Terrence Ross On The Trade Market?

[HairyGOATee]

Get the hell out of here with that nonsense. 2nd Rounders? That’s insulting.


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My bad, but to be fair, Ross is on a 4 year deal, comes off the bench, and isn't a 40% 3 point shooter.

And the 2nd round pick the Mavs have this year belongs to GSW, so it'll be high. The only first round pick they can offer is a 2026, but pick swaps could be fun.

But the more I think about it, the more I feel Aminu might be a better target for the team. That's a guy that could probably be had for a 2nd rounder and a traded player exception. The Magic can then use that TPE to pick up a shooter.

Summarizing Ross as simply "a bench player who can't shoot 40% from 3" suggests you don't understand what he actually is and why he earned that contract. Therefore, I wonder why you are interested in him at all ...

He is called The Human Torch and Coin-Toss-Ross for a reason ...

Fair enough. I just think that Carlisle can coach a guy like him into being a 40% three point shooter, but the Mavs need perimeter D more than anything, so again, Aminu is probably a better target. I just thought that Ross might be expendable because of the contract, so that's why I mentioned him, but Aminu also has a "long" contract too.

[MagicFan101]

My bad, but to be fair, Ross is on a 4 year deal, comes off the bench, and isn't a 40% 3 point shooter.

And the 2nd round pick the Mavs have this year belongs to GSW, so it'll be high. The only first round pick they can offer is a 2026, but pick swaps could be fun.

But the more I think about it, the more I feel Aminu might be a better target for the team. That's a guy that could probably be had for a 2nd rounder and a traded player exception. The Magic can then use that TPE to pick up a shooter.

Summarizing Ross as simply "a bench player who can't shoot 40% from 3" suggests you don't understand what he actually is and why he earned that contract. Therefore, I wonder why you are interested in him at all ...

He is called The Human Torch and Coin-Toss-Ross for a reason ...

Fair enough. I just think that Carlisle can coach a guy like him into being a 40% three point shooter, but the Mavs need perimeter D more than anything, so again, Aminu is probably a better target. I just thought that Ross might be expendable because of the contract, so that's why I mentioned him, but Aminu also has a "long" contract too.

“Carlisle can coach him into a 40% 3pt shooter”

That isn’t going to happen, man.

Ross is at his best with an unapologetic total green light to fire away. That is why he is best off the bench as a spark plug. There will be nights where you blink twice and he has 18 points. But you will also have nights where he goes 3-15. Hence that average will never be great. But you don’t want Ross for the “average” game. You want him for those nights he can’t miss.

[HairyGOATee]

Summarizing Ross as simply "a bench player who can't shoot 40% from 3" suggests you don't understand what he actually is and why he earned that contract. Therefore, I wonder why you are interested in him at all ...

He is called The Human Torch and Coin-Toss-Ross for a reason ...

Fair enough. I just think that Carlisle can coach a guy like him into being a 40% three point shooter, but the Mavs need perimeter D more than anything, so again, Aminu is probably a better target. I just thought that Ross might be expendable because of the contract, so that's why I mentioned him, but Aminu also has a "long" contract too.

“Carlisle can coach him into a 40% 3pt shooter”

That isn’t going to happen, man.

Ross is at his best with an unapologetic total green light to fire away. That is why he is best off the bench as a spark plug. There will be nights where you blink twice and he has 18 points. But you will also have nights where he goes 3-15. Hence that average will never be great. But you don’t want Ross for the “average” game. You want him for those nights he can’t miss.

I gotcha. I remember watching his tape at Washington and liked him back then. He could get in the lane and finish decently well, but from the looks of it, he doesn't get to the FTL as much as you would think he should. Any reason for that?

[Blue_and_Whte]

Is Terrence Ross On The Trade Market? If so, then what would get a deal done? Would an expiring contract with some draft capital (mostly 2nd round picks and first round pick swaps) work?

I dont know... Did you read something? Why would he be on the market?

[HairyGOATee]

Is Terrence Ross On The Trade Market? If so, then what would get a deal done? Would an expiring contract with some draft capital (mostly 2nd round picks and first round pick swaps) work?

I dont know... Did you read something? Why would he be on the market?

Nah, I was just wondering. I figured he might be due to the length of his contract and how he comes off the bench, but people in here have convinced me that he isn't on the market. I'm also convinced now that the Mavs should just target Aminu instead, lol.

[Bergmaniac]

Summarizing Ross as simply "a bench player who can't shoot 40% from 3" suggests you don't understand what he actually is and why he earned that contract. Therefore, I wonder why you are interested in him at all ...

He is called The Human Torch and Coin-Toss-Ross for a reason ...

Fair enough. I just think that Carlisle can coach a guy like him into being a 40% three point shooter, but the Mavs need perimeter D more than anything, so again, Aminu is probably a better target. I just thought that Ross might be expendable because of the contract, so that's why I mentioned him, but Aminu also has a "long" contract too.

“Carlisle can coach him into a 40% 3pt shooter”

That isn’t going to happen, man.

Ross is at his best with an unapologetic total green light to fire away. That is why he is best off the bench as a spark plug. There will be nights where you blink twice and he has 18 points. But you will also have nights where he goes 3-15. Hence that average will never be great. But you don’t want Ross for the “average” game. You want him for those nights he can’t miss.

Ross playing with an elite playmaker Luca and plenty of other good shooters next to him can definitely average 40% from 3. It won't even require Carlisle to do much. He averaged 38% last season mostly playing on lineups with poor spacing and mediocre playmakers while having to take terrible shots all the time due to the lack of other options.

[HairyGOATee]

Fair enough. I just think that Carlisle can coach a guy like him into being a 40% three point shooter, but the Mavs need perimeter D more than anything, so again, Aminu is probably a better target. I just thought that Ross might be expendable because of the contract, so that's why I mentioned him, but Aminu also has a "long" contract too.

“Carlisle can coach him into a 40% 3pt shooter”

That isn’t going to happen, man.

Ross is at his best with an unapologetic total green light to fire away. That is why he is best off the bench as a spark plug. There will be nights where you blink twice and he has 18 points. But you will also have nights where he goes 3-15. Hence that average will never be great. But you don’t want Ross for the “average” game. You want him for those nights he can’t miss.

Ross playing with an elite playmaker Luca and plenty of other good shooters next to him can definitely average 40% from 3. It won't even require Carlisle to do much. He averaged 38% last season mostly playing on lineups with poor spacing and mediocre playmakers while having to take terrible shots all the time due to the lack of other options.

I agree with that, and having floor spacers helps, much like it did when Dirk was playing. Usually players started to convert shots at a higher rate once they went to Dallas, got coached by Carlisle, and played next to Dirk.

[Xatticus]

Is Terrence Ross On The Trade Market? If so, then what would get a deal done? Would an expiring contract with some draft capital (mostly 2nd round picks and first round pick swaps) work?

I dont know... Did you read something? Why would he be on the market?

Nah, I was just wondering. I figured he might be due to the length of his contract and how he comes off the bench, but people in here have convinced me that he isn't on the market. I'm also convinced now that the Mavs should just target Aminu instead, lol.

You have to understand that this front office isn't going to dump anyone that they see as useful. They are very much trying to win games right now and they haven't demonstrated that they place much value on draft picks or raw prospects. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that they wouldn't have interest in anything Dallas has to offer, but I can tell that they aren't going to dump Ross or Aminu for a second-round pick, regardless of where it falls.

We looked, swam, and quacked like sellers at the deadline last year, but we didn't sell. The team went on a run and made the playoffs, so the front office doubled down on this roster in the summer. They aren't going to start dumping rotation players after locking this team into place for the next four years.

[HairyGOATee]

I dont know... Did you read something? Why would he be on the market?

Nah, I was just wondering. I figured he might be due to the length of his contract and how he comes off the bench, but people in here have convinced me that he isn't on the market. I'm also convinced now that the Mavs should just target Aminu instead, lol.

You have to understand that this front office isn't going to dump anyone that they see as useful. They are very much trying to win games right now and they haven't demonstrated that they place much value on draft picks or raw prospects. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that they wouldn't have interest in anything Dallas has to offer, but I can tell that they aren't going to dump Ross or Aminu for a second-round pick, regardless of where it falls.

We looked, swam, and quacked like sellers at the deadline last year, but we didn't sell. The team went on a run and made the playoffs, so the front office doubled down on this roster in the summer. They aren't going to start dumping rotation players after locking this team into place for the next four years.

Fair enough. Thanks for breaking it down like that. Very helpful.

Have a good one bro.

[Knightro]

Deleted your other threads since we can contain everything in here.

I generally agree with Xatticus. The Magic want to make the playoffs this year. They aren't unloading any rotation players for draft picks and/or cap space. It just doesn't benefit them in the immediate short term.

With that in mind, I would imagine none of the following players are actively being shopped - Fultz, Fournier, Isaac, Vucevic, Ross, Aminu, Okeke.

The most likely player to be moved if one is moved is Aaron Gordon. This front office regime didn't draft him and also signed him to a trade friendly declining contract. Plus over the last three years they've drafted and signed 3 other PFs (Gordon's natural position) so in theory they could absorb the loss of his minutes internally.

That said, Gordon will only be traded if it brings the Magic back a sure fire rotation player in the process since they'd be losing a starter who currently plays 30+ minutes a night.

Augustin is a FA to be and *probably* won't be retained next season, so I could see a scenario where they unload him in February depending on where they are record wise, but I think it's also very possible he's retained through the end of the season if they are still in a position to make the playoffs.

Bamba is the interesting one to me. I tend to lean toward the Magic not trading him because his value is presumably very low right now and it wouldn't be a good use of assets. That said, Vucevic isn't going anywhere with 3 years left on his contract and Birch has more than proven he can be effective in a 15 MPG backup C role.

So if the right deal comes along, I could see the Magic potentially making a move involving Bamba. But I don't expect it.

[MagicFan101]

Fair enough. I just think that Carlisle can coach a guy like him into being a 40% three point shooter, but the Mavs need perimeter D more than anything, so again, Aminu is probably a better target. I just thought that Ross might be expendable because of the contract, so that's why I mentioned him, but Aminu also has a "long" contract too.

“Carlisle can coach him into a 40% 3pt shooter”

That isn’t going to happen, man.

Ross is at his best with an unapologetic total green light to fire away. That is why he is best off the bench as a spark plug. There will be nights where you blink twice and he has 18 points. But you will also have nights where he goes 3-15. Hence that average will never be great. But you don’t want Ross for the “average” game. You want him for those nights he can’t miss.

Ross playing with an elite playmaker Luca and plenty of other good shooters next to him can definitely average 40% from 3. It won't even require Carlisle to do much. He averaged 38% last season mostly playing on lineups with poor spacing and mediocre playmakers while having to take terrible shots all the time due to the lack of other options.

You’re missing the point. Every single player in the league is theoretically capable of averaging 40%. Just hit 4 out of every 10 attempts and there you ... simple as that! *right?*


But staring at average shooting % is not the way to look at a player like Ross. He just isn’t that player. There is a reason he flourished last season in the role he was given.

[NavalAviator94]

My bad, but to be fair, Ross is on a 4 year deal, comes off the bench, and isn't a 40% 3 point shooter.

And the 2nd round pick the Mavs have this year belongs to GSW, so it'll be high. The only first round pick they can offer is a 2026, but pick swaps could be fun.

But the more I think about it, the more I feel Aminu might be a better target for the team. That's a guy that could probably be had for a 2nd rounder and a traded player exception. The Magic can then use that TPE to pick up a shooter.

Summarizing Ross as simply "a bench player who can't shoot 40% from 3" suggests you don't understand what he actually is and why he earned that contract. Therefore, I wonder why you are interested in him at all ...

He is called The Human Torch and Coin-Toss-Ross for a reason ...

Fair enough. I just think that Carlisle can coach a guy like him into being a 40% three point shooter, but the Mavs need perimeter D more than anything, so again, Aminu is probably a better target. I just thought that Ross might be expendable because of the contract, so that's why I mentioned him, but Aminu also has a "long" contract too.

A head coach isn't going to suddenly make T-Ross a 40% shooter. He shot 38% last season but struggled this season early for a host of reasons. Primarily because the Magic lack shooting in that second unit to help with spacing. He's starting to adjust and is shooting 47% from 3 in December.

If you want T-Ross we would need a late lottery pick to even talk and as noted above - WE NEED MORE SHOOTING, NOT LESS. Shooters like him and others are desired by every team in the league.

[Stuff]

I would do Aminu for Curry straight up. Gives Dallas some defense and Orlando some offense.

[TheGlyde]

The Magic need more players like Ross, not less.

We struggle for points and hes one of the few scorers we have. Thinking he has less value because he comes off the bench is not true. He's on a decent contract and I think his willingness to come off the bench only increases his value.

Fournier... I don't know, I have spent many years yelling at my screen over his play, but his play at Worlds over the summer impressed me and he certainly seems to have carried it over this season. Part of me says sell high on him, but our season would be in the toilet without him, so it would have to be a good offer to take basically the best player off our team this season.