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RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems?

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Re: RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems? 

Post#21 » by rusoopE » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:18 am

No into this draft class yet. Is this guy RJ that good? This is the first year Im not supporting the tanking (i actually wanted the team to lose as many games as possibly since 2012-13). How many draft picks do we need? Isnt big our core? If RJ is that good we dont Have the assets to trade for top 3 draft pick imo, unless the magic trades 1 or 2 big members because those are the players which fits the hawks,bulls,suns,cavs bulls and even twolves rebuilding. I do believe intensity and the competitive willing improves the development of young players and a whole lotta aspects of the team. And i do believe on this core. I do think if the team is high on this draft class they should trade vuc, ross, simmons, even fournier and going full tank mode and then try to draft or tradr for RJ, But we all know thats not going to happen the front office didnt do it before why would they do it Now? Just cause RDV isnt with us anymore? I dont believe it. So are you willing to trade 1 big member and future assets or 2 members for this guy? OKC pick always comes with the trade discusses on this forum But we all know it doesnt move the needle.

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Re: RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems? 

Post#22 » by Furinkazan » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:57 am

UCFJayBird wrote:Us: "We'll literally give you anything you want."

Them: "Hmmm....Give us your 1st, OKC 1st, future 1st, Isaac, Gordon, Bamba..."

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Post#23 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:43 pm

2 of BIG and this years 1st may get Barrett or Zion. Probably best way to obtain a superstar talent than pray that one of BIG develops into an All-Star. Because, I haven't see BIG do nearly as good as any Superstar has already done when they were their age. Thus, don't think they will become superstars, just solid players with All-Star Potential.
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Re: RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems? 

Post#24 » by GatorbaitDD » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:47 pm

Clearly any and everyone on the roster would be available to deal for him
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Re: RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems? 

Post#25 » by Nemesis21 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:59 pm

rusoopE wrote:No into this draft class yet. Is this guy RJ that good? This is the first year Im not supporting the tanking (i actually wanted the team to lose as many games as possibly since 2012-13). How many draft picks do we need? Isnt big our core? If RJ is that good we dont Have the assets to trade for top 3 draft pick imo, unless the magic trades 1 or 2 big members because those are the players which fits the hawks,bulls,suns,cavs bulls and even twolves rebuilding. I do believe intensity and the competitive willing improves the development of young players and a whole lotta aspects of the team. And i do believe on this core. I do think if the team is high on this draft class they should trade vuc, ross, simmons, even fournier and going full tank mode and then try to draft or tradr for RJ, But we all know thats not going to happen the front office didnt do it before why would they do it Now? Just cause RDV isnt with us anymore? I dont believe it. So are you willing to trade 1 big member and future assets or 2 members for this guy? OKC pick always comes with the trade discusses on this forum But we all know it doesnt move the needle.

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Post#26 » by Blue_and_Whte » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:23 pm

Nobody on this team should be untouchable. JI is close.

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Re: RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems? 

Post#27 » by pepe1991 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:52 pm

I'm not that high on any 2019 prospect
Williamson shoots 15% for 3, guy is beyond terrible and still,after all ,he is 6'6 center

Barrett to my taste shoots WAAAY too much for somebody who isn't even that great of a shooter to being with.
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Re: RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems? 

Post#28 » by Nemesis21 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:33 pm

pepe1991 wrote:I'm not that high on any 2019 prospect
Williamson shoots 15% for 3, guy is beyond terrible and still,after all ,he is 6'6 center

Barrett to my taste shoots WAAAY too much for somebody who isn't even that great of a shooter to being with.



So is Draymond Green, he's shooting 19% from 3 this season and a career 31% from 3.
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Re: RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems? 

Post#29 » by pepe1991 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:48 pm

Nemesis21 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:I'm not that high on any 2019 prospect
Williamson shoots 15% for 3, guy is beyond terrible and still,after all ,he is 6'6 center

Barrett to my taste shoots WAAAY too much for somebody who isn't even that great of a shooter to being with.



So is Draymond Green, he's shooting 19% from 3 this season and a career 31% from 3.


Draymond has been disaster this year for Warriors . They pretty much win despite him.
And i don't think Williamson will be that good of a defender.
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Post#30 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 6:34 pm

2019 first, future protected first and two members of BIG in exchange for RJ + a vet big man.

Let’s say Zion goes #1 and the Suns (with Booker in place) have the #2 pick.

Would we do AG + Isaac + 2 firsts for Barrett and Ryan Anderson (1 more year at $21M)?

We have to find a PG in free agency (or hope we got one mid season with a Vuc deal) and then gamble our future on RJ + Bamba.

Is that too much? Or is RJ THAT good?
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Post#31 » by tiderulz » Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:16 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:2019 first, future protected first and two members of BIG in exchange for RJ + a vet big man.

Let’s say Zion goes #1 and the Suns (with Booker in place) have the #2 pick.

Would we do AG + Isaac + 2 firsts for Barrett and Ryan Anderson (1 more year at $21M)?

We have to find a PG in free agency (or hope we got one mid season with a Vuc deal) and then gamble our future on RJ + Bamba.

Is that too much? Or is RJ THAT good?

i dont think RJ is that good to give up that much.
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Post#32 » by VFX » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:23 pm

tiderulz wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:2019 first, future protected first and two members of BIG in exchange for RJ + a vet big man.

Let’s say Zion goes #1 and the Suns (with Booker in place) have the #2 pick.

Would we do AG + Isaac + 2 firsts for Barrett and Ryan Anderson (1 more year at $21M)?

We have to find a PG in free agency (or hope we got one mid season with a Vuc deal) and then gamble our future on RJ + Bamba.

Is that too much? Or is RJ THAT good?

i dont think RJ is that good to give up that much.

I haven’t been as impressed with his game that I thought I would be. Orlando should probably take whoever is the best at generating offense or the most “two way” guard or distributing wing possible.
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Re: RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems? 

Post#33 » by MagicFan101 » Sat Dec 22, 2018 11:34 pm

tiderulz wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:2019 first, future protected first and two members of BIG in exchange for RJ + a vet big man.

Let’s say Zion goes #1 and the Suns (with Booker in place) have the #2 pick.

Would we do AG + Isaac + 2 firsts for Barrett and Ryan Anderson (1 more year at $21M)?

We have to find a PG in free agency (or hope we got one mid season with a Vuc deal) and then gamble our future on RJ + Bamba.

Is that too much? Or is RJ THAT good?

i dont think RJ is that good to give up that much.


I think I agree.

However, Ryno has just 1 year left and this trade gets us out from the AG deal. If we can still grab a PG with the money saved on Vuc / Ross and then his free agency hard the following year when Ryno expires we could have:

PG: 2019 FA (Russell / Rozier?)
SG: RJ
SF: Evan
PF: 2020 FA (Draymond Green! lol)
C: Bamba


I don’t know. It’s a lot to give up but it helps balance the roster, gets us someone more likely to reach stardom than anyone on the roster and opens up cap space.
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Post#34 » by drsd » Sun Dec 23, 2018 3:01 pm

RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems?


Orlando can improve with a modest SG upgrade. But the Magic needs a PG more than a SG. So NO is the answer to this question.
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Post#35 » by MagicFan101 » Sun Dec 23, 2018 7:51 pm

drsd wrote:
RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems?


Orlando can improve with a modest SG upgrade. But the Magic needs a PG more than a SG. So NO is the answer to this question.


We don’t need a PG, SG, SF, PF or C.

We need a franchise changing super star.

Fill in the roster spot gaps around said star.
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Post#36 » by drsd » Mon Dec 24, 2018 3:35 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
drsd wrote:
RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems?


Orlando can improve with a modest SG upgrade. But the Magic needs a PG more than a SG. So NO is the answer to this question.


We don’t need a PG, SG, SF, PF or C.

We need a franchise changing super star.

Fill in the roster spot gaps around said star.


If the Magic sign Walker and luck in to Barrett, the Magic could be very interesting in the 2021/22 season !



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Post#37 » by Skin » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:02 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
drsd wrote:
RJ Barrett: The answer to all our problems?


Orlando can improve with a modest SG upgrade. But the Magic needs a PG more than a SG. So NO is the answer to this question.


We don’t need a PG, SG, SF, PF or C.

We need a franchise changing super star.

Fill in the roster spot gaps around said star.

Let's be honest. If we drafted Barrett, we would bench him behind Fournier and the wise fans among us would defend the move by saying "he's not ready"... "he's too raw"... "we are in win now mode"... "he needs to show it in practice first"... and then have the nerve to say "we ARE developing him properly".

Then we would destroy his confidence, derail his development, he would struggle to fit on our team, dislike playing with this group of players, and then in his final year of his rookie deal, he will ball hog and put up enough stats to get his next big contract... and we'll overpay him without having established a track record of his legitimacy... in hopes he takes the next steps... then when the new year arrives, we'll say "wtf is happening???"
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Post#38 » by MagicFan101 » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:04 pm

Skin wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
drsd wrote:
Orlando can improve with a modest SG upgrade. But the Magic needs a PG more than a SG. So NO is the answer to this question.


We don’t need a PG, SG, SF, PF or C.

We need a franchise changing super star.

Fill in the roster spot gaps around said star.

Let's be honest. If we drafted Barrett, we would bench him behind Fournier and the wise fans among us would defend the move by saying "he's not ready"... "he's too raw"... "we are in win now mode"... "he needs to show it in practice first"... and then have the nerve to say "we ARE developing him properly".

Then we would destroy his confidence, derail his development, he would struggle to fit on our team, dislike playing with this group of players, and then in his final year of his rookie deal, he will ball hog and put up enough stats to get his next big contract... and we'll overpay him without having established a track record of his legitimacy... in hopes he takes the next steps... then when the new year arrives, we'll say "wtf is happening???"


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Post#39 » by Skin » Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:08 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:
Skin wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
We don’t need a PG, SG, SF, PF or C.

We need a franchise changing super star.

Fill in the roster spot gaps around said star.

Let's be honest. If we drafted Barrett, we would bench him behind Fournier and the wise fans among us would defend the move by saying "he's not ready"... "he's too raw"... "we are in win now mode"... "he needs to show it in practice first"... and then have the nerve to say "we ARE developing him properly".

Then we would destroy his confidence, derail his development, he would struggle to fit on our team, dislike playing with this group of players, and then in his final year of his rookie deal, he will ball hog and put up enough stats to get his next big contract... and we'll overpay him without having established a track record of his legitimacy... in hopes he takes the next steps... then when the new year arrives, we'll say "wtf is happening???"


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