j-ragg wrote:johanliebert wrote:tiderulz wrote:Draymond Green under Mark Jackson, bench player, 6 ppg 5 rpg. 1st year under Kerr, moved to starter and became key player. Jermaine Oneal on bench in Portland, all-star in Indiana. Bamba isnt going to get anything in return, so might as well see if the new coach can pull the right lever to get him to give a $#$@ about his game and see if he wants to stay in the league. I dont think he can become a star, but just showing some fire he could be a good bench shot blocker.
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The former Warriors center, who played with Green from 2013-16 and in 2019 at Golden State, revealed an interesting anecdote Tuesday while chatting with Damon, Ratto and Kolsky on 95.7 The Game.
“[Green] was almost out of the league,” Bogut said. “A lot of people don’t realize, [coach] Mark Jackson tried to play him at the three more than the four and it wasn’t his natural position.”
“He struggled his rookie year to find what his role was in the NBA and within the team,” Bogut said. “Once he got that opportunity from Steve, it kind of all changed. He’s the first to tell you, he was almost on a plane to Europe with the way he was being played earlier in his career.”
Hmm
Reminds me of the Isaac situation here.
Promoted in starter after 17 games of rookie year, played PF 98% of time.
Similarities are what?
Draymoond Green was 35th pick on 47-35 team who had former allstar David Lee at PF, former allstar Jefferson and rookie lottery pick Barnes at SF.
Fact that Mark Jackson got terrible rookie 79 games and 13mpg despite him shooting 32% FG is something that 99,999% nba coached would not to. I'm far away from Mark Jackson fan, but Draymoond Green would have been out of nba in 2 years if he landed on 29 other teams. Draymoond Green's career is best rimender why landing in perfect situation can make you look 50000 times better than you are. At apsolute best Draymoond Green was avereage rebounder, terrible scorer, terrible shooter who was very good at making somwhat simplistic passes to Curry & Klay and play hard defense ,despite being limited with no size nor athletic ability.
But Warriors had so much talent ( and no talented opponent) who would keep punishing them inside paint.
Draymoond Green, from talent perspective is shi**y version of Josh Smith . Smith just didn't have infrastructure, superstars around him nor one of best players ever in front office to help him develop as person outside basketball, like Green had.
Draymoond is definition of overrated overachiver who , if he landed on some Kings, would look like execlly how some random Tyler Honeycutt looked. After horrendus rookie year, as second round pick,his career was over.
Bogut can kick rocks. Just look how many nba second round pick log 150 games played over 2 years ( spoiler alert: less than 10%).
He’s the first to tell you, he was almost on a plane to Europe with the way he was being played earlier in his career.
"Being played"
Draymoond Green without Curry and Klay last year averaged 7 ppg on 38% FG with 48% TS and negative impact on offense. That's what he is. But unlike 99,999998% nba players, most limited role players in second round don't land on team that has probably second best PG in history and best pure shooter in history and on top of that, for two championship runs, add at times second best player in basketball.
And even when they blew up that lead, they shouldn't have been in finals in first place, as nba didn't ban him for hitting Adams in nuts ( but did when he did same move on their golden goose James ).
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