Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXIII Off-Season Edition)

[OrlandO]

ok glad it's old, still annoying. but I was about to go to my backyard and burn my dwight jersey lol

I'm sure you will do that anyway when he finally gets traded or walks...

[Mag1c Nat10n 12]

ok glad it's old, still annoying. but I was about to go to my backyard and burn my dwight jersey lol

I'm sure you will do that anyway when he finally gets traded or walks...

RealGM edition of a Dwight jersey bonfire? anyone?

[cb1115]

We will not stoop to that level. I WON'T ALLOW IT.

[Bensational]

i posted this on page 89 of the last thread, and now there's talks of Philly coming on board... let's see if i hit the mark.

with the 6ers amnestying Brand, they've got a hole to fill in the front court. so.... they sign Nick Young!

Hawes
Young?
Iggy/Turner
Young/Meeks
Holiday

Iggy has to be gone. i still hope we can swing a deal for him, based on BBD or Anderson. even if we trade for Bynum, i'd like to make a move for Iggy.

LAL: Dwight + Hedo
PHI: BBD + McRoberts + MWP
ORL: Bynum + Iggy + Ebanks

Philly most likely scoff at this deal, but it gets them 2 good value big men, one who's capable of playing C when Hawes goes down, and a perimeter defender to take over from Iggy.

Bynum/OQuinn
Anderson/Nicholson
Iggy/Ebanks
JJ/Liggins
Nelson/Bledsoe/Duhon

[rcklsscognition]

Wow, MWP getting in on the troll. Why we get trolled so hard in Orlando? I have lived in so many sports cities and followed their teams but this is on another level. Unlike most markets, there are no Orlando homers in national or even local reporting.

[The Effect]

i posted this on page 89 of the last thread, and now there's talks of Philly coming on board... let's see if i hit the mark.

with the 6ers amnestying Brand, they've got a hole to fill in the front court. so.... they sign Nick Young!

Hawes
Young?
Iggy/Turner
Young/Meeks
Holiday

Iggy has to be gone. i still hope we can swing a deal for him, based on BBD or Anderson. even if we trade for Bynum, i'd like to make a move for Iggy.

LAL: Dwight + Hedo
PHI: BBD + McRoberts + MWP
ORL: Bynum + Iggy + Ebanks

Philly most likely scoff at this deal, but it gets them 2 good value big men, one who's capable of playing C when Hawes goes down, and a perimeter defender to take over from Iggy.

Bynum/OQuinn
Anderson/Nicholson
Iggy/Ebanks
JJ/Liggins
Nelson/Bledsoe/Duhon

If we could actually get Bynum and Iggy out of this i think i would finally be happy with a trade proposal besides the houston one.

Everyone knows i cant stand bynum and dont want him to be the center piece of this team going forward BUT a bynum/iggy combo would be real nice return for howard. I would prefer we keep BBD and instead trade away Anderson, but wouldnt make that a deal breaker

[rcklsscognition]

i posted this on page 89 of the last thread, and now there's talks of Philly coming on board... let's see if i hit the mark.

with the 6ers amnestying Brand, they've got a hole to fill in the front court. so.... they sign Nick Young!

Hawes
Young?
Iggy/Turner
Young/Meeks
Holiday

Iggy has to be gone. i still hope we can swing a deal for him, based on BBD or Anderson. even if we trade for Bynum, i'd like to make a move for Iggy.

LAL: Dwight + Hedo
PHI: BBD + McRoberts + MWP
ORL: Bynum + Iggy + Ebanks

Philly most likely scoff at this deal, but it gets them 2 good value big men, one who's capable of playing C when Hawes goes down, and a perimeter defender to take over from Iggy.

Bynum/OQuinn
Anderson/Nicholson
Iggy/Ebanks
JJ/Liggins
Nelson/Bledsoe/Duhon

If we could actually get Bynum and Iggy out of this i think i would finally be happy with a trade proposal besides the houston one.

Everyone knows i cant stand bynum and dont want him to be the center piece of this team going forward BUT a bynum/iggy combo would be real nice return for howard. I would prefer we keep BBD and instead trade away Anderson, but wouldnt make that a deal breaker

Welcome to the dark side, we've been waiting for you.

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

When was that photo from?

[deadpoolx2k6]

As a Philly fan I don't think there's any way you guys could get us to trade you Iguodala. Here's how I see a 3 way deal going down betwen these teams.

Phi trades
Andre Iguodala
Thad Young

Phi Receives
Pau Gasol
JJ Redick

Orl trades
Dwight Howard
JJ Redick
Hedo Turkoglu

Orl receives
Andrew Bynum
Thad Young
Josh McRoberts


Lal trades
Andrew Bynum
Pau Gasol
Josh McRoberts

Lal receives
Andre iguodala
Dwight Howard
Hedo Turkoglu

Other pieces could be involved like JRich's contract, Nic Vucevic, Metta World Peace, or maybe even a sign and trade of Anderson or Lou WIlliams. But I think that the above is a pretty good deal for all involved teams.

[SolidSnake008]

When was that photo from?

i think it was when they first introduced the new jerseys Adidas was trying to pimp.....2010 i believe

[bigmoe1952]

I hope the Magic do not "roll the dice" on Howard. It will come up "snake eyes". Because they would be dealing with a snake. Let him take his rattle and go elsewhere. It would be nice to get some fresh, young talent. Get them BEFORE they morph into spoiled, narcissistic malcontents with a deadly venom that poisons the entire franchise.

[The Effect]

As a Philly fan I don't think there's any way you guys could get us to trade you Iguodala. Here's how I see a 3 way deal going down betwen these teams.

Phi trades
Andre Iguodala
Thad Young

Phi Receives
Pau Gasol
JJ Redick

Orl trades
Dwight Howard
JJ Redick
Hedo Turkoglu

Orl receives
Andrew Bynum
Thad Young
Josh McRoberts


Lal trades
Andrew Bynum
Pau Gasol
Josh McRoberts

Lal receives
Andre iguodala
Dwight Howard
Hedo Turkoglu

Other pieces could be involved like JRich's contract, Nic Vucevic, Metta World Peace, or maybe even a sign and trade of Anderson or Lou WIlliams. But I think that the above is a pretty good deal for all involved teams.

If we trade away JJ and only get Thad in return, i might just snap!
Hate trading for bynum in the first place, but to include JJ and not get back iggy? **** THAT!!!

[OrlandO]

Who cares about the hat, remember these?

[Ahmadab]

As a Philly fan I don't think there's any way you guys could get us to trade you Iguodala. Here's how I see a 3 way deal going down betwen these teams.

Phi trades
Andre Iguodala
Thad Young

Phi Receives
Pau Gasol
JJ Redick

Orl trades
Dwight Howard
JJ Redick
Hedo Turkoglu

Orl receives
Andrew Bynum
Thad Young
Josh McRoberts


Lal trades
Andrew Bynum
Pau Gasol
Josh McRoberts

Lal receives
Andre iguodala
Dwight Howard
Hedo Turkoglu

Other pieces could be involved like JRich's contract, Nic Vucevic, Metta World Peace, or maybe even a sign and trade of Anderson or Lou WIlliams. But I think that the above is a pretty good deal for all involved teams.

If we trade away JJ and only get Thad in return, i might just snap!
Hate trading for bynum in the first place, but to include JJ and not get back iggy? **** THAT!!!

Thad has more value than JJ

[Bensational]

i don't see the Lakers giving up Pau, unless they have some kind of salary concerns. Pau is much better than what he'd fetch on the open market - and he's much better than Iggy. if Philly could get Pau and JJ for Iggy and Thad then it's highway robbery for them. Iggy wouldn't make the Lakers any better - he would become nothing more than a perimeter defender in LA, since he'd have Kobe, Dwight and Nash in front of him as offensive options.

let's be honest - Iggy put up 12ppg this season. he's regressing as a scorer and embracing the role of facilitator and defensive anchor more. but his performance isn't worth $14M. he's a glorified version of what we get out of Hedo - but relatively much better value than Hedo as well.

i just don't think Philly will be getting much more for Iggy than salary dump options or, if they're lucky, swapping him for an overpriced up and comer - like Ryan Anderson.

[deadpoolx2k6]

i don't see the Lakers giving up Pau, unless they have some kind of salary concerns. Pau is much better than what he'd fetch on the open market - and he's much better than Iggy. if Philly could get Pau and JJ for Iggy and Thad then it's highway robbery for them. Iggy wouldn't make the Lakers any better - he would become nothing more than a perimeter defender in LA, since he'd have Kobe, Dwight and Nash in front of him as offensive options.

let's be honest - Iggy put up 12ppg this season. he's regressing as a scorer and embracing the role of facilitator and defensive anchor more. but his performance isn't worth $14M. he's a glorified version of what we get out of Hedo - but relatively much better value than Hedo as well.

i just don't think Philly will be getting much more for Iggy than salary dump options or, if they're lucky, swapping him for an overpriced up and comer - like Ryan Anderson.

Iguodala for Anderson is pretty unlikely with Ilyasova and Humphries out there as options at PF for us.

You could be right about LA keeping Gasol. IMO though, I'd rather have Iguodala than Gasol if I'm LA.

I think Iguodala's points go up playing in LA. There will be easier buckets to be had playing alongside Nash, and with Kobe and Howard commanding the D's attention he could have his fair share of open looks from 3. 16/6/4 sounds about right imo, plus lockdown defense on the opposing team's best wing player. Well worth his price tag.

Plus, in a couple of years it'll be Iguodala and Howard as Vets looking to lure FA's to LA, as Kobe and Nash ride off into the sunset.

[Bensational]

You could be right about LA keeping Gasol. IMO though, I'd rather have Iguodala than Gasol if I'm LA.

I think Iguodala's points go up playing in LA. There will be easier buckets to be had playing alongside Nash, and with Kobe and Howard commanding the D's attention he could have his fair share of open looks from 3. 16/6/4 sounds about right imo, plus lockdown defense on the opposing team's best wing player. Well worth his price tag.

Plus, in a couple of years it'll be Iguodala and Howard as Vets looking to lure FA's to LA, as Kobe and Nash ride off into the sunset.

a Dwight/Gasol front court would be damn beastly, and would cause many more problems for opposing teams than a Dwight/Iggy combo.

right now, the Lakers get what Iggy would give them from Artest and Grant Hill (if he signs). Iggy wouldn't have the ball in his hands enough to be a major playmaker, because Nash and Kobe would sit atop that list. most of all, if Iggy can't establish himself as a dominant scorer on a team with only JRue Holiday and Lou Williams as competition, how's he gonna fair with Kobe, Dwight and Nash?

the Lakers don't need another wing who needs the ball in his hands to be effective, and they probably don't want to spend $14M on a defensive specialist.

sorry, not trying to give you a hard time, i just don't see a match between Philly and LA.

edit - also, considering that there was rumours that Philly could be involved in a deal, i wouldn't be surprised if they were looking to pick up a forward (Anderson/BBD/McRoberts). considering that, i'd imagine the pieces that would be in the mix would be Iggy or Young, and I lean towards Iggy only because they just offered a deal to Nick Young, and they've got Turner ready to step up, and Young can still share time at the 4.

[deadpoolx2k6]

You could be right about LA keeping Gasol. IMO though, I'd rather have Iguodala than Gasol if I'm LA.

I think Iguodala's points go up playing in LA. There will be easier buckets to be had playing alongside Nash, and with Kobe and Howard commanding the D's attention he could have his fair share of open looks from 3. 16/6/4 sounds about right imo, plus lockdown defense on the opposing team's best wing player. Well worth his price tag.

Plus, in a couple of years it'll be Iguodala and Howard as Vets looking to lure FA's to LA, as Kobe and Nash ride off into the sunset.

a Dwight/Gasol front court would be damn beastly, and would cause many more problems for opposing teams than a Dwight/Iggy combo.

right now, the Lakers get what Iggy would give them from Artest and Grant Hill (if he signs). Iggy wouldn't have the ball in his hands enough to be a major playmaker, because Nash and Kobe would sit atop that list. most of all, if Iggy can't establish himself as a dominant scorer on a team with only JRue Holiday and Lou Williams as competition, how's he gonna fair with Kobe, Dwight and Nash?

the Lakers don't need another wing who needs the ball in his hands to be effective, and they probably don't want to spend $14M on a defensive specialist.

sorry, not trying to give you a hard time, i just don't see a match between Philly and LA.

edit - also, considering that there was rumours that Philly could be involved in a deal, i wouldn't be surprised if they were looking to pick up a forward (Anderson/BBD/McRoberts). considering that, i'd imagine the pieces that would be in the mix would be Iggy or Young, and I lean towards Iggy only because they just offered a deal to Nick Young, and they've got Turner ready to step up, and Young can still share time at the 4.

No I get what you're saying. Let's face it though, whatever direction LA decides to go in their situation is going to be about 10 times better than either of ours, lol.

I think defensively they're a better team with Iguodala/Howard than Gasol/Howard, but offensively they are better with Gasol/Howard. MWP is still a good defender but Iguodala's one of the best in the league, and arguably the best wing defender in the league. Iguodala's also 3 & 1/2 years younger than Gasol, and could still be part of a nucleus for life after Kobe in LA.

But I see your point. It'll be harder to replace Gasol's offense at PF. A Hill/Artest combo at SF is actually something attainable for them. I'm not sure who they could go out and get at PF that would fill Gasol's void. Brand would be a nice option, but I doubt he clears waivers.

So I would not be surprised if they are unwilling to trade Gasol for Iggy now. And Utah's probably out now since they've acquired Marvin Williams, so that means no Al Jefferson for us either. I'd face palm so hard if it was BBD/MWP plus a pick or something for Iggy, lol.

That's not a move we should make. Think I'd rather just let Iguodala opt out next year and try and use the cap space that creates to throw crazy dollars at Harden or another FA.

[spinedoc]

I sure hope its the Lakers. The biggest advantage is sending Dwight out west, and besides Bynum is so much better than Lopez.

not a comment on toughness, but Lopez owns Bynum in head to head matches. Outscores him 24ppg to 7ppg, outrebounded him and got him into foul trouble.

Aw c'mon, there has to be some weird variable as to why that is. Maybe more face up jumpers by Lopez and long rebounds, but like you said, its not based on toughness.

[fendilim]

RT @stevekylerNBA: Not looking good on a Dwight trade... Magic still stuck with things they do not want being offered. Nets saying they may move on.