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Re: AG needs to step up 

Post#41 » by Skybox » Tue Jan 7, 2020 11:46 pm

CZ Eddie wrote:AG needs to be on a fast paced team.

WE need to be a fast paced team.


It's been smart to play through Vuc...but now that we're getting a look at Markelle flying :nod:
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Re: AG needs to step up 

Post#42 » by pepe1991 » Wed Jan 8, 2020 3:11 pm

Skybox wrote:
CZ Eddie wrote:AG needs to be on a fast paced team.

WE need to be a fast paced team.


It's been smart to play through Vuc...but now that we're getting a look at Markelle flying :nod:


If you want to know how playing fast without shooters looks like, watch 2019-20 Warriors.
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Re: AG needs to step up 

Post#43 » by JojoSlimbiid » Wed Jan 8, 2020 3:56 pm

I don't know how anyone can see him handle the ball and do things like that and think there is something hidden there. He needs to be on a team where every thing is simplified enough for him to just finish plays. Finish lobs, cuts, spot ups,etc. This self creation thing is never going to happen no matter where he goes. He needs to lose that mind set
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Re: AG needs to step up 

Post#44 » by zaymon » Wed Jan 8, 2020 4:13 pm

JojoSlimbiid wrote:I don't know how anyone can see him handle the ball and do things like that and think there is something hidden there. He needs to be on a team where every thing is simplified enough for him to just finish plays. Finish lobs, cuts, spot ups,etc. This self creation thing is never going to happen no matter where he goes. He needs to lose that mind set

You are 100 % correct. His role needs to be reduced on offense not expanded like some people here think. If we trade him he can thrive in limited role but he will always depend on better players to create for him.
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Re: AG needs to step up 

Post#45 » by OrlMagic05 » Wed Jan 8, 2020 4:40 pm

pepe1991 wrote:He is member of one of most overhyped and defacto most disappointing draft class in history.

1# pick Wiggins- false hype
2# pick Jabari Parker- nothing but bench scorer ( injuried played big role but he never showed ability to be impact player)
3# Embiid ,after crazy "rookie" season he also kind a fizzled out
4# Gordon , role player
5# Exum, bench player
6# Smart, rotation player
7# Randle , empty stats on bad teams
8# Stauskas out of nba
9# Vonleh, bench player
10# Payton, rotation player on bad teams
11# McDermott bench player
12# Saric, declined at age of 24
13# Lavine, kind a e like Randle
14# TJ Warren , similar ballpark of a player like Gordon


Capela, Bogdanovic, Jokić, Nurkić, Garry Harris, Joe Harris were all non- lottery picks and in retrospective better than vast majority of lottery players.
Best example of hype going wrong.

It's not objective to expect from 6th year player, who has been career 12,5ppg, 53% TS player to "step up". Almost every single nba player becomes what he is for rest of his prime by the 4th year, before rookie extension starts. Ofc there are some outliners, but they are outliners. Gordon is solid player that has too big leash and who tried to develop part of his game that never suited him.Blame goes partly on him and partly on Magic for it. Time after time you see him take pullup jumpers and passing on spot up shots. Makes no sense for anybody but him ( and former or current, or both training stuffs) why he does things like that all the time. Just like his post up game has zero practical usage in Clifford's system so question stands- why he spent whole summer working on it?

Most annoying part about Gordon is that Ibaka for full lenght of his extension ended up being better payer than Gordon on his ( assuming nothing changes any time soon, in mean time last 10 or so games Ibaka is 20-10 guy again)


Man I never really thought about how over-hyped that draft class was. Looking back at it now this was supposed to be reminiscent of the 2003 draft.

I actually don't want AG to "step-up" when he tries to be a star he falls right on his face. When he plays in the offense he is a way better player. It still baffles me how much of a green light he has and yet we don't even run one play for JI... I really try not to hate on AG because the talent is there, but its frustrating when he thinks his talent is on the level of Lebron. With that said I do hope he starts shooting the ball better soon. That alone will help the team tremendously.

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