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Emergency GT: Magic vs Sixers

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Re: Emergency GT: Magic vs Sixers 

Post#161 » by Skybox » Sat Aug 8, 2020 12:20 pm

basketballRob wrote:Meanwhile we're such a better team without Fournier and running the offense through Fultz.

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If you’re willing to blow it up, tank, rebuild thru the draft...why on Earth wouldn’t you feed the young guys Already on your roster a game plan that MIGHT reveal something already on the roster? Are you afraid you might lose? Who cares at this point? Fultz and Bamba are clearly emotionally fragile (kids their age), Fultz needs to string together some 20 pt games. Game plan for Bamba to drop 6 3 pointers and play rim protector on D. Why do they have to beat Vuc, DJ, and Evan at their own game? If you choose to continue with the safest, proven, most efficient known path, then inevitably you get the same mediocre crap we’ve had. You can’t even add to the equation because it’s a system built for them. Clearly, Fultz is capable...I’m not suggesting we do the same for Frazier, etc.

Again, if you’re ready to dismantle, why not experiment? Other than Bamba's condition, this freak shortened season provides a nice lab.
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Re: Emergency GT: Magic vs Sixers 

Post#162 » by Knightro » Sat Aug 8, 2020 12:34 pm

If there was a way to generate "5 buckets every game" strictly through scheme for good players, every single coach in the league would do it every single game.

That's just completely unrealistic.

*Great* players get easy buckets every game because they're great players and have the ability to beat any type of defense.

I'm not suggesting coaching isn't important, but at the end of the day, you gotta have good players. There's only so much blood that can be squeezed from a stone.

Look at Frank Vogel. He coached a pathetic Magic team for two years and won 29 and then 25 games with a horrible offense.

This year he gets to coach LeBron James and Anthony Davis and the Lakers are the favorites to win the NBA title.

Is he a good coach or is he a bad coach? The reality is he's probably somewhere in the middle and his team's performances are heavily predicated on the talent around him like it is so for so many other coaches.
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Re: Emergency GT: Magic vs Sixers 

Post#163 » by pepe1991 » Sat Aug 8, 2020 12:52 pm

Steve Kerr
2016-17 - 1st in off rating
2017-18 : 3rd in offensive rating
2018-19- 1# in off rating
2019-20 - 30"# in off rating


Shees he probably forgot how to coach this year, alzheimer got him good :rofl:

NBA offense comes to few factors:
1) how many good looks you create
2) how many bad shots you take on average

Most of shots are created by simply passing the ball and commanding attention and extra attention,craeted by gifted players.
Most of bad shots are "bad" because they are taken by lesser talent or by players with poor efficiency or players who take shots they are not good at ( example Westbrook shooting 3s )
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Re: Emergency GT: Magic vs Sixers 

Post#164 » by zaymon » Sat Aug 8, 2020 1:14 pm

basketballRob wrote:Meanwhile we're such a better team without Fournier and running the offense through Fultz.

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Re: Emergency GT: Magic vs Sixers 

Post#165 » by KillMonger » Sat Aug 8, 2020 1:34 pm

Knightro wrote:If there was a way to generate "5 buckets every game" strictly through scheme for good players, every single coach in the league would do it every single game.

That's just completely unrealistic.

*Great* players get easy buckets every game because they're great players and have the ability to beat any type of defense.

I'm not suggesting coaching isn't important, but at the end of the day, you gotta have good players. There's only so much blood that can be squeezed from a stone.

Look at Frank Vogel. He coached a pathetic Magic team for two years and won 29 and then 25 games with a horrible offense.

This year he gets to coach LeBron James and Anthony Davis and the Lakers are the favorites to win the NBA title.

Is he a good coach or is he a bad coach? The reality is he's probably somewhere in the middle and his team's performances are heavily predicated on the talent around him like it is so for so many other coaches.

Man, i really want to be done with this...one more time

there is a fine line between getting the opportunity for the bucket and actually converting....context is key....the "5 easy buckets" was illustrative for my point, never did i say that would actually be the case nor was i comparing fultz to hall of famers....it was merely the Segue to my main point....i was just saying there are ways to put fultz in position where he can get an easy bucket or two consistently every game.....can doesn't mean will.....

All i was just trying to explore was how to get fultz a few more opportunities.....no need to try and squeeze blood from the stone surely it's not that hard....the same way james barrego can somehow create open jumpers for graham and terry rozier with a trash roster? we can create a few more opportunities for fultz....the knicks have this one play i think it's a curl screen that they run almost every game that gets frickin frank knitilikina an open mid range jumper almost every time...now whether he makes the shot is up to the percentages but my point is he gets that opportunity/play at least once consistently almost every game and this is the knicks i don't have to explain how bad they are....

Is it that hard to maybe run one or two less pindowns for ross to maybe open up an opportunity for fultz? couldn't we try to eliminate the actions that somehow tend to end with birch or MCW getting the ball inexplicably and give that look to fultz? I think that clifford can get a bit more creative with fultz and put him positions where he can get an opportunity for a easy look or two every game...it would be up to him to convert but i don't see the difficulty in that...

i said my piece, i respect other people's view on the matter but at this point....."Never the twain shall meet" i'm bowing out here
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Re: Emergency GT: Magic vs Sixers 

Post#166 » by PrimeThyme » Sat Aug 8, 2020 2:31 pm

Saw a stat today that we went 5-30 against teams above .500 this season. && I'm supposed to be excited that we got the equivalent of a participation trophy and clinched a 7-8th spot in the East so we can get swept in the first round. This is worse than NBA purgatory. I'd rather be picking 6-12th in the draft like we were the last 7 years.

What we are doing now ensures we will be bad for a lot longer.
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Re: Emergency GT: Magic vs Sixers 

Post#167 » by Skybox » Sat Aug 8, 2020 5:15 pm

Why is everybody moaning? We're better than enough teams in the East to fall into the playoffs...sorry. We've got some solid vets and we've got some solid young guys. We have a couple of contracts we don't love, but nothing outrageous. They may or may not mesh well but we have options for change. There's a lot of programs that, IMO, look like crap compared to our situation. The worst thing a decent team can do is play down a level against poor teams. Beating them consistently is a nice building block. Now, WeHam, be bold and courageous, Please!

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