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Re: Current trade value of everyone 

Post#21 » by p0peye » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:42 pm

gobullschi wrote:Bulls fan here. Was exploring trade down scenarios if the Bulls happen to get the third pick and miss out on Zion and Ja Morant.

What is everyone's opinion on Aaron Gordon? Does Jonothan Isaac make him expendable?

Orlando Receives:
#3
2020 1st (lottert protected)
Kris Dunn
Cristiano Felicio

Chicago Receives:
Aaron Gordon
#9

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Interesting proposal. I don't watch Bulls games really, and looking at Dunn's stats it all seems very similar to Elfrid Payton, whom we gave away for 2nd round pick. Aaron has better contract, but I'd be willing to do simpler trade: AG+9 for LaVine+3.
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Re: Current trade value of everyone 

Post#22 » by The Effect » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:46 pm

Im guessing my trade values will differ from most here but

1 - Gordon - Nearly untouchable if im the GM. I not only think hes our best player, but still has a ton of room to grow as a player. Would take a pretty big offer
2 - Fultz - I know we got him fairly cheap and thus his trade value isnt very high, but i think it really is a medical thing, and if that gets fixed, he will be our best player. wouldnt trade him unless get a crazy offer (and we wouldnt, so basically off the market for me)
3 - Bamba - Hasnt been great this year, but the flashes make him one of our best prospects. I think if he gets his weight up a little and gets some real fire\motivation to be great, he will be our best. He needs a little more Embiid attitude. He would be available for trade, but wouldnt come cheap to me
4 - Isaac - Still not as high on him and dont see the offensive game coming to him outside of his great off ball cuts\hustle plays. If i was the GM, he would be available for the right price, which would have to include a starter and a lotto pick
5 - Evan Fournier - Unlike most, i dont see his contract being bad. 17m doesnt seem that bad these days with how crazy some guys are getting paid, hell mozgov is making the same and hes horrible and worthless, atleast evan is a starting caliber SG in an era that doesnt have alot of great SG. Not sure what i would want in return for him, but he would be available for trade for the right offer
6 - 2019 1st rounder - I see us making a push this year and thus this will be a mid 1st, not great in a weak draft
7 - 2020 1st - I see us as a playoff team this year, and if not, def see us making it next year, not a great spot for draft picks. Would trade this pick for a starting caliber G, depending on what happens with Fultz

Everyone else would be available
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Re: Current trade value of everyone 

Post#23 » by Def Swami » Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:48 pm

Fultz just got traded for Simmons and a late 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick, so that's kind of his trade value at the moment. I'd rate Isaac, Bamba, Gordon, the 2019 FRP, 2020 FRP, and Fournier as higher in value at the moment.
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Re: Current trade value of everyone 

Post#24 » by p0peye » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:05 pm

Def Swami wrote:Fultz just got traded for Simmons and a late 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick, so that's kind of his trade value at the moment. I'd rate Isaac, Bamba, Gordon, the 2019 FRP, 2020 FRP, and Fournier as higher in value at the moment.


At this exact moment, being traded immediately after been acquired, Fultz would most probably fetch less than what we invested.
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Re: Current trade value of everyone 

Post#25 » by gobullschi » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:16 pm

p0peye wrote:
gobullschi wrote:Bulls fan here. Was exploring trade down scenarios if the Bulls happen to get the third pick and miss out on Zion and Ja Morant.

What is everyone's opinion on Aaron Gordon? Does Jonothan Isaac make him expendable?

Orlando Receives:
#3
2020 1st (lottert protected)
Kris Dunn
Cristiano Felicio

Chicago Receives:
Aaron Gordon
#9

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Interesting proposal. I don't watch Bulls games really, and looking at Dunn's stats it all seems very similar to Elfrid Payton, whom we gave away for 2nd round pick. Aaron has better contract, but I'd be willing to do simpler trade: AG+9 for LaVine+3.
Dunn has better physical tools than Elfrid Payton and more upside, but he has been wildly inconsistent ever since his nasty fall. We are all hoping he can recover from that mentally. Here is the link if you haven't seen it: https://youtu.be/q67TJbz8Mrc

The Bulls board is split on LaVine. I wouldn't do that deal because I'm a believer in LaVine. Would be my luck since I have his jersey!

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Re: Current trade value of everyone 

Post#26 » by tiderulz » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:41 pm

gobullschi wrote:
p0peye wrote:
gobullschi wrote:Bulls fan here. Was exploring trade down scenarios if the Bulls happen to get the third pick and miss out on Zion and Ja Morant.

What is everyone's opinion on Aaron Gordon? Does Jonothan Isaac make him expendable?

Orlando Receives:
#3
2020 1st (lottert protected)
Kris Dunn
Cristiano Felicio

Chicago Receives:
Aaron Gordon
#9

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Interesting proposal. I don't watch Bulls games really, and looking at Dunn's stats it all seems very similar to Elfrid Payton, whom we gave away for 2nd round pick. Aaron has better contract, but I'd be willing to do simpler trade: AG+9 for LaVine+3.
Dunn has better physical tools than Elfrid Payton and more upside, but he has been wildly inconsistent ever since his nasty fall. We are all hoping he can recover from that mentally. Here is the link if you haven't seen it: https://youtu.be/q67TJbz8Mrc

The Bulls board is split on LaVine. I wouldn't do that deal because I'm a believer in LaVine. Would be my luck since I have his jersey!

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Re: Current trade value of everyone 

Post#27 » by Xatticus » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:05 pm

In order:
Isaac - Very High - solid contributor on rookie scale with high upside
Gordon - Positive - solid contributor locked into reasonable contract with some potential to improve
Bamba - Positive - negative contributor on rookie scale with high upside
Fultz - Moderately Positive - non-contributor on expensive rookie scale deal with significant injury concerns and high upside
Iwundu - Slightly Positive - end of rotation option on inexpensive contract with some potential to improve
Briscoe - Slightly Positive - end of rotation option on inexpensive contract with some potential to improve
Frazier - Slightly Positive - non-contributor on inexpensive contract with some potential to improve
Birch - Slightly Positive - end of rotation option on inexpensive contract with little room to improve
Augustin - Neutral - aging veteran bench option with one year remaining on contract
Vucevic - None - impending free agent
Ross - None - impending free agent
Grant - None - will be renounced
Martin - None - will be renounced
Fournier - Negative - bench contributor on expensive contract
Mozgov - Very Negative - non-contributor on expensive contract
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Re: Current trade value of everyone 

Post#28 » by Ducklett » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:40 pm

Mamba4Goat wrote:Hi guys,

Over at the TnT board we often run into a few problems when Magic trades are offered up. Usually a trade can be offered and non-Magic fans can all agree, however, the fans that roam the board usually disagree, then don't provide a counter offer or state how much they value their guy. So I'm just curious to poll the board. Which pick/player would you reasonably expect for everyone? I know that it's silly to contemplate trading half of these guys as their key pieces, developing, etc. but humor me, please. If you guys want, i can say where I value everyone too after a few posts.

Thanks guys!


Washington:
#3 (via Chicago)
Kris Dunn
DJ Augustin
Cristiano Felicio

Orlando:
John Wall
2020 1st (via Chicago - lottery protected)

Chicago:
Aaron Gordon
#9


Orlando trades: Aaron Gordon
Brooklyn trades: D'Angelo Russell



To Orlando
-Andrew Wiggins (4 years, $122.2 million)
-2022 1st round pick (lottery protected; 2023 lottery protected; 2024 lottery protected or 2024 + 2025 2nds)

To Minnesota
-Evan Fournier (2 years, $34 million)
-Timofey Mozgov (1 year, $16.7 million)



Those are the last three trades I could find on the T&T board and the only one of equal value is for a player we could just sign if we wanted this off season. When you see trade after trade of that kind of one-sided value against the Magic, you are going to get a lot of people posting negatively.
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Re: Current trade value of everyone 

Post#29 » by NotACat » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:45 pm

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Mamba4Goat wrote:Hi guys,

Over at the TnT board we often run into a few problems when Magic trades are offered up. Usually a trade can be offered and non-Magic fans can all agree, however, the fans that roam the board usually disagree, then don't provide a counter offer or state how much they value their guy. So I'm just curious to poll the board. Which pick/player would you reasonably expect for everyone? I know that it's silly to contemplate trading half of these guys as their key pieces, developing, etc. but humor me, please. If you guys want, i can say where I value everyone too after a few posts.

Thanks guys!


Washington:
#3 (via Chicago)
Kris Dunn
DJ Augustin
Cristiano Felicio

Orlando:
John Wall
2020 1st (via Chicago - lottery protected)

Chicago:
Aaron Gordon
#9


Orlando trades: Aaron Gordon
Brooklyn trades: D'Angelo Russell



To Orlando
-Andrew Wiggins (4 years, $122.2 million)
-2022 1st round pick (lottery protected; 2023 lottery protected; 2024 lottery protected or 2024 + 2025 2nds)

To Minnesota
-Evan Fournier (2 years, $34 million)
-Timofey Mozgov (1 year, $16.7 million)



Those are the last three trades I could find on the T&T board and the only one of equal value is for a player we could just sign if we wanted this off season. When you see trade after trade of that kind of one-sided value against the Magic, you are going to get a lot of people posting negatively.

Easiest no ever to Wiggins or John Wall. I don't see the D'Lo trade happening, not only because we have Fultz now, but also because I don't see Brooklyn moving him
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Re: Current trade value of everyone 

Post#30 » by tiderulz » Thu Feb 21, 2019 12:58 am

Ducklett wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:Hi guys,

Over at the TnT board we often run into a few problems when Magic trades are offered up. Usually a trade can be offered and non-Magic fans can all agree, however, the fans that roam the board usually disagree, then don't provide a counter offer or state how much they value their guy. So I'm just curious to poll the board. Which pick/player would you reasonably expect for everyone? I know that it's silly to contemplate trading half of these guys as their key pieces, developing, etc. but humor me, please. If you guys want, i can say where I value everyone too after a few posts.

Thanks guys!


Washington:
#3 (via Chicago)
Kris Dunn
DJ Augustin
Cristiano Felicio

Orlando:
John Wall
2020 1st (via Chicago - lottery protected)

Chicago:
Aaron Gordon
#9


Orlando trades: Aaron Gordon
Brooklyn trades: D'Angelo Russell



To Orlando
-Andrew Wiggins (4 years, $122.2 million)
-2022 1st round pick (lottery protected; 2023 lottery protected; 2024 lottery protected or 2024 + 2025 2nds)

To Minnesota
-Evan Fournier (2 years, $34 million)
-Timofey Mozgov (1 year, $16.7 million)



Those are the last three trades I could find on the T&T board and the only one of equal value is for a player we could just sign if we wanted this off season. When you see trade after trade of that kind of one-sided value against the Magic, you are going to get a lot of people posting negatively.

ehh, the AG/Russell trade isnt bad. and if someone was willing to take a chance on Wiggins, that one isnt that bad either (not great, but not that bad), though i couldnt take that chance with his contract.
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Re: Current trade value of everyone 

Post#31 » by OrlandoMagic » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:57 am

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
drsd wrote:Briscoe's value is climbing.


and both Iwundu/Birch.


That’s what usually happens when coaches actually let players on the bench play. Some take the chance to shine and others take it and throw it away like garbage. Hopefully Clifford sees all this and keeps giving them the minutes they deserve even down the final stretch of the season. We have to give these type of guys more experience than 5-7 minutes a game especially for a playoff push. Keep up the good work Coach!

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