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zaymon wrote:Its easy to see our young talent (including AG, excluding Fultz) is limited offensively, very good role players. Its impressive our veterans dragged them into the playoffs. I get why Weltman is so excited about Okeke, he has some offensive talent. We need some developmental miracle or trade.
BadMofoPimp wrote:Durant thinks Vooch is one of the Best Centers in the NBA. I will take his word over a couch-GM yelling at a TV.
I think it's more that they had no legs than missing Vuc.pepe1991 wrote:Spoiler alert:
Real reason why Magic players looking bad without Vučević and Ross is...
They are simply limited offensive players that lack advanced passing, shooting and BBIQ to be better.
This team in two games in a row, in freaking preseason, couldn't score 10 points in first 8 min. That's bottom of the bottoms.
basketballRob wrote:I think it's more that they had no legs than missing Vuc.pepe1991 wrote:Spoiler alert:
Real reason why Magic players looking bad without Vučević and Ross is...
They are simply limited offensive players that lack advanced passing, shooting and BBIQ to be better.
This team in two games in a row, in freaking preseason, couldn't score 10 points in first 8 min. That's bottom of the bottoms.
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zaymon wrote:Its easy to see our young talent (including AG, excluding Fultz) is limited offensively, very good role players. Its impressive our veterans dragged them into the playoffs. I get why Weltman is so excited about Okeke, he has some offensive talent. We need some developmental miracle or trade.
basketballRob wrote:I think it's more that they had no legs than missing Vuc.pepe1991 wrote:Spoiler alert:
Real reason why Magic players looking bad without Vučević and Ross is...
They are simply limited offensive players that lack advanced passing, shooting and BBIQ to be better.
This team in two games in a row, in freaking preseason, couldn't score 10 points in first 8 min. That's bottom of the bottoms.
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Ducklett wrote:I agree with pepe and Rainwater. We should trade Isaac, Bamba, AG, and Fultz for as many overaged, washed up vets as we can.
i think its better to gauge the development of our youth against our a top team like the 6ers on a non-bearing game. I think it shows where we are as a team if we decide to move on from Evan, Vuc and Ross.tiderulz wrote:fendilim wrote:pepe1991 wrote:Gordon is player that simply isn't as talented as lot of people, including posters here and he, himself thinks he is.
And when you combine his lack of natural instintcs, lack of natural shooting touch with whole summer long of workouts with one of the most talented player in history ( Kobe) you get player that tries to post up players he could easly just blow by and takes some of most laughable shots you can take , and ofc, never draws any FTs because he just tries to memo what Kobe told him instad of reacting to situation.
That's why working with "legends" is usless for vast majority of players. Players who work with them can teach some of their movies but new guys never understand when to use them. Copy past same was with Howard and Hakeem. Where Howard would get memo how to execute it, he literally NEVER did it in proper situation. Guy tried to roll off his shoulder and traveled like 4000000 times in his career.
As for rest of a game, this team would be instant 1# pick contender without Vučević and Ross.
I don't want to talk too much about younger players but Isaac , to me, shows zero improvments on offense.
sitting out our key guys in preseason, even for just one game, is a nice idea. It helps us gauge where our young guys are at the moment of their career and see if they have developed or not.
ehh, i disagree. That is where you have practice and spots in games throughout the season. Its not like we were a top-3 seed last year so everything is fine with the team and vets. We were 2 losses from being out of the playoffs. The season starts in 9 days, and we are seeing the same things from players that we have seen for years
pepe1991 wrote:
Some coaches make them run more than others. I remember getting off to hot shooting nights with Vogel and then fading as the season went on. It's the opposite with Cliff.pepe1991 wrote:basketballRob wrote:I think it's more that they had no legs than missing Vuc.pepe1991 wrote:Spoiler alert:
Real reason why Magic players looking bad without Vučević and Ross is...
They are simply limited offensive players that lack advanced passing, shooting and BBIQ to be better.
This team in two games in a row, in freaking preseason, couldn't score 10 points in first 8 min. That's bottom of the bottoms.
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Because other teams don't practice?
So okay if Vuc played we would've made more of the wide open shots.Blue_and_Whte wrote:basketballRob wrote:I think it's more that they had no legs than missing Vuc.pepe1991 wrote:Spoiler alert:
Real reason why Magic players looking bad without Vučević and Ross is...
They are simply limited offensive players that lack advanced passing, shooting and BBIQ to be better.
This team in two games in a row, in freaking preseason, couldn't score 10 points in first 8 min. That's bottom of the bottoms.
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The lengths that you go to invent excuses so as not to admit that Vuc is our best player is absolutely breathtaking. holy sh**
Yeah he had an impressive stat line last game. What was it? 3 pts 2 rebs 4 TO's 4 fouls in 19 minutes.Blue_and_Whte wrote:pepe1991 wrote:
What’s the over/under Birch starts getting The backup minutes as we make our playoff push?