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Re: With the 5th overall pick the Orlando Magic select... 

Post#521 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:40 am

T-Rob wrote:All this Barnes and Kuminga talk is relevant enough to discuss but I'm thinking I'd take Bouknight at 5. His game should translate well with more space to work with. I don't think Barnes or Kuminga will ever develop the offense Bouknight offers and defense is overrated in this league. I just don't think he will last til 8 and I'd hate to miss out.


If a GM takes Bouknight when there is still one of the top 5 available then that GM should be fired. And im probably thr first Bouknight bandwagom driver.

Taking Bouknight over Barnes and Moody might be justifiable though.
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Re: With the 5th overall pick the Orlando Magic select... 

Post#522 » by T-Rob » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:48 am

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T-Rob wrote:All this Barnes and Kuminga talk is relevant enough to discuss but I'm thinking I'd take Bouknight at 5. His game should translate well with more space to work with. I don't think Barnes or Kuminga will ever develop the offense Bouknight offers and defense is overrated in this league. I just don't think he will last til 8 and I'd hate to miss out.


If a GM takes Bouknight when there is still one of the top 5 available then that GM should be fired. And im probably thr first Bouknight bandwagom driver.

Taking Bouknight over Barnes and Moody might be justifiable though.


When your team needs offense you probably should look at arguably the best offensive player in the draft even if it's at the 5 spot. I would rather create my own perception of players and their fit rather than purely basing it on mock drafts to do it for me.
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Re: With the 5th overall pick the Orlando Magic select... 

Post#523 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 28, 2021 5:52 am

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T-Rob wrote:All this Barnes and Kuminga talk is relevant enough to discuss but I'm thinking I'd take Bouknight at 5. His game should translate well with more space to work with. I don't think Barnes or Kuminga will ever develop the offense Bouknight offers and defense is overrated in this league. I just don't think he will last til 8 and I'd hate to miss out.


If a GM takes Bouknight when there is still one of the top 5 available then that GM should be fired. And im probably thr first Bouknight bandwagom driver.

Taking Bouknight over Barnes and Moody might be justifiable though.


When your team needs offense you probably should look at arguably the best offensive player in the draft even if it's at the 5 spot. I would rather create my own perception of players and their fit rather than purely basing it on mock drafts to do it for me.


Thats the thing though, as i have been harping all along... our team doesnt need offense more than our team needs a tier 1 star. And I agree about whatever spot it is from 1-5 as long as it has star potential.
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Re: With the 5th overall pick the Orlando Magic select... 

Post#524 » by cedric76 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 6:03 am

A small clip of Bouknight shooting 3pt has really increase his value in fans' eyes

Wait till Moses post similar clips
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Re: With the 5th overall pick the Orlando Magic select... 

Post#525 » by basketballRob » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:16 am

Bouknight probably isn't drafted in the top 10.

He's going 24 in this one that just came out.


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Re: With the 5th overall pick the Orlando Magic select... 

Post#526 » by RookieStar » Mon Jun 28, 2021 10:46 am

basketballRob wrote:Bouknight probably isn't drafted in the top 10.

He's going 24 in this one that just came out.


https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/2021-nba-mock-draft-60-draft-order-officially-set-lottery-edition
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Mocks are all over the place. There was even one where Sengun and Barnes were in the top 5 displacing Green and Kuminga.

Who knows if JB is in the top 10 come draft night. Right now he is but we havent even seen Giddy Sengun Wagner Moody do their stuff for the GMs yet
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Re: With the 5th overall pick the Orlando Magic select... 

Post#527 » by tiderulz » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:50 pm

cedric76 wrote:A small clip of Bouknight shooting 3pt has really increase his value in fans' eyes

Wait till Moses post similar clips

to be fair, the 3 pt shot was one of his few criticisms. He also had mid-season elbow surgery so that didnt help his %'s. Moody doesnt have tape of a good mid-range game and creating his own shot. He is a very good 3 pt shooter and a good player in his own right. has more defensive potential than Bouknight. but he isnt as offensively gifted.

shoot, if no one in top-4 fall down, i would be happy with Bouknight & Moody in the draft at 5 and 8
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Re: With the 5th overall pick the Orlando Magic select... 

Post#528 » by tiderulz » Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:55 pm

basketballRob wrote:Bouknight probably isn't drafted in the top 10.

He's going 24 in this one that just came out.


https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/wizards/2021-nba-mock-draft-60-draft-order-officially-set-lottery-edition
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would you put money on that?

look at their 2020 draft. they had Tyrese Maxey going #5, Deni Avdija going #6, Cole Anthony #7, Precious Achiuwa #10, Killian Hayes #11, Theo Maledon #16, Jahmi'us Ramsey #18. (Theo and Ramsey both ended up in 2nd round)

I'll put a bet with anyone that Bouknight goes top-10.
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Re: With the 5th overall pick the Orlando Magic select... 

Post#529 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Jun 28, 2021 1:40 pm

tiderulz wrote:
cedric76 wrote:A small clip of Bouknight shooting 3pt has really increase his value in fans' eyes

Wait till Moses post similar clips

to be fair, the 3 pt shot was one of his few criticisms. He also had mid-season elbow surgery so that didnt help his %'s. Moody doesnt have tape of a good mid-range game and creating his own shot. He is a very good 3 pt shooter and a good player in his own right. has more defensive potential than Bouknight. but he isnt as offensively gifted.

shoot, if no one in top-4 fall down, i would be happy with Bouknight & Moody in the draft at 5 and 8

Please help me understand why you'd draft 2 players at the same position in the same draft, within the lotto. I really want to see the logic where both can get their developmental PT AND still trying to develop RJ. Do you see Moody playing SF?

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