Regular Season Game 21: Orlando Magic (10-10) at Golden State Warriors (14-7)

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that's one way of looking at it.
In reality they were regular season overachiver that should lose in WCF due suspension that nba didn't want to to do on Green,but did suspend him for same thing in nba finals ,because well, Lebron is league's golden cow.
Not to mention that Warriros won first ring mostly because Irving and Love were hurt and still took them 6 games.

But it's easier to call Durant snake and pretend that Warriros were world beaters before him, ignoring that even with him they almost lost to Houston last year.

They have the leagues two best shooters, one of which possibly in league history, an all star in Draymond, and Andre off the bench as a sixth man. Their team was still the most talented going into next season regardless. They were perennial favorites outside of the Lebron/ Kyrie duo. Record says it all in a competitive west.

[pepe1991]

that's one way of looking at it.
In reality they were regular season overachiver that should lose in WCF due suspension that nba didn't want to to do on Green,but did suspend him for same thing in nba finals ,because well, Lebron is league's golden cow.
Not to mention that Warriros won first ring mostly because Irving and Love were hurt and still took them 6 games.

But it's easier to call Durant snake and pretend that Warriros were world beaters before him, ignoring that even with him they almost lost to Houston last year.

They have the leagues two best shooters, one of which possibly in league history, an all star in Draymond, and Andre off the bench as a sixth man. Their team was still the most talented going into next season regardless. They were perennial favorites outside of the Lebron/ Kyrie duo. Record says it all in a competitive west.

Eeeh, Green is great defender but really isn't allstar talent. He is allstar because team has incredible success much like Korver and Teague were in past for Hawks.

Iggy before Warriors won one playoff series in his life, against Bulls that were shocked after Rosee got hurt for first time and i think both Noah and Deng got hurt at some point too. ( remember Asik getting PT ).

In reality Lebron/Irving/Love trio was more talented than any trio that Warriors could offer by a mile. But due incredible team plays of Klay and Curry that they were amazing. Also they were lucky to not have anybody signed on big contract, where Lebron's $33M stopped Cavs from getting better role players.

At end of the season were rest of the league was chilling, Warriors were still chasing ghoust of Jordan's Bulls. Playoffs role and they bearly survived OKC, Curry was already hurt i think, and vs Cavs they lose Green due another nut shot.

In reality, if league treated his two nuts the same, OKC would reach nba finals and Durant would probably never leave for Warriors, also Warriors would never become the Warriors and would probably fade away mostly because Curry is hurt every year anyway.

[MagicFrenchie]

Despite the French link I have with Fournier, I don't even want to se him any more minute in a Magic jersey.
I'm done with him.

Despite my french link too, I'm done with him a long time ago

Haha good to hear , a fellow friend , you are from Lille?

[OrlandoNed]

Eeeh, Green is great defender but really isn't allstar talent. He is allstar because team has incredible success much like Korver and Teague were in past for Hawks.

Oh BS. Green is clearly an all-star level talent. He's not a great defender, he is an elite defender of every position. He is also an excellent rebounder and passer. The only thing he isn't great at is scoring. How many other players out there can run an offense as well as most point guards on one end of the floor and on the other end, defend and switch onto any player without help on every single possession?

...also Warriors would never become the Warriors and would probably fade away mostly because Curry is hurt every year anyway.

The Warriors were the Warriors long before Durant got there. A team doesn't break one of the most legendary records in sports unless that team is one of the best teams in NBA history. And that was before they added a 2nd top 3 player in the league.

[pepe1991]

Eeeh, Green is great defender but really isn't allstar talent. He is allstar because team has incredible success much like Korver and Teague were in past for Hawks.

Oh BS. Green is clearly an all-star level talent. He's not a great defender, he is an elite defender of every position. He is also an excellent rebounder and passer. The only thing he isn't great at is scoring. How many other players out there can run an offense as well as most point guards on one end of the floor and on the other end, defend and switch onto any player without help on every single possession?

...also Warriors would never become the Warriors and would probably fade away mostly because Curry is hurt every year anyway.

The Warriors were the Warriors long before Durant got there. A team doesn't break one of the most legendary records in sports unless that team is one of the best teams in NBA history. And that was before they added a 2nd top 3 player in the league.

He is also an excellent rebounder and passer.

Not that hard to pile up assists when Curry and Klay are ones who shoot them.
He is good rebounder, not excellent. He is 53rd in contested rebounds and around 30 rebounding chances. Not bad by any streach of imagination but not great.
But he is also career 9 ppg player who gets to allstar game by averaging 10 points a game while shooting 41% overall ( 2016) and 30% for 3.

How many other players out there can run an offense as well as most point guards on one end of the floor and on the other end, defend and switch onto any player without help on every single possession?

He does not run offense, most of his assists are from set plays designed for shooters. He is ball destributor, not some crazy playmaker.
You can see it with potential assists. Blake Griffin creates 3 potential assists per game more than him, yet has almost 2 assist per game less, because it matters who knocks down that created chances.
Chris Paul has almost idential APG data, yet creates 5 potential assists more .

The Warriors were the Warriors long before Durant got there

By long you mean two seasons?
Because in 2014 they lost in first round to Clippers.

[KokoKaizer]

Despite the French link I have with Fournier, I don't even want to se him any more minute in a Magic jersey.
I'm done with him.

Despite my french link too, I'm done with him a long time ago

Haha good to hear , a fellow friend , you are from Lille?

Yep exactly ! I never get far away of my native Land (Douai, Lille, Maubeuge, all in the North!)

Where are u from dear MagicFrenchie ?

[MagicFrenchie]

I'm from Lyon! Good to hear that there are other Orlando magic Fans in France haha , you speak french too?