2021-2022 Regular Season Game 67: Orlando Magic (16-50) at New Orleans Pelicans (27-38) - 3/9/22 - 8pm ET

[drsd]

Magic hold on for a solid road victory.

[drsd]

Every win is meaningless when you're 17-50.

With this win and the Hawks loss, it is still mathematically possible for Orlando to make the play-ins!
(( the magic-number is ZERO currently, a Magic loss or a Hawks win and the Magic is out of the post-season ))


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[Magic_Kingdom]

I don't think you can accuse Mosley of neglecting the tank on this one. Playing T-Ross, Chuma and R.J. is not a recipe for an NBA victory. It just happened.

In fact I think Mosley actually did what he could. Cole, Bamba and Franz were all shooting well, and none played more than 25 minutes. The Pelicans won the second half 61-52. Sometimes there's not much they can do short of quitting.

[Skybox]

I just don't know why TRoss can't be a solid player now and next year...he has just sucked this season, but he has brought much the last few years. He's tanked his own trade value to zero - only reason he's still here. So puzzling. I recognize he's never been efficient, but he's occasionally been so spectacular in that flamethrower role over the years.

[KillMonger]

I just don't know why TRoss can't be a solid player now and next year...he has just sucked this season, but he has brought much the last few years. He's tanked his own trade value to zero - only reason he's still here. So puzzling. I recognize he's never been efficient, but he's occasionally been so spectacular in that flamethrower role over the years.

should've got value for him when we could....now i'm not sure we can even get 1 second rounder for him

[BlueBalls]

I just don't know why TRoss can't be a solid player now and next year...he has just sucked this season, but he has brought much the last few years. He's tanked his own trade value to zero - only reason he's still here. So puzzling. I recognize he's never been efficient, but he's occasionally been so spectacular in that flamethrower role over the years.

He should have been dealt at the deadline. Even for a 2nd. He offers no value other than being fun to watch once every 3 weeks.

[pepe1991]

I just don't know why TRoss can't be a solid player now and next year...he has just sucked this season, but he has brought much the last few years. He's tanked his own trade value to zero - only reason he's still here. So puzzling. I recognize he's never been efficient, but he's occasionally been so spectacular in that flamethrower role over the years.

He should have been dealt at the deadline. Even for a 2nd. He offers no value other than being fun to watch once every 3 weeks.

He declined as player.

Just look at his efficiency from in last 4 years:
2018-19 : 53,4% eFG
2019-20: 50,8% eFG
2020-21: 48,5% efG
2021-22 : 47,0% eFG

similar is with his TS, from 56% , 54,8%, 53% to now 51,8%

issue with his TS is in general main reason why nobody was willing to buy him. He still takes 20% usage off team, his production is declining and he was never good at drawing fouls, therfore even at his apsolue best, his efficiency was just 1% over league average, and below average for every year after.

Four seasons ago we were running 4,7 setshots for his catch and shoot ( 38,7% accuracy for 3, 57% eFG)
Last year 3,5 setshots for 36,6% ( 53,8% eFG)
This year 2,7 s, on 30,9% and 47% eFG.

So not only that his touches almost got splitted in half over 4 years but his efficiency dropped by whooping 10%.

Two potential reasons,
1) i already mentioned it, he just got older , step slower
2) he simply does not give a f***.

And truth is probably little bit of both. Being 30 years old stuck on team with 17-50 record and with bunch of teenagers isn't fun for him. Guy has two kids, what is there for him to talk about with kids like Hampton and Cole who are filiming themselfs hitting pillats ball with their nuts ?

[MartinsIzAfraud]

I just don't know why TRoss can't be a solid player now and next year...he has just sucked this season, but he has brought much the last few years. He's tanked his own trade value to zero - only reason he's still here. So puzzling. I recognize he's never been efficient, but he's occasionally been so spectacular in that flamethrower role over the years.

I honestly think the FO asked him if he wanted to stay, he has 2 kids, has a beautiful home in Bay Hill area & loves being in Florida. The FO needed a vet who can still play basketball and help the roster of kids that we have. He seems like the perfect mix between vet and young enough that he can relate and teach them. Will be really interesting to see if next year we see some more stuff run for him vs what we're seeing now.

[Skybox]

I just don't know why TRoss can't be a solid player now and next year...he has just sucked this season, but he has brought much the last few years. He's tanked his own trade value to zero - only reason he's still here. So puzzling. I recognize he's never been efficient, but he's occasionally been so spectacular in that flamethrower role over the years.

He should have been dealt at the deadline. Even for a 2nd. He offers no value other than being fun to watch once every 3 weeks.

He declined as player.

Two potential reasons,
1) i already mentioned it, he just got older , step slower
2) he simply does not give a f***.

Yep. I'm definitely not defending his crappy effort...I really think it's primarily #2. The guy has all the tools and a perfect NBA body...such a waste (not saying he's not a nice guy). Michael Jordan's body with Bamba's mindset.

[pepe1991]

He should have been dealt at the deadline. Even for a 2nd. He offers no value other than being fun to watch once every 3 weeks.

He declined as player.

Two potential reasons,
1) i already mentioned it, he just got older , step slower
2) he simply does not give a f***.

Yep. I'm definitely not defending his crappy effort...I really think it's primarily #2. The guy has all the tools and a perfect NBA body...such a waste (not saying he's not a nice guy). Michael Jordan's body with Bamba's mindset.

When i was young kid in highschool i thought the same about JR Smith when he arived in Denver. There is that 21 years old kid, who can shoot lights out, who is 6'6, 225 pounds athletical marvel with whooping 44 inch vertical. Dude literally dunked 360 allyoop in middle of a freaking game....

Than... years and years and years later, i stumble across interview with Nuggets assistent coach that tells that JR Smith needed to be carried around during morning practices because he was drunk or high on weed or whatever he was using at times. And it puts in perspective why somebody blessed with basically everything from toolbox can have, ends up having mediocre bench scoring role for whole career.

[ChosenSavior]

Had a chance to watch this game this morning. Cole played with much better control compared to the Phoenix game. Did a good job scoring when the Pelicans were making their run in the 3rd quarter. Wish he would chill with the one handed cross court passes though. A better defensive team picks those off consistently. Either way, I liked the way Cole approached the game.

I would have liked to see us run things through Franz more but credit to him for his off-ball movement and hustle. That activity allowed him to make a better impact on the offensive end this time around compared to his game against the Suns. Just shows how capable he is to adapting to a role. Solid bounce back game from him. Wendell was rock solid on both ends. Got good play off the bench from Harris, Ross (in the 4th), Moe and solid contribution from Chuma even though his stats don't show it.

Orlando 100% was trying to tank this game with Mosley staying with that 2nd unit for so long lol. Pelicans just could not get over the hump. In any event, we are going to need some luck in this lottery for once.

[KillMonger]

I just don't know why TRoss can't be a solid player now and next year...he has just sucked this season, but he has brought much the last few years. He's tanked his own trade value to zero - only reason he's still here. So puzzling. I recognize he's never been efficient, but he's occasionally been so spectacular in that flamethrower role over the years.

I honestly think the FO asked him if he wanted to stay, he has 2 kids, has a beautiful home in Bay Hill area & loves being in Florida. The FO needed a vet who can still play basketball and help the roster of kids that we have. He seems like the perfect mix between vet and young enough that he can relate and teach them. Will be really interesting to see if next year we see some more stuff run for him vs what we're seeing now.

Teach them?



i mean what can he teach them? how to have the worst shot selection in the league? or how to turn over the ball by jumping in the air with no one to pass it to.... how about how to be undisciplined by fouling jumpshooters? yeah they can learn a lot

[neuraldarwinism]

incredibly shortsighted to milk vets and backups on a good team for a road win. we still have okc twice and pistons one more time. a real possibility we fall to 4th best odds.

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