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Magic apply to have Timofey Mozgov Removed From Cap

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Re: Magic apply to have Timofey Mozgov Removed From Cap 

Post#21 » by MoMM » Sat Oct 26, 2019 4:46 pm

nymets1 wrote:
MoMM wrote:NBA didn't accept Wizards asking for Wall's injury exception, will they accept Moz? Not very likely, IMO, but maybe next season or so.

How did it work for Chris Bosh? Does anyone remember?


John Wall didn't get signed by an overseas team. He's fully committed to the NBA unlike Mozgov. Those are 2 totally different cases.

So it's even harder, because Mozgov didn't retire from bball.
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Re: Magic apply to have Timofey Mozgov Removed From Cap 

Post#22 » by ezzzp » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:08 pm

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MoMM wrote:NBA didn't accept Wizards asking for Wall's injury exception, will they accept Moz? Not very likely, IMO, but maybe next season or so.

How did it work for Chris Bosh? Does anyone remember?


John Wall didn't get signed by an overseas team. He's fully committed to the NBA unlike Mozgov. Those are 2 totally different cases.

So it's even harder, because Mozgov didn't retire from bball.


I think its easier. The rule is that the player's injury or illness stops him from playing at an "NBA level for the remainder of his career," not wether he can play professional basketball in an inferior talent level league. The question with Wall is will he be a franchise caliber supermax level player after the injury, but I don't think anyone thinks he'll be below the NBA talent line when he returns.

The question the NBA/NBPA will have to make was wether Mozgov's knee injury ended his NBA (not basketball) career, and if that injury occurred or was first diagnosed in Orlando.

Mozgov played 31 games for Brooklyn in 17-18, including the final 82nd game of the season on April 11, 2018. Post-trade in Orlando he was listed as active for at least one preseason game of the 18-19 season. That's evidence that the injury occurred or was first diagnosed while on the Magic.

That he is not on Khimki's roster, insinuates that he is still not healthy or that his recovered level of play was not enough to make a EuroLeague roster. Both cases favor the Magic's argument that his injury ended his ability to perform at an NBA level ever again.

The Magic have a good case, but the NBA/NBPA could merely reject it so as to not set a precedent.
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Re: Magic apply to have Timofey Mozgov Removed From Cap 

Post#23 » by drsd » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:15 pm

ezzzp wrote:The Magic have a good case, but the NBA/NBPA could merely reject it so as to not set a precedent.


Mozgov needs to be examined by an NBA-approved medical team. Why would he agree to do that?


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Re: Magic apply to have Timofey Mozgov Removed From Cap 

Post#24 » by ezzzp » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:19 pm

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ezzzp wrote:The Magic have a good case, but the NBA/NBPA could merely reject it so as to not set a precedent.


Mozgov needs to be examined by an NBA-approved medical team. Why would he agree to do that?


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why wouldn't he?
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Re: Magic apply to have Timofey Mozgov Removed From Cap 

Post#25 » by BadMofoPimp » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:43 pm

If Mozgoz is healthy enough to play professional overseas, then I can't see how the NBA will be deemed unhealthy. Magic should have applied before they cut him.
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Re: Magic apply to have Timofey Mozgov Removed From Cap 

Post#26 » by ezzzp » Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:56 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:If Mozgoz is healthy enough to play professional overseas, then I can't see how the NBA will be deemed unhealthy. Magic should have applied before they cut him.


The Magic had to wait a year from his last "active list" game to apply, so they applied at correct time.

Mozgov isn't playing overseas, he signed a contract but has never played because of the knee injury and is not on that team's roster anymore.
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Re: Magic apply to have Timofey Mozgov Removed From Cap 

Post#27 » by Message Boar » Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:32 pm

So does anyone have any idea what the timeline is for a decision on this matter?
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Re: Magic apply to have Timofey Mozgov Removed From Cap 

Post#28 » by Knightro » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:41 pm

This wouldn't be a huge factor for this year or next year, but could potentially have an impact on the summer of 2021.

The Magic right now only have 58.4M in guaranteed salaries for 2021-2022. That number will go up as they decide what to do with Fultz, Isaac and Bamba, but shedding Mozgov's 5.57M could potentially be helpful to a free agent chase that summer.
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Re: Magic apply to have Timofey Mozgov Removed From Cap 

Post#29 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:43 pm

Message Boar wrote:So does anyone have any idea what the timeline is for a decision on this matter?


Wasn't John Walls declined like almost immediately? Maybe different situation?

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