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Re: Trade idea with the Knicks 

Post#41 » by bargnanimvp » Tue Apr 10, 2018 10:47 pm

why on earth would orlando do this?
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Re: Trade idea with the Knicks 

Post#42 » by klassi » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:18 pm

bargnanimvp wrote:why on earth would orlando do this?

Because Fournier is not in our long-term plans and Ntilikina + someone around 9 is better than someone we could get around 5.
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Re: Trade idea with the Knicks 

Post#43 » by Furinkazan » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:34 pm

klassi wrote:
bargnanimvp wrote:why on earth would orlando do this?

Because Fournier is not in our long-term plans and Ntilikina + someone around 9 is better than someone we could get around 5.

you pretty got your answer so no need to force the issue
basicly you are alone on this trade
also your Ntilikina+9 is better than Fournier and 5th is very debatable and Im being polite here.
this alone is still a debatable trade and when you add worst contratct in the league into discussion its basicly over ...nothing to talk about...

maybe if it was Biyombo+ some sweetener and 5th for Noah 9th and Ntilikina maybe just maybe someone would be open to talks on ths board at least
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Re: Trade idea with the Knicks 

Post#44 » by klassi » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:46 am

~Snoopy~ wrote:
klassi wrote:
bargnanimvp wrote:why on earth would orlando do this?

Because Fournier is not in our long-term plans and Ntilikina + someone around 9 is better than someone we could get around 5.

you pretty got your answer so no need to force the issue
basicly you are alone on this trade
also your Ntilikina+9 is better than Fournier and 5th is very debatable and Im being polite here.
this alone is still a debatable trade and when you add worst contratct in the league into discussion its basicly over ...nothing to talk about...

maybe if it was Biyombo+ some sweetener and 5th for Noah 9th and Ntilikina maybe just maybe someone would be open to talks on ths board at least

I recognize I'm alone in this idea, but I still believe in it.

I don't think Ntilinkina + 9 being better than Fournier is debatable, Fournier is our best asset we would be willing to move and he doesn't fit with our timeline. It's a no brainier for me, bigger question is who we'd take at 9 for me
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Re: Trade idea with the Knicks 

Post#45 » by ralphie9898 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:12 am

klassi wrote:
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fklt wrote:so we trade down, while taking on huge salary, while giving away fournier, and giving away another first rounder? for ntilikina? cool.

Yep. Not even close to a fair return. Frank has still got some upside but not enough to where it fills in the gap in picks. Plus we don't know where our pick will end up. If it ends up at number one I would be even more mad about this trade. We have to at least wait and see where our pick ends up first and even then I absolutely say no as well.

I'm only suggesting the trade if we miss out on Doncic and JJJ

Even then it is still a bad trade as there are other players just as good as those two you listed that will likely be available. No way I would just rather stay where we are and not give up all that for guys who I don't think help us much.
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Re: Trade idea with the Knicks 

Post#46 » by bargnanimvp » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:15 am

klassi wrote:
~Snoopy~ wrote:
klassi wrote:Because Fournier is not in our long-term plans and Ntilikina + someone around 9 is better than someone we could get around 5.

you pretty got your answer so no need to force the issue
basicly you are alone on this trade
also your Ntilikina+9 is better than Fournier and 5th is very debatable and Im being polite here.
this alone is still a debatable trade and when you add worst contratct in the league into discussion its basicly over ...nothing to talk about...

maybe if it was Biyombo+ some sweetener and 5th for Noah 9th and Ntilikina maybe just maybe someone would be open to talks on ths board at least

I recognize I'm alone in this idea, but I still believe in it.

I don't think Ntilinkina + 9 being better than Fournier is debatable, Fournier is our best asset we would be willing to move and he doesn't fit with our timeline. It's a no brainier for me, bigger question is who we'd take at 9 for me

Ntilinkina would be lucky to be as good as fournier though and we move down as well? makes zero sense

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