ImageImageImageImage

Let's Talk About Mario

Moderators: ChosenSavior, UCF, Knightro, UCFJayBird, Def Swami, Howard Mass

T-Cat
Starter
Posts: 2,346
And1: 531
Joined: May 04, 2004

Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#1121 » by T-Cat » Sun Jul 1, 2018 11:17 am

With Hezonja saying playing time is the main thing he'll look for a a FA, why don't we offer him the starting point guard role?

I heard the Knicks with Steve Perry have already met with and they like Hezonja, so we act quickly before we possibly lose him to the Knicks!
Uncommon
Junior
Posts: 382
And1: 417
Joined: Feb 10, 2017
Location: Orlando
       

Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#1122 » by Uncommon » Sun Jul 1, 2018 11:24 am

T-Cat wrote:With Hezonja saying playing time is the main thing he'll look for a a FA, why don't we offer him the starting point guard role?

I heard the Knicks with Steve Perry have already met with and they like Hezonja, so we act quickly before we possibly lose him to the Knicks!


He can’t really dribble, nor does he have Great court vision. He hasn’t played PG since Skiles. His best position is probably small-ball PF. That’s how he flourished this past season, by beating bigger, slower guys off the dribble.
this is my signature.
User avatar
fendilim
RealGM
Posts: 31,835
And1: 5,470
Joined: Jun 11, 2002
Location: 孫悟空, 时间太?!

Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#1123 » by fendilim » Sun Jul 1, 2018 11:25 am

Would definitely love to have Mario back. Oh well. Lets see how it turns out.
Image
Skybox
RealGM
Posts: 18,367
And1: 8,424
Joined: Jan 21, 2017
 

Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#1124 » by Skybox » Sun Jul 1, 2018 12:26 pm

I'd say our best shot at Mario is if we sign and trade a pissed-off AG for a Point Guard and promise Mario starting SF minutes. If I'm Mario, I'm gone tho- it probably feels nice to be recruited by other teams and told how badly he was misused and how he could flourish in their featured role...(and they wouldn't be lying, IMO).

I wouldn't trade AG just to get Mario, of course...I'm just saying that could be the fallout if the AG situation goes that way.
AG>Mario today
Mario's ceiling>AG's ceiling, potentially...I still worry about AG's mental ceiling. Mario's is kind of unknown at this point
jayrehme
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,707
And1: 508
Joined: Feb 15, 2006
Location: Fort Myers, FL
 

Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#1125 » by jayrehme » Sun Jul 1, 2018 12:28 pm

Ed Davis, who's a solid player only got 4.4M .... I think it comes down to how much playing time we can promise him
King-
Rookie
Posts: 1,104
And1: 676
Joined: Jan 12, 2012

Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#1126 » by King- » Sun Jul 1, 2018 1:01 pm

Uncommon wrote:
T-Cat wrote:With Hezonja saying playing time is the main thing he'll look for a a FA, why don't we offer him the starting point guard role?

I heard the Knicks with Steve Perry have already met with and they like Hezonja, so we act quickly before we possibly lose him to the Knicks!


He can’t really dribble, nor does he have Great court vision. He hasn’t played PG since Skiles. His best position is probably small-ball PF. That’s how he flourished this past season, by beating bigger, slower guys off the dribble.


Um, no. You must have been watching a different team. If anything, he looked at his worst when randomly thrown in as a 4 against obvious much bigger and stronger power forwards, although he did a great job of adjusting as the season went on.

Almost all of the great games Mario had last season were as a wing player, with the ball in his hands, and play-making by using his court vision... and dribble-drives were some of his main weapons. I think you're wrong, he's clearly a wing and showed tremendous improvement in his dribbling when he finally got freedom this year, and I think his court-vision speaks for itself if you just watch some of the highlight passes he has thrown to AG.


But no.. lets make him a under-sized power forward instead of using his height as a wing to our advantage and working on that.... trying to neuteur the man, classic Magic :lol: :banghead:
pepe1991
RealGM
Posts: 22,996
And1: 18,982
Joined: Jan 10, 2016
   

Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#1127 » by pepe1991 » Sun Jul 1, 2018 1:20 pm

jayrehme wrote:Ed Davis, who's a solid player only got 4.4M .... I think it comes down to how much playing time we can promise him


Davis isn't good and is almost 30...
Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. -John Lennon
Uncommon
Junior
Posts: 382
And1: 417
Joined: Feb 10, 2017
Location: Orlando
       

Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#1128 » by Uncommon » Sun Jul 1, 2018 1:45 pm

King- wrote:
Uncommon wrote:
T-Cat wrote:With Hezonja saying playing time is the main thing he'll look for a a FA, why don't we offer him the starting point guard role?

I heard the Knicks with Steve Perry have already met with and they like Hezonja, so we act quickly before we possibly lose him to the Knicks!


He can’t really dribble, nor does he have Great court vision. He hasn’t played PG since Skiles. His best position is probably small-ball PF. That’s how he flourished this past season, by beating bigger, slower guys off the dribble.


Um, no. You must have been watching a different team. If anything, he looked at his worst when randomly thrown in as a 4 against obvious much bigger and stronger power forwards, although he did a great job of adjusting as the season went on.

Almost all of the great games Mario had last season were as a wing player, with the ball in his hands, and play-making by using his court vision... and dribble-drives were some of his main weapons. I think you're wrong, he's clearly a wing and showed tremendous improvement in his dribbling when he finally got freedom this year, and I think his court-vision speaks for itself if you just watch some of the highlight passes he has thrown to AG.


But no.. lets make him a under-sized power forward instead of using his height as a wing to our advantage and working on that.... trying to neuteur the man, classic Magic :lol: :banghead:

Are you a Magic fan? I say this because it honestly does not seem like to you watched any games and I sadly watched like 74 (a couple games didn’t air in Tampa).

Mario’s best games when he looked like an NBA player were when he was a stretch-4 and able to take advantage over slower, bigger players.

He scored 28 against the Pistons with this starting lineup: Vucevic-Mario-Simmons-Mack-DJ.

He scored 16 against the Wizards with this starting lineup:
Vucevic-Mario-Simmons-Iwundu-Payton.

He scored 20 against the Heat with this starting lineup:
Biyombo-Mario-Simmons-Fournier-Payton

He had a 3-game stretch of 23, 24, and 21 against the Bucks, Bulls, and Hornets with this starting lineup:
Biyombo-Mario-Simmons-Fournier-DJ

So I have to ask, what are you talking about? Watch the games friend. Mario’s best games were at the 4. No one that knows anything about Mario or Magic basketball would disagree.
this is my signature.
User avatar
j-ragg
RealGM
Posts: 18,332
And1: 11,680
Joined: Mar 31, 2005
Location: the don't re-sign Hedo bandwagon.
   

Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#1129 » by j-ragg » Sun Jul 1, 2018 2:04 pm

King- wrote:
Uncommon wrote:
T-Cat wrote:With Hezonja saying playing time is the main thing he'll look for a a FA, why don't we offer him the starting point guard role?

I heard the Knicks with Steve Perry have already met with and they like Hezonja, so we act quickly before we possibly lose him to the Knicks!


He can’t really dribble, nor does he have Great court vision. He hasn’t played PG since Skiles. His best position is probably small-ball PF. That’s how he flourished this past season, by beating bigger, slower guys off the dribble.


Um, no. You must have been watching a different team. If anything, he looked at his worst when randomly thrown in as a 4 against obvious much bigger and stronger power forwards, although he did a great job of adjusting as the season went on.

Almost all of the great games Mario had last season were as a wing player, with the ball in his hands, and play-making by using his court vision... and dribble-drives were some of his main weapons. I think you're wrong, he's clearly a wing and showed tremendous improvement in his dribbling when he finally got freedom this year, and I think his court-vision speaks for itself if you just watch some of the highlight passes he has thrown to AG.


But no.. lets make him a under-sized power forward instead of using his height as a wing to our advantage and working on that.... trying to neuteur the man, classic Magic :lol: :banghead:

The reason they have to play him as a stretch 4 is because his handle stinks (although gotten slightly better) and he can't take small forwards off the dribble. Similar with AG, couldn't really create offense at the 3 the prior season. Mario also wasn't good guarding wings, so I think Vogel did it so he didn't have to deal with that foot speed on defense as well. Dribble-drives were not one of his weapons imo.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Durant thinks Vooch is one of the Best Centers in the NBA. I will take his word over a couch-GM yelling at a TV.
Gurudumu
Ballboy
Posts: 6
And1: 6
Joined: Apr 04, 2018

Re: Let's Talk About Mario 

Post#1130 » by Gurudumu » Mon Jul 2, 2018 5:29 pm

he gone..

Return to Orlando Magic