swarlesbarkley wrote:pepe1991 wrote:swarlesbarkley wrote:
2019-20 Season Alley-Oops:
Vuc: 1/5
Bamba 8/11
Looks like it's more on Vuc than it is the guards. Bamba gets twice as many oops with half the minutes. He's also way better at it.
8 FGM during 45 games really sounds like sustainable offense lol
Btw i:m not even sure what's your point? There was period of time when Deandre Jordan looked like allstar because of Chris Paul.
David West indeed was allstar when he played with CP3.
Guy is one of most gifted passers ever.
Noel prior OKC was usless on offense.
Lobs are broken plays. It's like trying to run defense around charges. Situational thing, not gameplan worthy
Just looked it up. Noel has had 49 lobs this year. He's on track for the most in his career, sure, but to say he was useless before (at least in the context of lobs) is not true.
18-19: 54 in 77 games played
17-18: 28 in 30 games played
16-17: 70 in 73 games played
15-16: 72 in 67 games played
14-15: 45 in 75 games played
So it's not just the Chris Paul effect.
Prior this season he had 2 years where he averaged 4,4 and 4,9 ppg.
This is first season in his career where his OBPM isn't negative.
Matter of fact by offensive real plus minus in 2017-18 he was 4th worst center in nba. That sounds like pretty usless offensive player to me...
He is really good defender because he is mobile and not that big ( 6'10- 220 ) ,yet has nice defensive instics and he is long enough to interupt passing lines. But on offense he really can't do anything but dunks. In past he was bad FT shooter as well (career 65%) at least that part is now fixed (80,8%). But still, comes as no suprise that in his first year where he is actually positivie contributor on offense- he plays with Chris Paul, who had same impact with all Cs he played with.
As for CP3 effect, during 2016-17 Deandre JOrdan was 3rd best c in a game by most data and Griffin was top 20 player. Fast forward with hindsight, Paul only played 61 games and they had 51-31 record. If i counted it right, they won 46 of that 51 games with him. Witch means they were 5-16 without him.
In general Clippers were below .500 team from 2013-2017 in games that CP3 didn't play.