Athletic article on why no PT for Bamba

[basketballRob]

Its a possible scenario. From all we know about Bamba, Clifford is clearly looking like he is shielding him, not giving us all the truth.

I really don't think he likes Bamba. I remember the first summer league, Cliff pulled Isaac and Bamba after 3 games, because he said they told him they were tired. After that comment from Cliff it even took Isaac over a year to break the stigma here of being lazy and out of shape.

Bamba has never broke that stigma and the whole narrative is perpetuated by Cliff.

If they were tired, Cliff could've rested them a game and then played them, instead he has to crap on their reputations and not let them play anymore in that summer league.

I remember arguing that whole season that Isaac wasn't lazy.

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Complete bulls***

isaac was out of breath because SL is played in middle of a summer, during a day, Isaac has asthma, and it's a such a pain in a** to run exstended period of time with those conditions.

isaac competes hard ,Isaac never sleeps in rotation.
As usual you just make stuff up.

Bamba is lazy, Bamba entered nba with question mark does he even like basketball. He was lazy and letargic even in college. Many scouts were pointing out that at times he is jogging and has no purpose nor desire to be out there.

I remember people questioning Isaac after that summer league.

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[drsd]

For defense only thing that matters are:
1) forcing bad shots
2) forcing turnovers

I will add i) boxing out for rebounds and ii) defensive rebounds.

Back in the 80s the rebounding champ was often the defensive player of the year; this is a critical defensive skill in my opinion. And is one reason Vučević is a much better defender than the eye-test he fails at.


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[Blue_and_Whte]

For defense only thing that matters are:
1) forcing bad shots
2) forcing turnovers

I will add i) boxing out for rebounds and ii) defensive rebounds.

Back in the 80s the rebounding champ was often the defensive player of the year; this is a critical defensive skill in my opinion. And is one reason Vučević is a much better defender than the eye-test he fails at.


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Yup. He doesn’t swat shots and stare people down so therefore a bad defender..

[basketballRob]

Mo bought a house.

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[drsd]

Mo bought a house.

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It was fairly easy to find this house (I won't put its address up). I would say it is VERY modest for an NBA player. It is with two very close neighbours and has a thin garden. That garden does lead to a dock and has direct lake access.

In conclusion: this might be more about taxes and tax avoidance than some insight of his expectations to stay in Orlando.

p.s. This house is on the West side of Windermere and thus has an about 30 minute, one-way commute to the Amway Centre.

[drsd]

Gotta play him.

Gary Clark is so awful, I must believe that Bamba at PF would be an upgrade. And this solves all questions about rotations and playing time.

Will starting minutes at PF help Bamba develop? I have no idea. But at least he would be getting court time.


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[Blue_and_Whte]

Mo bought a house.

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It was fairly easy to find this house (I won't put its address up). I would say it is VERY modest for an NBA player. It is with two very close neighbours and has a thin garden. That garden does lead to a dock and has direct lake access.

In conclusion: this might be more about taxes and tax avoidance than some insight of his expectations to stay in Orlando.

p.s. This house is on the West side of Windermere and thus has an about 30 minute, one-way commute to the Amway Centre.

Birch trade confirmed

[Skybox]

Mo bought a house.

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It was fairly easy to find this house (I won't put its address up). I would say it is VERY modest for an NBA player. It is with two very close neighbours and has a thin garden. That garden does lead to a dock and has direct lake access.

In conclusion: this might be more about taxes and tax avoidance than some insight of his expectations to stay in Orlando.

p.s. This house is on the West side of Windermere and thus has an about 30 minute, one-way commute to the Amway Centre.

Birch trade confirmed

Lol...pains me to turn my ill will towards Birch, who does nothing but grind...it’s all about upside. The goal is to drive solid guys like him out of your rotation

[Blue_and_Whte]

It was fairly easy to find this house (I won't put its address up). I would say it is VERY modest for an NBA player. It is with two very close neighbours and has a thin garden. That garden does lead to a dock and has direct lake access.

In conclusion: this might be more about taxes and tax avoidance than some insight of his expectations to stay in Orlando.

p.s. This house is on the West side of Windermere and thus has an about 30 minute, one-way commute to the Amway Centre.

Birch trade confirmed

Lol...pains me to turn my ill will towards Birch, who does nothing but grind...it’s all about upside. The goal is to drive solid guys like him out of your rotation

Well IMO nobody should have ill will towards a player who busted his ass to make in the NBA. It should be directed at the guy with God given physical tools who hasn’t really played hard.

[OrlandoNed]

It just occurred to me that we still have a G League team, so that begs the question why is Weltman allowing Bamba to stay trapped under Cliff’s thumb when he has somewhere he can actually play and develop?

It just doesn’t make any sense. The coach won’t play him, the GM won’t trade him and he’s just sitting on the bench twiddling his thumbs. Why is the management wasting everybody’s time? It’s utterly stupid to let an asset like Bamba depreciate in value while the clock is ticking before he’s up for a new contract. What is the logic here?

It’s not like management is endearing itself to Bamba by wasting his time. Even if he gets a legitimate opportunity to prove his worth for a new deal, why the hell would he want to do management any favors after jerking his chain around for years?

[MoMM]

It just occurred to me that we still have a G League team, so that begs the question why is Weltman allowing Bamba to stay trapped under Cliff’s thumb when he has somewhere he can actually play and develop?

It just doesn’t make any sense. The coach won’t play him, the GM won’t trade him and he’s just sitting on the bench twiddling his thumbs. Why is the management wasting everybody’s time? It’s utterly stupid to let an asset like Bamba depreciate in value while the clock is ticking before he’s up for a new contract. What is the logic here?

It’s not like management is endearing itself to Bamba by wasting his time. Even if he gets a legitimate opportunity to prove his worth for a new deal, why the hell would he want to do management any favors after jerking his chain around for years?

Sending him to our G-League would basically make his value became zero (or even negative) as a trade chip.

[pepe1991]

It just occurred to me that we still have a G League team, so that begs the question why is Weltman allowing Bamba to stay trapped under Cliff’s thumb when he has somewhere he can actually play and develop?

It just doesn’t make any sense. The coach won’t play him, the GM won’t trade him and he’s just sitting on the bench twiddling his thumbs. Why is the management wasting everybody’s time? It’s utterly stupid to let an asset like Bamba depreciate in value while the clock is ticking before he’s up for a new contract. What is the logic here?

It’s not like management is endearing itself to Bamba by wasting his time. Even if he gets a legitimate opportunity to prove his worth for a new deal, why the hell would he want to do management any favors after jerking his chain around for years?

G league has never been "developmental" in sense of using it to help young players. It's literally the punishment to go there and has been viewed as such forever. Level of competition in G league is complete joke. Basically it's a league made up of players that can't land nba, europien, chineese nor any other serious league contract. In other words any player who would have been offered more than 45K a year would probably not be there. So sending player who is esencially making more money than few G league taems together to play ( or god forbid being outworked ) by them makes him and a team look like complete, incompetente a**.
G league is league where player like Zimmerman, who had degenerative arm , no jumpshot and basically no basketball skills, was wracking double doubles like it's nothing.

ivica Zubac who is solid rotation big, but nothing more than that, during his second nba season, being kind a overweight and in poor shape averaged 22 ppg in G league.

There is simply nothing to learn from it, it's like going back to highschool at age of 25,with college degree. Getting "burn" won't develop anything, Those guys can play pickup games at practice, as they do, and it's still more competitive and higher level of talent than anything G league has to offer.

[fendilim]

It just occurred to me that we still have a G League team, so that begs the question why is Weltman allowing Bamba to stay trapped under Cliff’s thumb when he has somewhere he can actually play and develop?

It just doesn’t make any sense. The coach won’t play him, the GM won’t trade him and he’s just sitting on the bench twiddling his thumbs. Why is the management wasting everybody’s time? It’s utterly stupid to let an asset like Bamba depreciate in value while the clock is ticking before he’s up for a new contract. What is the logic here?

It’s not like management is endearing itself to Bamba by wasting his time. Even if he gets a legitimate opportunity to prove his worth for a new deal, why the hell would he want to do management any favors after jerking his chain around for years?

Sending him to our G-League would basically make his value became zero (or even negative) as a trade chip.

GLeague means Guards-League.

[MoMM]

it's like going back to highschool at age of 25,with college degree.

In fact, that wouldn't be a bad idea

[pepe1991]

it's like going back to highschool at age of 25,with college degree.

In fact, that wouldn't be a bad idea

bi** slapping teens when think life is hard because their crush ghousted them?

[drsd]

Bamba's stat line last night was Ace:
In 7 minutes played, he had a plus/minus of +18. So every One minute he played, Orlando outscored Golden State by 2.5 points. That is ridiculous!

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[drsd]

Birch trade confirmed

If Khem Birch is traded, that would mean that Orlando will i) lose more games than it would otherwise and ii) Bamba would be required to play 20 mpg.

I guess many here wold like both of those.

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