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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#101 » by zaymon » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:05 pm

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basketballRob wrote:It's a perimeter league but you have to have tough guys. Watching Boston-Philadelphia series and Miami-Philly series it was a fight every game.

You don't use the #6 pick for one. Resign Speights. Gives us toughness and legitimate 3pt shooting. Don't need Carter who is likely to give us a David West type player.

Cmon man just admit you have this love-hate relationship with Carter ;) West is two time All-star, around 20 pts a game efficient scorer when given opportunity. Carter projects as a better passer, 3 point shooter, rim protector. You say no, but your mind says all-star and your heart screams for some Carter hug. I think i am at a state where i take Trae before Carter but if we snag any of them i am happy
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#102 » by cedric76 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:14 pm

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basketballRob wrote:It's a perimeter league but you have to have tough guys. Watching Boston-Philadelphia series and Miami-Philly series it was a fight every game.

You don't use the #6 pick for one. Resign Speights. Gives us toughness and legitimate 3pt shooting. Don't need Carter who is likely to give us a David West type player.


You don't get a Seth curry with #6 either
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#103 » by mr2good » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:11 pm

Haven’t read the 6 pages, but I see this as worst case scenario for the Magic drafting at 6. Bamba, MPJ or Trae unless one of the other top prospects fall.
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#104 » by Optimus_Steel » Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:46 pm

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basketballRob wrote:It's a perimeter league but you have to have tough guys. Watching Boston-Philadelphia series and Miami-Philly series it was a fight every game.

You don't use the #6 pick for one. Resign Speights. Gives us toughness and legitimate 3pt shooting. Don't need Carter who is likely to give us a David West type player.


You don't get a Seth curry with #6 either

Seth or Steph?


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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#105 » by Skin » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:10 am

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Skin wrote:
basketballRob wrote:It's a perimeter league but you have to have tough guys. Watching Boston-Philadelphia series and Miami-Philly series it was a fight every game.

You don't use the #6 pick for one. Resign Speights. Gives us toughness and legitimate 3pt shooting. Don't need Carter who is likely to give us a David West type player.


You don't get a Seth curry with #6 either

Seth Curry lead the NCAA in assists?
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#106 » by Skin » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:50 am

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basketballRob wrote:It's a perimeter league but you have to have tough guys. Watching Boston-Philadelphia series and Miami-Philly series it was a fight every game.

You don't use the #6 pick for one. Resign Speights. Gives us toughness and legitimate 3pt shooting. Don't need Carter who is likely to give us a David West type player.

Cmon man just admit you have this love-hate relationship with Carter ;) West is two time All-star, around 20 pts a game efficient scorer when given opportunity. Carter projects as a better passer, 3 point shooter, rim protector. You say no, but your mind says all-star and your heart screams for some Carter hug. I think i am at a state where i take Trae before Carter but if we snag any of them i am happy

Carter is not even as good as Vuc. :lol:
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#107 » by Magic4champ » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:04 am

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cedric76 wrote:
Skin wrote:You don't use the #6 pick for one. Resign Speights. Gives us toughness and legitimate 3pt shooting. Don't need Carter who is likely to give us a David West type player.


You don't get a Seth curry with #6 either

Seth Curry lead the NCAA in assists?

What sets apart from Steph from Seth and any point guard like CP3 is his defensive tenacity. Also Steph is an outlier in offense. He has no conscience in taking 3's that would be a bad shot for other coaches.

Trae Young is miles away from Steph. In terms of offensive moves and defense. But Trae's strength is his play making ability but this is on the premise that he can get his shots off in an NBA caliber defense.

For me if Doncic is available at 6 he can be our point forward who can maximize our present talents in offense. He can facilitate like Turk did in our 4 out 1 in offense.

The key in todays NBA is versatility and 2 way players. Play making skills in every positions. Basketball IQ is now important than freakish atletism. Aside from great one on one skills like Jason Tatum. Todays players need a lot of heart and tenacity to play defense like marcus smart. That what was lacking in Elfrid payton, he may have all the physical tools but what is between his head was troulsome fir the team.
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#108 » by Skin » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:14 am

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Skin wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
You don't get a Seth curry with #6 either

Seth Curry lead the NCAA in assists?

What sets apart from Steph from Seth and any point guard like CP3 is his defensive tenacity. Also Steph is an outlier in offense. He has no conscience in taking 3's that would be a bad shot for other coaches.

Trae Young is miles away from Steph. In terms of offensive moves and defense. But Trae's strength is his play making ability but this is on the premise that he can get his shots off in an NBA caliber defense.

For me if Doncic is available at 6 he can be our point forward who can maximize our present talents in offense. He can facilitate like Turk did in our 4 out 1 in offense.

The key in todays NBA is versatility and 2 way players. Play making skills in every positions. Basketball IQ is now important than freakish atletism. Aside from great one on one skills like Jason Tatum. Todays players need a lot of heart and tenacity to play defense like marcus smart. That what was lacking in Elfrid payton, he may have all the physical tools but what is between his head was troulsome fir the team.

People still think Doncic will be there at 6?

Young is not Steph. Doesn't have to be. Doncic is not a 2 way player as a Point Forward.
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#109 » by Magic4champ » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:29 am

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Magic4champ wrote:
Skin wrote:Seth Curry lead the NCAA in assists?

What sets apart from Steph from Seth and any point guard like CP3 is his defensive tenacity. Also Steph is an outlier in offense. He has no conscience in taking 3's that would be a bad shot for other coaches.

Trae Young is miles away from Steph. In terms of offensive moves and defense. But Trae's strength is his play making ability but this is on the premise that he can get his shots off in an NBA caliber defense.

For me if Doncic is available at 6 he can be our point forward who can maximize our present talents in offense. He can facilitate like Turk did in our 4 out 1 in offense.

The key in todays NBA is versatility and 2 way players. Play making skills in every positions. Basketball IQ is now important than freakish atletism. Aside from great one on one skills like Jason Tatum. Todays players need a lot of heart and tenacity to play defense like marcus smart. That what was lacking in Elfrid payton, he may have all the physical tools but what is between his head was troulsome fir the team.

People still think Doncic will be there at 6?

Young is not Steph. Doesn't have to be. Doncic is not a 2 way player as a Point Forward.

Yeah that is also the problem with Doncic. He is a liability in defense. He is not as tall as Turk. He may be like our Mario when he started to play in the NBA. He maybe overwhelmed that he cannot operate like he did in Europe. NBA is a different animal with a lot of scouting and opposing players studying every move and weakness. Doncic is only 19 and he should never stop working on his weakness.
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#110 » by fendilim » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:45 am

Magic4champ wrote:
Skin wrote:
Magic4champ wrote:What sets apart from Steph from Seth and any point guard like CP3 is his defensive tenacity. Also Steph is an outlier in offense. He has no conscience in taking 3's that would be a bad shot for other coaches.

Trae Young is miles away from Steph. In terms of offensive moves and defense. But Trae's strength is his play making ability but this is on the premise that he can get his shots off in an NBA caliber defense.

For me if Doncic is available at 6 he can be our point forward who can maximize our present talents in offense. He can facilitate like Turk did in our 4 out 1 in offense.

The key in todays NBA is versatility and 2 way players. Play making skills in every positions. Basketball IQ is now important than freakish atletism. Aside from great one on one skills like Jason Tatum. Todays players need a lot of heart and tenacity to play defense like marcus smart. That what was lacking in Elfrid payton, he may have all the physical tools but what is between his head was troulsome fir the team.

People still think Doncic will be there at 6?

Young is not Steph. Doesn't have to be. Doncic is not a 2 way player as a Point Forward.

Yeah that is also the problem with Doncic. He is a liability in defense. He is not as tall as Turk. He may be like our Mario when he started to play in the NBA. He maybe overwhelmed that he cannot operate like he did in Europe. NBA is a different animal with a lot of scouting and opposing players studying every move and weakness. Doncic is only 19 and he should never stop working on his weakness.

No nba player should ever stop on working on his weakness.
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#111 » by nicnac215 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:10 am

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nicnac215 wrote:Carter needs to learn how to run or he will have a career with injury problems


He looks agile to me.

Not agility but mechanics
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#112 » by VFX » Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:36 am

IMO this is the best true Center in the draft that fits how the position is most effective in today’s nba.

Carter was sharing the court with Bagley and was in a Duke system that didn’t necessarily showcase his game to the fullest extent.

Obviously as a #6 pick , Orlando will have to move Vuc to make sense of this selection.
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#113 » by zaymon » Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:49 am

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Skin wrote:You don't use the #6 pick for one. Resign Speights. Gives us toughness and legitimate 3pt shooting. Don't need Carter who is likely to give us a David West type player.

Cmon man just admit you have this love-hate relationship with Carter ;) West is two time All-star, around 20 pts a game efficient scorer when given opportunity. Carter projects as a better passer, 3 point shooter, rim protector. You say no, but your mind says all-star and your heart screams for some Carter hug. I think i am at a state where i take Trae before Carter but if we snag any of them i am happy

Carter is not even as good as Vuc. :lol:

Vucevic is very skilled such a high bar you set :P
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#114 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:55 am

nicnac215 wrote:
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nicnac215 wrote:Carter needs to learn how to run or he will have a career with injury problems


He looks agile to me.

Not agility but mechanics


Not sure what you're talking about.
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#115 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:56 am

With the eye test and in every statistical category in college Carter is better than Vuc.
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#116 » by uraverage » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:29 pm

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nicnac215 wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
He looks agile to me.

Not agility but mechanics


Not sure what you're talking about.



After watching almost ever Duke game this year. I can tell you that he is not agile at all. He always seemed to be in foul trouble (could have been the zone d). Also his stats are not a good representation of him, being that he was always playing against the opposing teams 2nd best defender, first was on Bagley. I think he has BUST written all over him.
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#117 » by fendilim » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:38 pm

I honestly thought WCJ would be the only player we are considering for the 6th that would disappoint me. Now we have Sexton to be concerned about too...
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Re: Wendell Carter at 6? 

Post#118 » by SOUL » Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:43 pm

uraverage wrote: Also his stats are not a good representation of him, being that he was always playing against the opposing teams 2nd best defender, first was on Bagley. I think he has BUST written all over him.


Not sure I understand this part. You're assuming every other team's best defender is whoever lines up against Bagley, which simply isn't true. He (Bagley) may have gotten more attention, sure, but it doesn't mean they were the team's best defenders.
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