Gordon or Porter Jr?

[rcklsscognition]

He didn't really ask for anything, he was asked a question, what his ideal was. Now whether he should've said what he said is another question entirely. If it was me I would've said the good Ole "I'll let my agent handle that". Either way he's not getting max, teams are getting tighter with their wallets these days.

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Just curious, what are you basing this on? By my check, the top 40 players in the NBA all make north of 20 million a year. If you dive into those contracts, many of those deals also have raises that stretch into the 30s a year. Doesn't seem like there are any purse strings being tightened to me.

i'm not talking about contracts that have already been handed out i'm talking about going forward should've made that more clear. I don't have any links or anything but just going off of what people tell me. When NBA got all that money people thought they were going to be handing out all these crazy contracts but for the most part that wasn't really the case at least not recently i think the cap wasn't as high as people thought it was going to be. In this case i highly doubt that AG will get a max or a near max, i just don't see any other team pulling that trigger without getting that hot seat ready first.

Ok, I understand your point. I was looking through contracts and I see a pattern with some recent contracts. There are a few different clusters of players, but they are all right around the same figures:

21-23-25-27
22-24-26-28
23-25-27-29
23-24-25

I think it is reasonable to expect AG to be in one of those clusters.

[thelead]

It all depends on his back. People here hate talent apparently. If his back is okay, you take him and play him alongside of AG and Isaac. MPjr could be the scorer we’re looking for which would enable AG and Isaac to focus on what they should be focused on: defense, cutting without the ball and spotting up.

[drsd]

He didn't really ask for anything, he was asked a question, what his ideal was. Now whether he should've said what he said is another question entirely. If it was me I would've said the good Ole "I'll let my agent handle that". Either way he's not getting max, teams are getting tighter with their wallets these days.

If the Magic could sign Gordon starting at $20M with 5% raises, this comes to a 5 year 110M deal. This could be a very cost effective path forward for Orlando. And for Gordon, it's 110M friggen dollars in a state without income tax.

This is the modern version of the deal Vučević signed, and it is probably the best Orlando could hope for.

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[drsd]

Just curious, what are you basing this on? By my check, the top 40 players in the NBA all make north of 20 million a year. If you dive into those contracts, many of those deals also have raises that stretch into the 30s a year. Doesn't seem like there are any purse strings being tightened to me.

There aren't many teams with space this summer, and those teams have their own free agents to deal with. Since AG is restricted, it'd have to be a big chunk of cap tied up for 7 days while Orlando elects to match or not. Just doesn't seem like he'd get a huge deal imo.[/quote]

This implies Orlando would not make a competitive offer to start the process. That would be a mistake in my opinion.

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[j-ragg]

Just curious, what are you basing this on? By my check, the top 40 players in the NBA all make north of 20 million a year. If you dive into those contracts, many of those deals also have raises that stretch into the 30s a year. Doesn't seem like there are any purse strings being tightened to me.

There aren't many teams with space this summer, and those teams have their own free agents to deal with. Since AG is restricted, it'd have to be a big chunk of cap tied up for 7 days while Orlando elects to match or not. Just doesn't seem like he'd get a huge deal imo.

This implies Orlando would not make a competitive offer to start the process. That would be a mistake in my opinion.

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I mean it's all about context. If Gordon wants to negotiate then I'm sure they'd be willing to agree on a number instead of letting an asset go talk to other teams. But if he still has that immature mindset all about the max, then I'd tell him okay go get an offer sheet and we'll consider re-signing.

[Mauro Pedrosa]

Gordon

[Furinkazan]

Its more like AG+someone we draft vs MPJ
and then the answer is easy

[J_Magic]

Gordon is a bit like Wiggins...doesn't play winning basketball.

Sure he had a couple of 40 pt games... but we didnt he break the 20ppg mark?

What is holding him back?

[MagicFan101]

Gordon is a bit like Wiggins...doesn't play winning basketball.

Sure he had a couple of 40 pt games... but we didnt he break the 20ppg mark?

What is holding him back?

He isn’t a creator on offense. He isn’t an iso player. But outside of the crazy elite HOF names, how many power forwards are? Not having a stable facilitor has been a problem for everyone on this team, including Gordon.

I’m not trying to make excuses for AG; just answering the question.

It would be lovely if max contracts were reserved only for the Lebron and Durant’s of the world. But look around the league. That just isn’t the case.

I wish we had seen more from AG to make this decision easier to swallow. I do and I fully understand why many of you are not interested in paying him what he will likely command on the open market. But barring a crazy trade offer, we are going to match his deal and go into next with him, Isaac and whomever we select (big man or guard).

[darthmerrick]

MPJ injured his back. How are we sure he's anywhere near a top 5 pick now. All it takes is one time and your not the same player Olajuwan, McGrady, Larry Bird. They went down hill after that injury and they were already playing a rough rigorous NBA schedule. MPJ did it in college.