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Is it time to go all in?

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All in or stay the course

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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#21 » by MagicFan101 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 5:58 pm

Skin wrote:Stay the course. Our real ability to become a contender hinges on Isaac, Bamba, Fultz and Okeke coming to fruition. If and when they do, THEN we make a push.

Vuc, Fournier, Ross, Aminu.... the are just transitional placeholders to ensure that we remain playoff worthy.


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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#22 » by ezzzp » Mon Jul 8, 2019 6:12 pm

Stay the course.

We finally have a Magic FO that is making solid asset retention and accumulation moves while utilizing their cap wisely to maximize that. We now have a FO that understands how to develop young players correctly by doing it in a competitive winning context.

There is no need to cash in those assets yet. The core still needs at least another season and one more playoff run under their belt. If a really good opportunity arises before that, then fine...BUT otherwise they need to stay patient and strike when its for the right player.

Westbrook isn't that guy, his age/contract/injury history are giant red flags...he's a John Wall scenario in-the-making...let Miami or Detroit go all in for 1-2 years and then watch them face the disaster of his contract destroy them...all timed just as Magic are beginning their ascent in that same time span.
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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#23 » by OrlandO » Mon Jul 8, 2019 11:19 pm

But what does going all in mean to you? What is the most you are willing to give up to get Westbrook?
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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#24 » by Hogified05 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 11:35 pm

Stay the course. Unless Beal becomes available and we could get him for Bamba and Evan. Upgrading Beal from Evan and a hopefully competent Fultz makes us a contender in the East this year. Top 3 seed IMO. I would also do it for Tatum if he became available, i'm so high on him. And to a lesser extent Brown or Hayward. But I think Boston will be pretty damn good this year with all the egos gone. Actually let me list who I'd go all in for. And by all in I mean Evan+Bamba and maybe a 1st, possibly AG instead of Evan, but i'd prefer to keep AG.

Beal (This is the wet dream)
Tatum
Booker (Gotta imagine he is going request a trade soon if they don't start winning)
McCollum (maybe)

I doubt Tatum and CJ actually become available but I feel like Booker and Beal could be if their teams start out rough. Fingers and toes for Beal though.
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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#25 » by overtheborder » Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:21 pm

To answer the OP, I'd say be constantly improving things in a gradual sense. Processes, individual player talents, backroom infrastructure. Doesn't have to be big name signings, can include them, make the big signing if it helps genuinely improve the team, but what matters is that improvements, large or small, are constantly being made.
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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#26 » by Dmagic » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:23 am

I think we did go all in
on our roster to stay the same
We have depth now and should have more drive with that taste of playoffs
Im going to have Vooches back and hope he can bounce back and show a little more grit this year after his embarrassment
Im going to hope that Fournier plays better defense
Im going to hope the AG really has a breakout year which i honestly believe he will
and the rest of the crew will show up--especially cant wait for birch to come in for most improved or sixth man
ANd yes yall--Markelle is going to show out..He is going to be so awesome..we are going to make a deep run this year I **** know it
not trying to jinx us..but I can see us going to the finals...like seriously
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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#27 » by Bensational » Fri Jul 12, 2019 9:00 am

We gotta stay the course until someone emerges as a true centrepiece. Someone has to perform even better than Vuc did last season, and be able to close games - then we'll have something to go all in on.
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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#28 » by Message Boar » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:40 pm

I went with stay the course. Mostly because of the lack of appealing all-in options available to us currently. At some point we will need to find a star (a top ~10 player in the league), be it by making a big move or be it by tearing it down and trying our luck in the lottery (or getting extremely lucky in other parts of the draft). But it isn't that time yet. Let's just keep building continuity and respectability for now.

So basically I have the same train of thought most of the people in this thread seem to have.
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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#29 » by drsd » Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:59 am

What if "Stay the course" is the "All in"?

I believe in this roster!


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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#30 » by JF5 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 4:40 pm

They have to go "all in" after this upcoming season. Issac is due to extend *which will come with a hefty price* and they've already given Vucevic a hefty contract and if Fultz plays well he'll get paid as well. So the next off season they have to make some moves to put themselves in a position of being an upper echelon team not necessarily a contender.
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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#31 » by pepe1991 » Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:12 pm

JF5 wrote:They have to go "all in" after this upcoming season. Issac is due to extend *which will come with a hefty price* and they've already given Vucevic a hefty contract and if Fultz plays well he'll get paid as well. So the next off season they have to make some moves to put themselves in a position of being an upper echelon team not necessarily a contender.


Based on performance, i just don't see reason why to break bank for Isaac.
He could get " see, we like you " type of 4 years $50-60M deal but even that's a bit overpay.
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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#32 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:37 am

pepe1991 wrote:
JF5 wrote:They have to go "all in" after this upcoming season. Issac is due to extend *which will come with a hefty price* and they've already given Vucevic a hefty contract and if Fultz plays well he'll get paid as well. So the next off season they have to make some moves to put themselves in a position of being an upper echelon team not necessarily a contender.


Based on performance, i just don't see reason why to break bank for Isaac.
He could get " see, we like you " type of 4 years $50-60M deal but even that's a bit overpay.


I think he gets closer to the AG level deal.
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Re: Is it time to go all in? 

Post#33 » by spinedoc » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:41 pm

Bensational wrote:We gotta stay the course until someone emerges as a true centrepiece. Someone has to perform even better than Vuc did last season, and be able to close games - then we'll have something to go all in on.


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