The case for Chet Holmgren

[orthoman]

I am curious as to how the Forum feels about drafting Chet Holmgren, if we were fortunate to be positioned in the draft to select him?

Does he have the potential to be another Nikola Jokic' ?

Is his skillset so superior to Bambas' to justify him being our pick, thereby possibly accelerating our transition away from Bamba?

Does his extremely thin frame present a liability?

In another thread, I concurred with the argument for Jaden Ivey, that being Ivey would be paired with Fultz, and bringing Suggs' off the bench as a 6th man. Ivey would provide additional ball handling and perimeter shooting, and has a high motor.

Feedback appreciated!

[MoMM]

In the worst case, we could trade him down and get some extra assets.

[Ralof]

he is my #1 prospect right now.

just saw material of the top four prospects an to me is the only one(maybe with smith shooting unlimited potential )to have a chance to be a franchise-changer in few years.

and indeed i mean with defensive impact.
to me could be what Isaac was starting to be those 35 games in 19-20 before injuries,a terrific mobile defensive nightmare for everyone is inside or around the paint.

not worried about his frame,my concern is about his defensive QI,because he will have to become elite quickly in that area to compensate his phisical limitations,to be clear i am talking about fouls trouble.

if he understand how to play,he learns and the nba game is not too fast for him,think is the #1 pick for me,also cause offensively showed he can shoot spot-up and being effective around the rim.

EDIT:as for j.smith the fact he could fit so well with wcj is a good plus

[drsd]

In the worst case, we could trade him down and get some extra assets.

Orlando will draft BPA, even if it is Holmgren. Orlando need not play Mr. BPA. There is a very real chance for a major trade in the off-season.


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[tiderulz]

Holmgren definitely not a Jokic type of player. I agree with Ralof, he could be what we wanted/expected from Isaac. He has already shown almost elite big man 3 pt range at 39% and elite shot blocking skills.

[Skybox]

First of all, (from the OP)...Bamba should have zero effect on draft considerations.

I don't think being so skinny is a guarantee of injuries, but I do think it's a serious limitation on what impact a player can have. I just think his fiery demeanor and skill set are great, but stronger players - even guards, will just bounce him out of their way. College is a whole different world, especially when you don't routinely play the very best teams. His frame, IMO, does not suggest he will ever be much differently put-together...He may well be the best pick, but I'm not excited about him. I think the Isaac comparison, defensively, is extremely optimistic (other than the weak-side shot blocking). Isaac, at his best, is so much more defensively than that...I'll be interested and supportive of just about any of the top 4, but I feel like Jabari is the safest pick - and I hate thinking "safe" after watching this horror of a tank job to get here.

[VFX]

He’s going to be a potentially elite defender that can stretch the floor. That’s about it. Definitely an intriguing skill set, but you can’t overlook his frame and size.

I don’t believe he’s going to be creating offense like a Jokic or Embiid. He isn’t a #1 option on a good team, but possibly can be on a bad one.

[fateis007]

too skinny for me. tired of projects with potential. Unless its a scoring phenom like Durant, i take the chance. the dude is 7 ft and weights like 200 lbs. imagine him going up against Carter Jr in the NBA? Dude easily has 80 lbs on him

[tiderulz]

First of all, (from the OP)...Bamba should have zero effect on draft considerations.

I don't think being so skinny is a guarantee of injuries, but I do think it's a serious limitation on what impact a player can have. I just think his fiery demeanor and skill set are great, but stronger players - even guards, will just bounce him out of their way. College is a whole different world, especially when you don't routinely play the very best teams. His frame, IMO, does not suggest he will ever be much differently put-together...He may well be the best pick, but I'm not excited about him. I think the Isaac comparison, defensively, is extremely optimistic (other than the weak-side shot blocking). Isaac, at his best, is so much more defensively than that...I'll be interested and supportive of just about any of the top 4, but I feel like Jabari is the safest pick - and I hate thinking "safe" after watching this horror of a tank job to get here.

I think Isaac's defense is starting to reach Paul Bunyan territory. He was good, but against the top players he was just as average as everyone else

i do agree with you that while Chet may be a very good pick, im not exactly excited about him either. And Jabari would be a safe pick, but maybe the lowest ceiling.

[Ralof]

those type of rim-protection that Homgren could(supposedly)give is simply priceless in today nba.
a 4 who can float around the field altering shots is what could boost a good defence into being an amazing one.
(and the guy seems he could be a decent spot up shooter and a decent passer on offense).

about his one on one/post defence vecenie explained quite clear: yes basically anyone gonna move him in the post,but at some point they will have to shot and they are gonna have in front of them endless tentacles.

point is:can he learn how to handle those situations and not foul everytime??beside that,in college his feet were quick enough to often recover when found out of position,in nba we do not know.

[RichCollab]

Tier1 is Chet and Jabari Smith. It would be great to get either one.

[RookieStar]

That's why he is number #1 for me over Jabari and Paolo.

I'm having a hard time comparing him to a NBA player. Jabari for me is like Rashard Lewis, Paolo like a prime Julius Randle... Chet OTH... maybe a hybrid of multiple nba stars? I think, his body and defense reminds me of KG-wolves, his shooting from the outside and dribbling ability maybe KD... I dunno..