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Re: Welcome our new skilled big WCJ 

Post#61 » by tiderulz » Fri Mar 4, 2022 1:27 pm

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richi_v25 wrote:Franz has been getting alot of love and he should be but the guy I'm really happy with this year is WCjr. He's starting to become almost Vuc like with his guaranteed stats and that's despite always getting his eyes/goggles poked around poor guy.


Fundamentally sounded big that showed improvment this year.
Good example you don't have to be most gifted player to be productive one, just play hard, focus on your weaknseses, get better at your strenghts, do little things and good things will happen.

this actually surprised me since you have kinda cr#pped on WCJ most of the year
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Re: Welcome our new skilled big WCJ 

Post#62 » by PrimeThyme » Fri Mar 4, 2022 3:20 pm

I spent a lot of time digging into tape on WCJ when we traded for him. One of the reasons I was exceptionally high on the trade for us is because after doing so, I saw how valuable of a player WCJ could become. He was already a borderline walking double-double in Chicago, but due to various factors (injuries, role, roster, confidence) he couldn't consistently put it all together.

I'd love to see Clifford start to develop his stretch 5 game as he did with Vuc. I can guarantee you that WCJ will play for him. He's a great screen setter, PnP threat, as well as a solid rebounder. Clifford is going to be tasked with breaking him out of his shell offensively which I think he's going to be able to do. There is a skillset to work with.


This was my post earlier in this thread, && I think for the most part this is what has happened. I give more credit to Mosley here than Clifford, but I think the biggest development with WCJ this year is an increase in confidence.

Alot of the things he's done this season are things he did in flashes in Chicago. I posted earlier in this thread highlights showcasing that, but the biggest thing is he's had the green light to consistently experiment this year with his game offensively and he's only grown as a player as his confidence in his abilities have.

This continues to be my favorite comp:

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Re: Welcome our new skilled big WCJ 

Post#63 » by pepe1991 » Fri Mar 4, 2022 3:20 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:
richi_v25 wrote:Franz has been getting alot of love and he should be but the guy I'm really happy with this year is WCjr. He's starting to become almost Vuc like with his guaranteed stats and that's despite always getting his eyes/goggles poked around poor guy.


Fundamentally sounded big that showed improvment this year.
Good example you don't have to be most gifted player to be productive one, just play hard, focus on your weaknseses, get better at your strenghts, do little things and good things will happen.

this actually surprised me since you have kinda cr#pped on WCJ most of the year


I would critic him in situations when he plays C next to streach PFs , in that scenarios Magic get crushed on glass.
But he is effective, expended his game to 3 point shot, gets some fouls, pulls rebounds. That's pretty much all you can ask for player at his price range.
Probably key was to finally stay healthy to improve.
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Re: Welcome our new skilled big WCJ 

Post#64 » by tiderulz » Fri Mar 4, 2022 4:12 pm

PrimeThyme wrote:I spent a lot of time digging into tape on WCJ when we traded for him. One of the reasons I was exceptionally high on the trade for us is because after doing so, I saw how valuable of a player WCJ could become. He was already a borderline walking double-double in Chicago, but due to various factors (injuries, role, roster, confidence) he couldn't consistently put it all together.

I'd love to see Clifford start to develop his stretch 5 game as he did with Vuc. I can guarantee you that WCJ will play for him. He's a great screen setter, PnP threat, as well as a solid rebounder. Clifford is going to be tasked with breaking him out of his shell offensively which I think he's going to be able to do. There is a skillset to work with.


This was my post earlier in this thread, && I think for the most part this is what has happened. I give more credit to Mosley here than Clifford, but I think the biggest development with WCJ this year is an increase in confidence.

Alot of the things he's done this season are things he did in flashes in Chicago. I posted earlier in this thread highlights showcasing that, but the biggest thing is he's had the green light to consistently experiment this year with his game offensively and he's only grown as a player as his confidence in his abilities have.

This continues to be my favorite comp:

Spoiler:
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i'd love to see that comp, but he has a long way to go to be near Horford defensively

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