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Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET

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Re: Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET 

Post#381 » by RookieStar » Mon Aug 3, 2020 5:39 am

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RookieStar wrote:A h man... sucks to see and hear it. Sucks to be a magic fan.

Also really? Karma? WTF? A person with a different viewpoint on you is karma?

Whats next? Different religion? pro/anti vaxx? Flat/Round earth? Why dont we do that as qell?
You guys are super emotional about this.

Nah, I'm an avowed atheist. I've had quite a few run-ins with the staunch believers on this board over many years.

Of course it was a freak accident. I even said in my post I HOPE HE HAS A SPEEDY RECOVERY AND I DON'T WISH INJURIES ON ANYONE. But y'all would rather come at my neck over my flippant tongue in cheek comments.

Let me make it real easy for everyone: if JI would have come out and said "kneeling would go against my beliefs" (kinda like how Pop said he has his own PERSONAL reasons for standing) you'd have never heard a peep outta me. I respect his right to do whatever the hell he wants. But the word salad BS he spewed in his explanation was the REAL trash take. So yeah, even though I actually don't believe in karma, I thought it was crazy how it happened. Wish him nothing but the best. You guys take this stuff way too seriously.

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You made a trash comment, we responded accordingly. Dont go blaming others for your own dumb decisions and acting like we are low IQ and cant comprehend the complexity of your post. If everyone around you says you **** up, you probably **** up.


Same thinking. Trash comment deserves the same.
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Re: Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET 

Post#382 » by RookieStar » Mon Aug 3, 2020 5:41 am

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RookieStar wrote:A h man... sucks to see and hear it. Sucks to be a magic fan.

Also really? Karma? WTF? A person with a different viewpoint on you is karma?

Whats next? Different religion? pro/anti vaxx? Flat/Round earth? Why dont we do that as qell?

Funny is, he is an atheist but believes in karma which comes from Hindu. Lol

Anyway, Even if it was a tongue in cheek moment, I dont think it would have been nice to rub it in just because people do not have the same view.


Yup.. so juat because a person is an aetheist or something you can now bash someone who is religious and not exepect tp get backlash for.it? Especially if the guy being bashed is in all.intents and purpoae a genuinely nice person who does good deeds?

Whooop-te-do.
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Re: Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET 

Post#383 » by MagicStarwipe » Mon Aug 3, 2020 6:58 am

I have so many questions. Was the knee healed 100% or not? It would seem not considering how quickly and easily he re-injured the same knee. But if it was, maybe he is just that injury prone. Either we are incompetent or he's Penny part 2. Just sucks all the way around.
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Re: Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET 

Post#384 » by phrazbit » Mon Aug 3, 2020 7:22 am

Knightro wrote:I 100% refuse to believe that a professional sports franchise would allow a player who needed a ligament or tendon to be surgically repaired to opt for a non-surgical rehab process.

No way they would allow that and then publically lie about the situation by saying the player didn't need surgery.

There's just far too much invested in a player like Isaac for the organization to not take every single step possible and proceed with that level of risk. Especially considering Isaac sat out 8 months anyway.

If Isaac needed surgery in January, he would have had it.


Kevin Durant's achillies would disagree.

I honestly don't think there is anything nefarious going on and Isaac's injury could be total random chance, but I believe 1000% that the Warriors misdiagnosed Durant's initial injury in the 2019 playoffs. I doubt they did it on purpose, but that was WAY too coincidental to have been unrelated.

Doctors, like anyone else, can make mistakes and sometimes might see what they want to see rather than reality.
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Re: Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET 

Post#385 » by Bensational » Mon Aug 3, 2020 8:21 am

Doctors are also guided by patients. If scans appear ok, then they have to go by the feedback of the patient as to how it feels strength wise. Isaac is a competitive guy who certainly wouldn't have been happy missing the post season, so he might have been telling them it felt better than it did.

Or, he's like one of the many greats who's career was limited by injuries.
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Re: Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET 

Post#386 » by Knightro » Mon Aug 3, 2020 11:03 am

phrazbit wrote:Kevin Durant's achillies would disagree.

I honestly don't think there is anything nefarious going on and Isaac's injury could be total random chance, but I believe 1000% that the Warriors misdiagnosed Durant's initial injury in the 2019 playoffs. I doubt they did it on purpose, but that was WAY too coincidental to have been unrelated.

Doctors, like anyone else, can make mistakes and sometimes might see what they want to see rather than reality.


Durant only missed a few weeks, not eight months like Isaac did though. There’s just nothing to suggest Isaac was rushed back given how long he actually sat out in the first place.

Assuming it was true that Jonathan had no ligament tears in January, which the Magic would not have not been able to hide from the public since those don’t heal without surgery, he missed so much time that his knee should have been as healed as it needed to be to play.
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Re: Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET 

Post#387 » by zaymon » Mon Aug 3, 2020 11:18 am

Knightro wrote:
phrazbit wrote:Kevin Durant's achillies would disagree.

I honestly don't think there is anything nefarious going on and Isaac's injury could be total random chance, but I believe 1000% that the Warriors misdiagnosed Durant's initial injury in the 2019 playoffs. I doubt they did it on purpose, but that was WAY too coincidental to have been unrelated.

Doctors, like anyone else, can make mistakes and sometimes might see what they want to see rather than reality.


Durant only missed a few weeks, not eight months like Isaac did though. There’s just nothing to suggest Isaac was rushed back given how long he actually sat out in the first place.

Assuming it was true that Jonathan had no ligament tears in January, which the Magic would not have not been able to hide from the public since those don’t heal without surgery, he missed so much time that his knee should have been as healed as it needed to be to play.

We all know he doesnt move like a human. First his ankles, now knees.... its like text book.....
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Re: Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET 

Post#388 » by drsd » Mon Aug 3, 2020 12:39 pm

Bensational wrote:Doctors are also guided by patients. If scans appear ok, then they have to go by the feedback of the patient as to how it feels strength wise.


For me and you: yes.

For a professional athlete, Isaac would have had advance metrics associated to his knee, its strength, flexibility, etc.

Frankly I cannot understand this injury.

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Re: Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET 

Post#389 » by swarlesbarkley » Mon Aug 3, 2020 2:49 pm

Bensational wrote:Doctors are also guided by patients. If scans appear ok, then they have to go by the feedback of the patient as to how it feels strength wise. Isaac is a competitive guy who certainly wouldn't have been happy missing the post season, so he might have been telling them it felt better than it did.

Or, he's like one of the many greats who's career was limited by injuries.


I think there's a chance that Isaac knew his original timeline (6-8 weeks) and felt pressure from himself to get back. If there was no tear or break, there's not much that screening can tell you so the doctors probably need to go off Isaac's feeling and assessment of his own knee at some point.

We as fans look at that original timeline and think he clearly rehabbed long enough - but maybe that's also what Isaac was feeling despite his knee not actually being ready. I'm no professional athlete but if I have an original timeline of 8 weeks of healing and I actually take 8 months - I'm getting out there and playing despite what my body tells me.
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Re: Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET 

Post#390 » by Popsicle1228 » Mon Aug 3, 2020 3:52 pm

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MagicFan101 wrote:People are **** up.

We expected Isaac to face some backlash for his choice to stand. He is hearing it loud today after this injury.
That's what happens. Karma. Refuse to take a knee (for flimsy religious reasons), goes out with a knee injury. Obviously it sucks, and I've never wished injuries on anyone, especially our own players. I hope he makes a speedy recovery. But people who feel passionately about the cause are gonna be vocal about it. It is what it is. Part of God's plan, right?

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I am a bit late to the party, but I just saw this post and wow!

I would expect this type of comment on the general board or on Twitter but not here.
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Re: Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET 

Post#391 » by NotACat » Mon Aug 3, 2020 4:04 pm

Popsicle1228 wrote:
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MagicFan101 wrote:People are **** up.

We expected Isaac to face some backlash for his choice to stand. He is hearing it loud today after this injury.
That's what happens. Karma. Refuse to take a knee (for flimsy religious reasons), goes out with a knee injury. Obviously it sucks, and I've never wished injuries on anyone, especially our own players. I hope he makes a speedy recovery. But people who feel passionately about the cause are gonna be vocal about it. It is what it is. Part of God's plan, right?

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I am a bit late to the party, but I just saw this post and wow!

I would expect this type of comment on the general board or on Twitter but not here.

People here love to hate our own players, sometimes more than general board and on twitter. They exist everywhere, just more visible on some platforms than others
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Re: Bubble Season Game 2: Orlando Magic (31-35) v. Sacramento Kings (28-37) - 6pm ET 

Post#392 » by fendilim » Tue Aug 4, 2020 4:01 am

I would like to believe that his knees were already healthy before being brought back to play.

All indications with what amanagement have done with their acquisitions, they have been really cautious on their injury rehabilitation.
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