greater need for bench depth Next year, and not this year.

Really the consequence of trading away the late first was to free up funds to sign Spreights and Afflalo. (whether that is a good idea plays out both i) over this season and ii) seeing what the 1st's trade becomes). But it is still hard to grasp as, to list the possibilities, the Magic could get a pick from 21-30 in 2020, 2021, or 2022 (depending on when OKC sends out picks to Utah and Philly). If the Thunder don’t fall within that range during the season two years after the Utah pick, the Magic will get OKC’s 2022 and 2023 second rounders. I actually think the later is likely, meaning the Magic might have traded this year's 25th pick for OKCs 2022 and 2023 second rounders.

For the optimists, in the very best case scenario, the Magic have traded the 25th pick in 2017 for the 21st and 31st picks in 2020.

For the pessimists, the above requires that the Thunder are a top-10 team in 2020, or the Magic get second round picks five and six years from now.

To recap, the Magic looks to have traded away the rights to Anžejs Pasečņiks for one year of Spreights and Afflalo, and the OKCs 2022 and 2023 second rounders. Frankly that is not a good trade.


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[Optimus_Steel]

Miami knows what its doing. I read about their scouting once. They have some kind of scouting-based analytics, where the scouting makes new categories of stats (as opposed to numbers making more numbers) and they were most translatable to big men. For instance, they would translate good positioning into a stat, deflections into a stat, scouting-determined good defensive sequences, acceptable TO's and FG's-scored-against. All of these little things would add up to change the picture, making an even more comprehensive advanced stat calculation in the end, like with the public PER. Can anyone say Hassan Whiteside and Justise Winslow? They fit it to a T (these defensive-minded, scout-created analytics). Also, Miami routinely finds loaded cap space points (a summer here, 2-3 summers later and again there), because like.. y'know.. FA's actually like playing in warm, tax free Florida for a team with a history of star players and winning records compared to the league average over past 20 years (oh wait, that could also include Orlando..)

everyone wants to bring up Whiteside. Miami lucked out with him. He hadnt shown that much in previous stops and started his first 2 months in Miami on the bench. And Winslow has looked horrible. To slow to be a SG, too small to play PF as he did in college. and he shoots worse than Elf

I wonder if Miami could have done a better job with Mario.

Miami's front office is slick they wouldn't have picked Mario with a top 5 pick. They could have an opportunity soon to test him out as Mario will be a free agent soon, he is most likely getting waived.

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[yoyojw17]

So glad we were able to move our late 1st this year for the opportunity to sign him .

Adreian Payne was signed on a two-way contract that has not relations to the cap.

Trading out of 33 probably results in a very similar pick next year, and that is good in that the Magic has more cap flexibility and a greater need for bench depth Next year, and not this year.

Really the consequence of trading away the late first was to free up funds to sign Spreights and Afflalo. (whether that is a good idea plays out both i) over this season and ii) seeing what the 1st's trade becomes). But it is still hard to grasp as, to list the possibilities, the Magic could get a pick from 21-30 in 2020, 2021, or 2022 (depending on when OKC sends out picks to Utah and Philly). If the Thunder don’t fall within that range during the season two years after the Utah pick, the Magic will get OKC’s 2022 and 2023 second rounders. I actually think the later is likely, meaning the Magic might have traded this year's 25th pick for OKCs 2022 and 2023 second rounders.



For the optimists, in the very best case scenario, the Magic have traded the 25th pick in 2017 for the 21st and 31st picks in 2020.

For the pessimists, the above requires that the Thunder are a top-10 team in 2020, or the Magic get second round picks five and six years from now.

To recap, the Magic looks to have traded away the rights to Anžejs Pasečņiks for one year of Spreights and Afflalo, and the OKCs 2022 and 2023 second rounders. Frankly that is not a good trade.


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Pretty much most of the people complaining. lol