Regular Season Game 11: Philadelphia 76ers (7-3) v. Orlando Magic (3-7) - 7pm ET

[J-Mezzy]

Finally looked like last year's team. Best game of the season

[yoyojw17]

Magic have now scored over 100 in the last 4 games. I'll take that as a positive sign. Vooch looks to be back to form at the moment. And Ross is shooting much better. Isaac is getting more usage which is great.

I thought last night's game was clearly the team's best of the season so far, by far. Especially in the 4th quarter. Philly, even without Embiid, is a really good team. Them being on a b2b helped of course, but it was nice to see our guys pull it out in the end as they should've. Could be a turning point to get this thing back on track if they can win out this home stand.

That isaac turn around jumper is gonna come in handy! I got excited when he nailed those two shots.

[TheChaser]

It was definitely a solid win. I’m starting to agree with Pepe on Bamba though. It was a weird pick and still is to this day. Sometimes I think he’s turning the corner, and then he disappears. Maybe he should listen to his song more and get hyped because he looks like a child that takes Adderall.

[basketballRob]

It was definitely a solid win. I’m starting to agree with Pepe on Bamba though. It was a weird pick and still is to this day. Sometimes I think he’s turning the corner, and then he disappears. Maybe he should listen to his song more and get hyped because he looks like a child that takes Adderall.

He's coming back from a stress fracture that's still sore. The pain from stress fractures are known to make you tired.

Silly to be really critical of a player coming back from an injury

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[TheChaser]

It was definitely a solid win. I’m starting to agree with Pepe on Bamba though. It was a weird pick and still is to this day. Sometimes I think he’s turning the corner, and then he disappears. Maybe he should listen to his song more and get hyped because he looks like a child that takes Adderall.

He's coming back from a stress fracture that's still sore. The pain from stress fractures are known to make you tired.

Silly to be really critical of a player coming back from an injury

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I’m not being hyper critical. I’m just stating that it was a strange pick for us. I like the kid, and I’m not even really attacking anything physically. It’s his demeanor and motor that worry me. I’m not discounting the pain that goes along with a stress fracture.

[magicman112]

It was definitely a solid win. I’m starting to agree with Pepe on Bamba though. It was a weird pick and still is to this day. Sometimes I think he’s turning the corner, and then he disappears. Maybe he should listen to his song more and get hyped because he looks like a child that takes Adderall.

This is still technically his rookie year since he missed the 2nd half of last season much like how it was with Isaac. Hopefully he can play a full season and see how he comes along.

[zaymon]

It was definitely a solid win. I’m starting to agree with Pepe on Bamba though. It was a weird pick and still is to this day. Sometimes I think he’s turning the corner, and then he disappears. Maybe he should listen to his song more and get hyped because he looks like a child that takes Adderall.

This is still technically his rookie year since he missed the 2nd half of last season much like how it was with Isaac. Hopefully he can play a full season and see how he comes along.

Isaac was really impressive his rookie year when he was healthy. Our good start ended when he was injured. Bamba looks worse than Hezonja.

[PrimeThyme]

Isaac was really impressive his rookie year when he was healthy. Our good start ended when he was injured. Bamba looks worse than Hezonja.

&& that's my issue when I see people compare Isaac and Bamba's situation. Raw rail-thin Isaac was a straight-up impact defender for us from day one in this league. You knew he was raw and was going to have to develop offensively, but from day 1 you already saw the path for him to become a really effective player for this team with his defensive instincts.

I really havent seen evidence that Bamba is going to become an effective player on either side of the court. Similar to the excuses we used to make for Hezonja, all the tools are there but the impact and all the intangible stuff just isn't. Unfortunately.

[Blue_and_Whte]

Rudy Gobert isn't just rim protector, he defends both weak and strong side by himself. Right now Jazz play pretty much PG, SG, SF,SF and SF along side him and mantain elite defense.

He also defends pick&pops better than pretty much any C in nba.

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Bamba is just flat footed and lacks speed or agility already. Adding more weight will just make hims slower.

Also in second year playing 26 mpg Gobert was already pulling 10 RPGs and 2,3 bpgs with 60% FG.
Bamba still thinks he is shooter.

Anyone that thinks Bamba will be even remotely close to Gobert lives in a fantasy world. We would’ve seen flashes of elite defense by now. You can’t teach instinct and he doesn’t have it.

[Optimus_Steel]

He reminds me Hezonja on defense, and even worse on offense. I hope his work ethic is better than advertised becouse he has a lot to learn.

Sadly he is slightly better than Mario on offense.

[basketballRob]

It was definitely a solid win. I’m starting to agree with Pepe on Bamba though. It was a weird pick and still is to this day. Sometimes I think he’s turning the corner, and then he disappears. Maybe he should listen to his song more and get hyped because he looks like a child that takes Adderall.

This is still technically his rookie year since he missed the 2nd half of last season much like how it was with Isaac. Hopefully he can play a full season and see how he comes along.

Isaac was really impressive his rookie year when he was healthy. Our good start ended when he was injured. Bamba looks worse than Hezonja.

Bamba looked good early this year before he started having soreness in the leg that he had a stress fracture in. Hopefully he can overcome the injuries like Isaac did

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[TheChaser]

This is still technically his rookie year since he missed the 2nd half of last season much like how it was with Isaac. Hopefully he can play a full season and see how he comes along.

Isaac was really impressive his rookie year when he was healthy. Our good start ended when he was injured. Bamba looks worse than Hezonja.

Bamba looked good early this year before he started having soreness in the leg that he had a stress fracture in. Hopefully he can overcome the injuries like Isaac did

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Absolutely agree. I thought he played pretty well early on too.

[magicman112]

The thing with Bamba is at this stage the team isn't dependent on his production. All he needs to do right now is come in block some shots, rebound the ball, get points in putbacks and dunks and knock down a few 3s if he can. That's it.

[FFBlitzace]

And I think too much is made of Bamba putting his hands on his hips. It's just a habit thing during stoppages, it doesn't actually mean anything. I stand with my hands on my hips a lot without being winded or tired.

[Optimus_Steel]

Rewatched the 2nd half:

-DJ kept us afloat when the team was in a drought. If not we prob don't win this one.

-That MCW flagrant was ridiculous and they reviewed it and still inexplicably gave him the flagrant. Was a 4pt possession but could have been a disastrous 7pt possession if that 3 by Horford would have gone in. Could have costs us the game with the momentum shift.

-I know Tobias is in a slump and plays much better than this but $180M..........not a difference maker but gets $180M wow.

-JI looked impressive with the 2 turn around buckets.

[SOUL]

And I think too much is made of Bamba putting his hands on his hips. It's just a habit thing during stoppages, it doesn't actually mean anything. I stand with my hands on my hips a lot without being winded or tired.

People confuse disposition with in-game qualities like effort, IMO. I remember McGrady aesthetically having a smooth game, but he often got criticized as well because it wasn't as intense as, say, Kobe, or a tornado like Manu, so he made things look "easy" but some people took that as him being lazy and not exerting as much on the court.

Motor and effort are overused phrases to me, personally. I don't think Bamba is tired when he has his hands on his hips 2 mins in, while on the free throw line. More like when he's played 7-8 minutes straight and is obviously a step slow or something. Most of the players players we've signed have earnestly tried, except the veterans on 1 year deals or on the way out (BBD, Jeff Green, Ben Gordon, etc).

It's all about conditioning and strength, and obviously the little things like being in the right places, or how to get away with certain little tactics that give you an advantage. There are obviously scenarios where you just have to want it more than others, but it's selective and in random parts of the game, ie, diving on the floor for the ball, or true 50/50 scenarios. If some of these plays were as easy as we think they are, trust me, it would be done by our guys.

In Bamba's case, his conditioning is still not very good. He still gets lost and pushed around, but I don't think it's for lack of trying. The skill and conditioning is not there yet. Will it ever get there? Who knows, but hopefully he gets the chances to figure it out so even if he does bust, we exhausted all opportunity.

Most people would want a big like prime Faried or Harrell that seemingly never gets tired and is always battling, but those players are not easy to come by either, which again, makes no sense to me that people are advocating benching a young big just because he's not performing up to expectations yet. It's not like he's getting handed a starting role out there. He's playing 14 minutes a game usually and has a decent net rating even though his numbers are not well. He's not killing the team out there like he was last year, which again, most rookies are usually doing. It's also not like he's getting handed anything if he's getting killed out there every other game. Some posters are against "handing things out" or "coddling", well, wouldn't benching your young guy so he doesn't get "embarrassed" out there be the definition or coddling? Let the 21 year old get punched around a bit and see how he responds.

[drsd]

Conceptually, I cannot recall the last time the Magic won a game by dominating the free-throw shooting line.

NICE!