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Regular Season Game 17: New York Knicks (4-12) at Orlando Magic (8-8)

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Re: Regular Season Game 17: New York Knicks (4-12) at Orlando Magic (8-8) 

Post#241 » by Driguez » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:02 am

Solid Snake wrote:Whatever side you fall on with Vuc, he can't be denied so far...... You have to at least admit that. When it comes to hate though its fournier and jsimms for me at this point.

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Vuc has been really good, no denying there. Fournier, for what's he's supposed to be, has been bad. I do worry this is a case of the contract year for Vuc, but seems like coach is playing him to his strengths.
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Re: Regular Season Game 17: New York Knicks (4-12) at Orlando Magic (8-8) 

Post#242 » by pepe1991 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:03 am

Gordon had dunking practice lol
Great to see him settle for role he is best suited for, not acting he is Westbrook.

Vuc 1 assist shy from triple double,another strong performance.

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Re: Regular Season Game 17: New York Knicks (4-12) at Orlando Magic (8-8) 

Post#243 » by nemesis37 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:39 am

Didn't watch the second half. Good to see Isaac's stepping up.
Knicks are bad but the back to back make us tired. Let's see if we can keep up on the road trip. If we get 2W i'll be happy.
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Re: Regular Season Game 17: New York Knicks (4-12) at Orlando Magic (8-8) 

Post#244 » by Bergmaniac » Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:54 pm

This season is really showing what an atrocious offensive coach Vogel is. The offense looks so much better with virtually the same roster (and after replacing Payton with a much worse PG) and the ball movement and player movement are on another level.
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Post#245 » by IllMagic04 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:58 pm

I have no idea how we are scoring this many points but I know its not sustainable. But for now this is fun. I'm a tanker but this team has been fun to watch so far.
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Re: Regular Season Game 17: New York Knicks (4-12) at Orlando Magic (8-8) 

Post#246 » by Optimus_Steel » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:34 pm

Bergmaniac wrote:This season is really showing what an atrocious offensive coach Vogel is. The offense looks so much better with virtually the same roster (and after replacing Payton with a much worse PG) and the ball movement and player movement are on another level.


Vogel got exposed big time. He is not head coaching material, he doesn't have the right mentality to get the players attention and instill discipline, and he lacks imagination. But still the team was dysfunctional and lacking talent.
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Re: Regular Season Game 17: New York Knicks (4-12) at Orlando Magic (8-8) 

Post#247 » by MagicMadness » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:59 pm

IllMagic04 wrote:I have no idea how we are scoring this many points but I know its not sustainable. But for now this is fun. I'm a tanker but this team has been fun to watch so far.


Yeah, I'm feeling weird about this team. I don't think we're nearly as good as our record indicates, but at the same time, we're somehow beating teams like the Celtics, 76ers, and LeBrons. I want to go all in, but I'm still hesitant.

Also, I don't know what to do with Vuc. All of a sudden, he's a very effective player. Do we re-sign him? Do we try to trade him? Do we lose him for nothing? If we do re-sign him, what happens with Bamba?
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Re: Regular Season Game 17: New York Knicks (4-12) at Orlando Magic (8-8) 

Post#248 » by IllMagic04 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:26 pm

MagicMadness wrote:
IllMagic04 wrote:I have no idea how we are scoring this many points but I know its not sustainable. But for now this is fun. I'm a tanker but this team has been fun to watch so far.


Yeah, I'm feeling weird about this team. I don't think we're nearly as good as our record indicates, but at the same time, we're somehow beating teams like the Celtics, 76ers, and LeBrons. I want to go all on in, but I'm still hesitant.

Also, I don't know what to do with Vuc. All of a sudden, he's a very effective player. Do we re-sign him? Do we try to trade him? Do we lose him for nothing? If we do re-sign him, what happens with Bamba?


I think this next streach of games should tell us something. If we are competive in these upcoming games then Id get closer into buying in. By the deadline if we are still somehow in the playoff race then I think we will hold on to Vuc and resign him. Bamba is still not ready to be a starter IF you are trying to win. If we fall apart which is what will probally happen then I think we move Vuc at the deadline.
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Post#249 » by magicman112 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:00 pm



He's starting to put it together and his confidence is growing.
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Re: Regular Season Game 17: New York Knicks (4-12) at Orlando Magic (8-8) 

Post#250 » by magicman112 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:03 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:
Bergmaniac wrote:This season is really showing what an atrocious offensive coach Vogel is. The offense looks so much better with virtually the same roster (and after replacing Payton with a much worse PG) and the ball movement and player movement are on another level.


Vogel got exposed big time. He is not head coaching material, he doesn't have the right mentality to get the players attention and instill discipline, and he lacks imagination. But still the team was dysfunctional and lacking talent.


Yeah, he was fortunate to have a superstar in Paul George in Indy. When Larry Bird casts you aside that says something. That said I was excited when he was hired but as we found out without a star player he just couldn't get it done. The fact that he hasn't gotten a head coaching job this season speaks volumes.
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Re: Regular Season Game 17: New York Knicks (4-12) at Orlando Magic (8-8) 

Post#251 » by NotACat » Mon Nov 19, 2018 8:51 pm

magicman112 wrote:

He's starting to put it together and his confidence is growing.

With our second unit, if our first action fails, I want JI handling the ball. He seems capable enough to take almost anyone off the dribble and it'd be great for us if he gets more comfortable making the right decision in those situations

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