2021-2022 Regular Season Game 63: Indiana Pacers (21-42) at Orlando Magic (15-47) - 3/2/22 - 7pm ET

[IllMagic04]

I wouldn't even have that much of a problem with Cole's disgusting selfishness (ok I'm lying, I still would) if he was actually, you know, good at scoring. Hell if he was good at anything.

Look at Suggs. That guy is struggling *horribly* with his 3PT shooting right now, but he at least contributes positively on the defensive end, as a passer and he's figured out how to score inside the arc. shooting .491 from 2PT and averaging 3.7 FTA since he returned from the thumb injury. His passing/creation for others has also upticked positively since the injury (3.6 AST/3.2 TOV pre thumb compared to 5.2 AST/3.0 TOV post thumb).

Cole really does nothing. Can't make shots. Can't defend. Can't pass.

ughm.. Cole splits in February:
16,5 ppg
5 apg
5 rpg
2,8 turnovers
41,2 FG
42,3% for 3
92% FTs

54,5% TS.

That's actually solid.

Problem with Cole is that he does not know how to pick up his spots. Again, that's back to college issues and me "sh**ing" on him during rookie year where everybody was up in arms with typical " leave him alone he is rookie" BS.
Cole is same player he was at highschool, college, rookie year and now in second year. His delusional confidence is his strenght and his biggest downfall. People last year cheered him for being same player he has always been. He did not change. Perception around him changed.

Basically mini Westbrook scenario. In 2016 people called Durant quitter, in 2017 people called Oladipo trash, in 2018 George & Melo were media whooping boys, in 2019 George was called quitter, in 2020 Harden was quitter, in 2021 Beal was "not that good" and now finally ,7 years later, until he is finally paired with media darling, people and media changed narrative about him and for first time in a decade can see through empty stats.

Cole will be Cole .He will eat masssive usage rate and take awful shots. Cole will also get better at basketball over time maybe to the point where is legit solid starter ( if not more ) because his inner drive is undeniable.
You knew what was going to happen when you made roster without serious backup plan last year when he was promoted to starter ( without backup! ). We knew what was going to happen when you meet delusional confidence with coach without authority. We knew what was going to happen when there is no leadership . He will take over. This is suprise to nobody.

Cole can be your walmart Lamelo Ball type of player if you have somebody to guide him into that direction. But on team where he has 20 shots to take every night, without any serious consequences, wtf did people expected him to be but must worst version of himself -even notorious chucker. It's not like other guard ( who i said i wont' talk about until 2023 ) isn't turning into same player. He took 30 threes in last 6 games alone. Made 3. How about imply same opinion on him? Don't shoot if you can't hit anything?

But he plays defense... so that's excuse ? Why? Defensive side of a ball and offensive are two independent variables. If you play defense that does not give you green light for offense, and other way around.

Thats crazy. Those numbers are way better then I woulda thought. It does not feel like he shot over 40% from 3 last month. Like not even close. Where do you find those monthly number? Not saying your lying Im just wondering. I do agree with alot of what you said here. I agree that Cole still has the ability to get better but why don't you feel that Suggs can? Why do you acknowledge that Cole can get better but it feels like you don't think Suggs can

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[Bergmaniac]

We have too many guards now, someone needs to be removed from the rotation.

Also, everyone is talking about the late game offense which was certainly an issue, but we still would have won comfortably if the bench unit hadn't collapsed earlier in the 4th and lost almost all of our lead.

[KillMonger]

We have too many guards now, someone needs to be removed from the rotation.

Also, everyone is talking about the late game offense which was certainly an issue, but we still would have won comfortably if the bench unit hasn't collapsed earlier in the 4th and lost almost all of our lead.

yep...too many cooks in the kitchen....and people want to add ivey to that

[tiderulz]

I wouldn't even have that much of a problem with Cole's disgusting selfishness (ok I'm lying, I still would) if he was actually, you know, good at scoring. Hell if he was good at anything.

Look at Suggs. That guy is struggling *horribly* with his 3PT shooting right now, but he at least contributes positively on the defensive end, as a passer and he's figured out how to score inside the arc. shooting .491 from 2PT and averaging 3.7 FTA since he returned from the thumb injury. His passing/creation for others has also upticked positively since the injury (3.6 AST/3.2 TOV pre thumb compared to 5.2 AST/3.0 TOV post thumb).

Cole really does nothing. Can't make shots. Can't defend. Can't pass.

ughm.. Cole splits in February:
16,5 ppg
5 apg
5 rpg
2,8 turnovers
41,2 FG
42,3% for 3
92% FTs

54,5% TS.

That's actually solid.

Problem with Cole is that he does not know how to pick up his spots. Again, that's back to college issues and me "sh**ing" on him during rookie year where everybody was up in arms with typical " leave him alone he is rookie" BS.
Cole is same player he was at highschool, college, rookie year and now in second year. His delusional confidence is his strenght and his biggest downfall. People last year cheered him for being same player he has always been. He did not change. Perception around him changed.

Basically mini Westbrook scenario. In 2016 people called Durant quitter, in 2017 people called Oladipo trash, in 2018 George & Melo were media whooping boys, in 2019 George was called quitter, in 2020 Harden was quitter, in 2021 Beal was "not that good" and now finally ,7 years later, until he is finally paired with media darling, people and media changed narrative about him and for first time in a decade can see through empty stats.

Cole will be Cole .He will eat masssive usage rate and take awful shots. Cole will also get better at basketball over time maybe to the point where is legit solid starter ( if not more ) because his inner drive is undeniable.
You knew what was going to happen when you made roster without serious backup plan last year when he was promoted to starter ( without backup! ). We knew what was going to happen when you meet delusional confidence with coach without authority. We knew what was going to happen when there is no leadership . He will take over. This is suprise to nobody.

Cole can be your walmart Lamelo Ball type of player if you have somebody to guide him into that direction. But on team where he has 20 shots to take every night, without any serious consequences, wtf did people expected him to be but must worst version of himself -even notorious chucker. It's not like other guard ( who i said i wont' talk about until 2023 ) isn't turning into same player. He took 30 threes in last 6 games alone. Made 3. How about imply same opinion on him? Don't shoot if you can't hit anything?

But he plays defense... so that's excuse ? Why? Defensive side of a ball and offensive are two independent variables. If you play defense that does not give you green light for offense, and other way around.

Thats crazy. Those numbers are way better then I woulda thought. It does not feel like he shot over 40% from 3 last month. Like not even close. Where do you find those monthly number? Not saying your lying Im just wondering. I do agree with alot of what you said here. I agree that Cole still has the ability to get better but why don't you feel that Suggs can? Why do you acknowledge that Cole can get better but it feels like you don't think Suggs can

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if you look a player up on ESPN, and look at game log, they break down the stats per month

[IllMagic04]

We have too many guards now, someone needs to be removed from the rotation.

Also, everyone is talking about the late game offense which was certainly an issue, but we still would have won comfortably if the bench unit hasn't collapsed earlier in the 4th and lost almost all of our lead.

yep...too many cooks in the kitchen....and people want to add ivey to that

Not saying Iveys the guy yet but I want to add whomever has the best chance to be a star. We do have too many cooks but none of them are 5 star chefs. Also when you think about it theres no position we could draft that wouldn't cause a possible log jam or moving on from a young player. We just gotta get the talent and figure it out.

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[Knightro]

yep...too many cooks in the kitchen....and people want to add ivey to that

We have a lot of bad cooks in the kitchen though.

If Ivey's an all-star, and I'm not saying he will be, but if he's an all-star then those other guys don't matter. They can be shipped out.

[yoyojw17]

yep...too many cooks in the kitchen....and people want to add ivey to that

We have a lot of bad cooks in the kitchen though.

If Ivey's an all-star, and I'm not saying he will be, but if he's an all-star then those other guys don't matter. They can be shipped out.

We have too many young cooks in the kitchen. Cooks that were probably great at cooking for their family and friends... but are learning to be Chefs. But if Ivey is an amazing chef... we add him and in time figure out who will be leaving to unclutter the kitchen.

[KillMonger]

We have too many guards now, someone needs to be removed from the rotation.

Also, everyone is talking about the late game offense which was certainly an issue, but we still would have won comfortably if the bench unit hasn't collapsed earlier in the 4th and lost almost all of our lead.

yep...too many cooks in the kitchen....and people want to add ivey to that

Not saying Iveys the guy yet but I want to add whomever has the best chance to be a star. We do have too many cooks but none of them are 5 star chefs. Also when you think about it theres no position we could draft that wouldn't cause a possible log jam or moving on from a young player. We just gotta get the talent and figure it out.

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that much is clear but some people aren't being rational....they want ivey OVER guys like chet/jabari/banchero....i mean i know it's a guard's league these days but lets not go too far

[Knightro]

that much is clear but some people aren't being rational....they want ivey OVER guys like chet/jabari/banchero....i mean i know it's a guard's league these days but lets not go too far

I don't think many people are in that boat.

I think most people on this board have Chet and Jabari above Ivey.

[Skin]

You were blowing him out of proportions 70 days ago.

Did you miss the part where I said I was a doubter on this one???

I was always a doubter on him and then he had a hot streak where he started to hit his shots which made me think he became something that I didn't think he could become... but nope, I was actually right all along. You're a joke pepe. Go find the other thousand posts that I bashed Cole on. I do give you credit for your ability to pick and choose stats... I mean posts to conjure up a narrative.

You can find my sentiments on Cole right on draft night. Onedimensional chucker. My post proved that you were flip-flopping about him.

I said i won't comment on other Magic brick machine slotted at "starting PG" on other thraed until 2023, that's why i didn't make reply on your ludacris "racist" comments. Only joke here is you trying to take victory lap about being "right about cole all along" where in reality you sucking Weltman off about him less than three months ago after few hot games.

Btw i think i should start making my victory laps over Bamba and how poorly he has played. I also wait for you to eat your portion of crows since you were sucking him off for 3 years and telling everybody how he is amazing but "evil Clifford doesn't allow him to shine" and how he will thrive without Vuc.


Now be good boy dinner is ready

Pepe, why do you have an issue with anyone who wants to try to cheer for this team or their players? I really don't get it.

I don't think there is another poster here who is more immature and childish. "Suck this... Suck that... You sucked Weltmann off..." Do you even hear yourself? I don't know how the mods just let these things slide over and over. Shows how much worse these forums have gotten since I first started here. A lot of great posters have left because of trolls like you... or maybe it's just you.

You care more about tracking the rights and wrongs about things that are said than you do about the team. You give no room for adjusting thoughts on a developing player which is ridiculous. If Player X was not liked predraft, then you can't like them 3 years into their career or pepe will search the realgm advanced options logs to make you eat crow! At the same time, you walk around here acting like everything you've ever said is 100% right. If someone admits they were wrong, you throw it in their face and you try to remember it forever and use it for ammo for anything they may ever say again that goes against what you are saying. I've seen you dig up posts for others to try to embarrass them. I just shrugged it off and thought, typical pepe.

But anyone can do what you did there. Case in point...

Pepe predraft... Wanted to trade Bamba and our pick for Cole.

Since this draft created no buzz there is good chance that you can climb your way into top 3-5 picks with trades.
If that's a case i would offer Bamba to get there.
Hornets want a Bamba and Magic 2020 pick for their draft -do it.
Cole Anthony, Deni Avidija, Anthony Edwards, Wiseman , i don't really care who.

Pepe during Cole's breakout...

Cole has been pleasant suprise

I don't think people "hate on Cole"... Cole Anthony isn't terrible player.

Cole is entertaining thing during bad season.

Devonte Graham, much like Cole, started second year of his career shooting lights out, on some epic shooting ( +60% TS) and 7,6 assists. Ofc over time that fizzled out. I think Cole can be bit more effective scorer ( Graham career 53,3% TS for career)

Cole looks really fine on offense when he is hot.

Just for sake of argument, what if Cole is playing like this and it's his contract year, would you give him 4 years $100M exstension based on that? Why not? Cole can be our star

Don't ever tell us how much you hate Cole Anthony. He's your star. Just like RJ Hampton.

I would keep Hampton. I think there is some star potential in Hampton.
He is very athletic, 6'4. His shot isn't broken but will need improvments. He also needs to slow down and not rush everything. But things like that you get with more experience.

While on this research venture, I also got a real kick out of what you used to say about Franz. But I won't share. Let's just keep that as a secret between me and you.

[Skin]

that much is clear but some people aren't being rational....they want ivey OVER guys like chet/jabari/banchero....i mean i know it's a guard's league these days but lets not go too far

I don't think many people are in that boat.

I think most people on this board have Chet and Jabari above Ivey.

It was easier for me to root for Ivey when he was shooting .400+ from 3.

Jabari has solidified the top pick. Chet is skilled, but I worry about his long term durability. Can the Magic really afford to draft a tall lengthy fragile looking 7 footer who weighs less than 200 pounds? This is not a guy who will morph into Giannis.

While others are looking at Keegan and Davis, Benn Mathurin is the one heating up for me now. *Oh my gosh, I changed my mind! Ducks from a pie from pepe*

[pepe1991]

Did you miss the part where I said I was a doubter on this one???

I was always a doubter on him and then he had a hot streak where he started to hit his shots which made me think he became something that I didn't think he could become... but nope, I was actually right all along. You're a joke pepe. Go find the other thousand posts that I bashed Cole on. I do give you credit for your ability to pick and choose stats... I mean posts to conjure up a narrative.

You can find my sentiments on Cole right on draft night. Onedimensional chucker. My post proved that you were flip-flopping about him.

I said i won't comment on other Magic brick machine slotted at "starting PG" on other thraed until 2023, that's why i didn't make reply on your ludacris "racist" comments. Only joke here is you trying to take victory lap about being "right about cole all along" where in reality you sucking Weltman off about him less than three months ago after few hot games.

Btw i think i should start making my victory laps over Bamba and how poorly he has played. I also wait for you to eat your portion of crows since you were sucking him off for 3 years and telling everybody how he is amazing but "evil Clifford doesn't allow him to shine" and how he will thrive without Vuc.


Now be good boy dinner is ready

Pepe, why do you have an issue with anyone who wants to try to cheer for this team or their players? I really don't get it.

I don't think there is another poster here who is more immature and childish. "Suck this... Suck that... You sucked Weltmann off..." Do you even hear yourself? I don't know how the mods just let these things slide over and over. Shows how much worse these forums have gotten since I first started here. A lot of great posters have left because of trolls like you... or maybe it's just you.

You care more about tracking the rights and wrongs about things that are said than you do about the team. You give no room for adjusting thoughts on a developing player which is ridiculous. If Player X was not liked predraft, then you can't like them 3 years into their career or pepe will search the realgm advanced options logs to make you eat crow! At the same time, you walk around here acting like everything you've ever said is 100% right. If someone admits they were wrong, you throw it in their face and you try to remember it forever and use it for ammo for anything they may ever say again that goes against what you are saying. I've seen you dig up posts for others to try to embarrass them. I just shrugged it off and thought, typical pepe.

But anyone can do what you did there. Case in point...

Pepe predraft... Wanted to trade Bamba and our pick for Cole.

Since this draft created no buzz there is good chance that you can climb your way into top 3-5 picks with trades.
If that's a case i would offer Bamba to get there.
Hornets want a Bamba and Magic 2020 pick for their draft -do it.
Cole Anthony, Deni Avidija, Anthony Edwards, Wiseman , i don't really care who.

Pepe during Cole's breakout...

Cole has been pleasant suprise

I don't think people "hate on Cole"... Cole Anthony isn't terrible player.

Cole is entertaining thing during bad season.

Devonte Graham, much like Cole, started second year of his career shooting lights out, on some epic shooting ( +60% TS) and 7,6 assists. Ofc over time that fizzled out. I think Cole can be bit more effective scorer ( Graham career 53,3% TS for career)

Cole looks really fine on offense when he is hot.

Just for sake of argument, what if Cole is playing like this and it's his contract year, would you give him 4 years $100M exstension based on that? Why not? Cole can be our star

Don't ever tell us how much you hate Cole Anthony. He's your star. Just like RJ Hampton.

I would keep Hampton. I think there is some star potential in Hampton.
He is very athletic, 6'4. His shot isn't broken but will need improvments. He also needs to slow down and not rush everything. But things like that you get with more experience.

While on this research venture, I also got a real kick out of what you used to say about Franz. But I won't share. Let's just keep that as a secret between me and you.

But non of those takes are awful nor aged poorly.
Cole is entertaining. Cole, when he is hot, is very good offensive player. Despite having huge lapses during season ,he is still more effective than most other Magic guards.

I still low key like Hampton, he is just too green in basketball world, feels like he didn't play much basketball in his life. We should keep simple for him, not having him do ballhandling & creation things until he grasps basics.

My sentiment on Franz Wagner before draft was very simple. I thought players with his skillet could be founded later. I was wrong. I'm fine with being wrong. He has been spectacular and best Magic rookie since Dwight, by wide margin.
I have no issues eating crows for crap i say if i'm proven wrong.
Funny how in whole reply you never said word about your boy SwOLe BaMBa so i see you are still not ready for eating yours.

Look , there is clear difference between fans who watch nba and think young player will develop and nba fans who watch basketball for +10 years and still think Bamba, Hezonja, Payton can turn into great players after 3+ years of trackrecord to prove them different. Second ones simply don't know basketball as much as they think they do.
If you needed 6 years of Kriss Dunn to figure he can't be your starting PG, fine, but don't be upset if somebody called him not nba player after 2.
If Magic drafted Knox half of people here would still cry how he doesn't have enough chances. And find 500000 different excuses and pointer fingers on everybody but him on his shortcommings.

[IllMagic04]

yep...too many cooks in the kitchen....and people want to add ivey to that

Not saying Iveys the guy yet but I want to add whomever has the best chance to be a star. We do have too many cooks but none of them are 5 star chefs. Also when you think about it theres no position we could draft that wouldn't cause a possible log jam or moving on from a young player. We just gotta get the talent and figure it out.

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that much is clear but some people aren't being rational....they want ivey OVER guys like chet/jabari/banchero....i mean i know it's a guard's league these days but lets not go too far

Why is that irrational? Are those guys that much better prospects or do they fit better? I dont see Chet as a cant miss at all. I need to see it against stiffer competition. Jabari I think is pretty close to a can't miss cause I cant see a senerio where he's not at least a solid streech 5. But as it is a guards leauge its not out of this world thinking to want the guard IF you think he has that kinda upside.

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[Ralof]

can accept the loss,but two things really piss me off

1-this thing we have to distribuite minutes,with questionable rotations,just to keep everyone happy because we are too many,is absurd

2-cole fxxxxxx anthony,really do not know how you can defend him,can not understand why he has to be our go-to-guy or at least one of those ones who play and has the ball in his hands for so much time.

is not even the shots he takes and make sor not,is the quality of the attempts.
he is the classic player who play like believing he is a superstar but the talent is absolutely not there.

[swarlesbarkley]

Davis Bertans has played exactly 81 minutes for the Dallas Mavericks.

Their active rotation is very similar to last year, yet results are dramaticilly different.
Luka, Finney Smith, Hardaway, Powell,Kleber, Brunson, Josh Green were all there last year.

It's clear that it wasn't single player ( or multiple player )difference , they went from 113 def rating to 107,4.
With new coach and new personell they changed defensive scheme where they move & switch more than they used to and also manipulate offensive systems shrinking into a paint and rotating for recover. That allows them to keep teams on both: low 3 FGA and very very low 3%.

You can find on youtube videos about their defense , but main point is that they changed system and now are good defensive team for first time since 2011-12 season. ( literally, first time cracking back into top 10 since championsihp)

I agree with you that the Mavs defense has improved due to scheme. It was just ridiculous to use a trade that happened 2 weeks ago to make your point when defensive numbers for Dallas have been improving since November. Trying to show you that even though sometimes you make good points you often ruin it with whatever piece of data you try to use to prove it.

[KillMonger]

Not saying Iveys the guy yet but I want to add whomever has the best chance to be a star. We do have too many cooks but none of them are 5 star chefs. Also when you think about it theres no position we could draft that wouldn't cause a possible log jam or moving on from a young player. We just gotta get the talent and figure it out.

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that much is clear but some people aren't being rational....they want ivey OVER guys like chet/jabari/banchero....i mean i know it's a guard's league these days but lets not go too far

Why is that irrational? Are those guys that much better prospects or do they fit better? I dont see Chet as a cant miss at all. I need to see it against stiffer competition. Jabari I think is pretty close to a can't miss cause I cant see a senerio where he's not at least a solid streech 5. But as it is a guards leauge its not out of this world thinking to want the guard IF you think he has that kinda upside.

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it's irrational because at the top you don't draft style of play over talent....those three guys(Chet/Jabari/Banchero) are clearly bpa

[IllMagic04]

that much is clear but some people aren't being rational....they want ivey OVER guys like chet/jabari/banchero....i mean i know it's a guard's league these days but lets not go too far

Why is that irrational? Are those guys that much better prospects or do they fit better? I dont see Chet as a cant miss at all. I need to see it against stiffer competition. Jabari I think is pretty close to a can't miss cause I cant see a senerio where he's not at least a solid streech 5. But as it is a guards leauge its not out of this world thinking to want the guard IF you think he has that kinda upside.

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it's irrational because at the top you don't draft style of play over talent....those three guys(Chet/Jabari/Banchero) are clearly bpa

Maybe its not stlye of play. Maybe they think Ivy has a higher upside. I personally like Ivy over Banchero. Im not 100 sold on Chet yet either. So I dont agree that they are clearly the top 3

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[KillMonger]

Why is that irrational? Are those guys that much better prospects or do they fit better? I dont see Chet as a cant miss at all. I need to see it against stiffer competition. Jabari I think is pretty close to a can't miss cause I cant see a senerio where he's not at least a solid streech 5. But as it is a guards leauge its not out of this world thinking to want the guard IF you think he has that kinda upside.

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it's irrational because at the top you don't draft style of play over talent....those three guys(Chet/Jabari/Banchero) are clearly bpa

Maybe its not stlye of play. Maybe they think Ivy has a higher upside. I personally like Ivy over Banchero. Im not 100 sold on Chet yet either. So I dont agree that they are clearly the top 3

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ok fair enough....nothing ivey is showing on the court right now says he's better than those 3 to me but that's just me....we'll see....situation is still fluid so i'm open to revisions

[The Effect]

ughm.. Cole splits in February:
16,5 ppg
5 apg
5 rpg
2,8 turnovers
41,2 FG
42,3% for 3
92% FTs

54,5% TS.

That's actually solid.

Problem with Cole is that he does not know how to pick up his spots. Again, that's back to college issues and me "sh**ing" on him during rookie year where everybody was up in arms with typical " leave him alone he is rookie" BS.
Cole is same player he was at highschool, college, rookie year and now in second year. His delusional confidence is his strenght and his biggest downfall. People last year cheered him for being same player he has always been. He did not change. Perception around him changed.

Basically mini Westbrook scenario. In 2016 people called Durant quitter, in 2017 people called Oladipo trash, in 2018 George & Melo were media whooping boys, in 2019 George was called quitter, in 2020 Harden was quitter, in 2021 Beal was "not that good" and now finally ,7 years later, until he is finally paired with media darling, people and media changed narrative about him and for first time in a decade can see through empty stats.

Cole will be Cole .He will eat masssive usage rate and take awful shots. Cole will also get better at basketball over time maybe to the point where is legit solid starter ( if not more ) because his inner drive is undeniable.
You knew what was going to happen when you made roster without serious backup plan last year when he was promoted to starter ( without backup! ). We knew what was going to happen when you meet delusional confidence with coach without authority. We knew what was going to happen when there is no leadership . He will take over. This is suprise to nobody.

Cole can be your walmart Lamelo Ball type of player if you have somebody to guide him into that direction. But on team where he has 20 shots to take every night, without any serious consequences, wtf did people expected him to be but must worst version of himself -even notorious chucker. It's not like other guard ( who i said i wont' talk about until 2023 ) isn't turning into same player. He took 30 threes in last 6 games alone. Made 3. How about imply same opinion on him? Don't shoot if you can't hit anything?

But he plays defense... so that's excuse ? Why? Defensive side of a ball and offensive are two independent variables. If you play defense that does not give you green light for offense, and other way around.

Thats crazy. Those numbers are way better then I woulda thought. It does not feel like he shot over 40% from 3 last month. Like not even close. Where do you find those monthly number? Not saying your lying Im just wondering. I do agree with alot of what you said here. I agree that Cole still has the ability to get better but why don't you feel that Suggs can? Why do you acknowledge that Cole can get better but it feels like you don't think Suggs can

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if you look a player up on ESPN, and look at game log, they break down the stats per month

or look at "splits" on their page

[MasterGMer]

I think Cole can play better than how he plays now and I also think Cole has the ability to knock down those 3s consistently.

Maybe it is because of his earlier injury or maybe his mind is not on basketball. i don't know. But I believe he has the ability.

Cole needs to prove people wrong. But he has to play a lot better