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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#101 » by arsenal6106 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:31 am

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Yeah he just messaged me this. Weird.

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#102 » by jfinley88 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:34 am

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Latest NBA buzz says Lindsey Hunter likely on way to Magic as assistant coach and Eddie Jordan to Lakers in same role.
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Post#103 » by blue and white » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:52 am

jfinley88 wrote:Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO
Latest NBA buzz says Lindsey Hunter likely on way to Magic as assistant coach and Eddie Jordan to Lakers in same role.

just saw this, wasnt hunter considered one of the last 3 canidates? if so i like that hire bringing in 2 people you really like.
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Post#104 » by ChildishGambino » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:57 am

despite the slow process..i acknowledge that we are getting quality guys here.....
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#105 » by Bensational » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:08 am

Chet Wagner wrote:That team isn't even possible.

I don't really understand where your idea that we would have money for a max is coming from. Dwight will be a $20.5M cap hold, even if we somehow got rid of 2 years of JRich for an expiring (already leaning towards fantasy) and waived all the others we'd still have more like 10 mil in space, certainly not the 14 or so Harden is going to get

Not to mention S&Ts are ending


magicman123 wrote:dwight: $22mil
jameer: $8.6mil
davis: $6.4mil
jrich: $6.2mil
hedo: $6mil
duhon: $1.5mil

$51mil

add in nicholson and any other rookies, signings etc: ?

plus

Q: $2.8mil player option
Gustavo: $1.5mi lteam option
OTHER CAP HOLDS

good luck on a max contract


we've got a whole bunch of players who could prove to be assets that we can attach liabilities to on outgoing transactions.

JRich is moveable. i struggle to believe that on his MLE sized deal, one year out from being a 20ppg player, that a team like the Wolves/Clippers/Jazz/Spurs/etc wouldn't take a chance on him for an expiring or TPE.

Nicholson, O'Quinn, Ayon and Liggins are all just some solid minutes and a couple good showings away from being coveted by other teams. if they reach that value, we can use them to attach someone like Duhon (which would require a grand sacrifice of $4.5M over 2 seasons for another team).

JJ has an expiring, and hopefully should really blossom and cause his value to peak with a starter role and starter minutes. he's another option that we can use to attach Duhon's/Q's deal to.

BBD has value now. he's shown he can hold his own against Hibbert, who's touted as one of the top 5-10 C's in the league. plus, BBD is on half his salary. i'd prefer to use him to land a bigger piece, but if we have to, we use him as the centerpiece in a deal that ships out some more bad contracts.

i won't pretend to know the deals, but let's hypothetically say we can achieve the following -

JRich to TWolves for TPE.

Ayon/O'Quinn + QRich + future first to Phoenix for TPE.

JJ + Turk to SAS for SJax

we'd be looking at:

dwight: $22mil
jameer: $8.6mil
davis: $6.4mil
Duhon: $1.5mil
Nicholson: $1.5mil
Ayon/O'Quinn: $1.5mil
cap holds for non players (x6): $3mil

= $44.5mil, which is roughly $14mil in cap space, depending on where the cap is set.

$14mil deal for Harden (whatever deal keeps us a shave under the cap)

s&t Iggy @ up to $11.5mil for Iggy, for BBD. (teams close to the cap can allow for up to $5mil discrepancy between incoming and outgoing deals, so add that allowance onto the s&t deal being offered to Iggy)

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Post#106 » by TDJacksonville » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:15 am

Bensational wrote:
Chet Wagner wrote:That team isn't even possible.

I don't really understand where your idea that we would have money for a max is coming from. Dwight will be a $20.5M cap hold, even if we somehow got rid of 2 years of JRich for an expiring (already leaning towards fantasy) and waived all the others we'd still have more like 10 mil in space, certainly not the 14 or so Harden is going to get

Not to mention S&Ts are ending


magicman123 wrote:dwight: $22mil
jameer: $8.6mil
davis: $6.4mil
jrich: $6.2mil
hedo: $6mil
duhon: $1.5mil

$51mil

add in nicholson and any other rookies, signings etc: ?

plus

Q: $2.8mil player option
Gustavo: $1.5mi lteam option
OTHER CAP HOLDS

good luck on a max contract


we've got a whole bunch of players who could prove to be assets that we can attach liabilities to on outgoing transactions.

JRich is moveable. i struggle to believe that on his MLE sized deal, one year out from being a 20ppg player, that a team like the Wolves/Clippers/Jazz/Spurs/etc wouldn't take a chance on him for an expiring or TPE.

Nicholson, O'Quinn, Ayon and Liggins are all just some solid minutes and a couple good showings away from being coveted by other teams. if they reach that value, we can use them to attach someone like Duhon (which would require a grand sacrifice of $4.5M over 2 seasons for another team).

JJ has an expiring, and hopefully should really blossom and cause his value to peak with a starter role and starter minutes. he's another option that we can use to attach Duhon's/Q's deal to.

BBD has value now. he's shown he can hold his own against Hibbert, who's touted as one of the top 5-10 C's in the league. plus, BBD is on half his salary. i'd prefer to use him to land a bigger piece, but if we have to, we use him as the centerpiece in a deal that ships out some more bad contracts.

i won't pretend to know the deals, but let's hypothetically say we can achieve the following -

JRich to TWolves for TPE.

Ayon/O'Quinn + QRich + future first to Phoenix for TPE.

JJ + Turk to SAS for SJax

we'd be looking at:

dwight: $22mil
jameer: $8.6mil
davis: $6.4mil
Duhon: $1.5mil
Nicholson: $1.5mil
Ayon/O'Quinn: $1.5mil
cap holds for non players (x6): $3mil

= $44.5mil, which is roughly $14mil in cap space, depending on where the cap is set.

$14mil deal for Harden (whatever deal keeps us a shave under the cap)

s&t Iggy @ up to $11.5mil for Iggy, for BBD. (teams close to the cap can allow for up to $5mil discrepancy between incoming and outgoing deals, so add that allowance onto the s&t deal being offered to Iggy)

Dwight
Nicholson
Iggy
Harden
Jameer

also like to add we could even use our TPE from the Anderson deal to acquire Iggy
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#107 » by Def Swami » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:16 am

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jfinley88 wrote:Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO
Latest NBA buzz says Lindsey Hunter likely on way to Magic as assistant coach and Eddie Jordan to Lakers in same role.

just saw this, wasnt hunter considered one of the last 3 canidates? if so i like that hire bringing in 2 people you really like.

Why couldn't we get Jordan?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#108 » by Ahmadab » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:17 am

It would be quite nice if we ended up with 2 of our finalists. Henny must be selling a nice concept of the way he's building the team.
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Post#109 » by OrlChamps2030 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:18 am

I'm sorry, but any future plan involving Dwight is a waste of time to talk about.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#110 » by Ahmadab » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:18 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
blue and white wrote:
jfinley88 wrote:Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO
Latest NBA buzz says Lindsey Hunter likely on way to Magic as assistant coach and Eddie Jordan to Lakers in same role.

just saw this, wasnt hunter considered one of the last 3 canidates? if so i like that hire bringing in 2 people you really like.

Wow, Eddie Jordan! I used to be big fan of his. Was a pretty good coach for the Wizards during the Hibachi/Hughes/Jamison years. Great guy to have on our bench as an assistant.

I approve, Henny and Vaughn. Well done.


Jordan will be a Laker dude
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#111 » by Def Swami » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:19 am

Ahmadab wrote:
Jordan will be a Laker dude

I kant reed

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Post#112 » by The Real Dalic » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:30 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Ahmadab wrote:
Jordan will be a Laker dude

I kant reed

my bad

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Post#113 » by pinoynurse » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:37 am

if this is is true, i like it. Hunter was a hard nosed scrappy defender and im sure he will teach the same values to our young players.

well done henny... well done.
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Post#114 » by FRESHsince1983 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:59 am

pinoynurse wrote:if this is is true, i like it. Hunter was a hard nosed scrappy defender and im sure he will teach the same values to our young players.

well done henny... well done.



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Post#115 » by ChildishGambino » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:16 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:
Ahmadab wrote:
Jordan will be a Laker dude

I kant reed

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Post#116 » by ThatFloridaDude » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:18 am

ChildishGambino wrote:despite the slow process..i acknowledge that we are getting quality guys here.....

Agree man Agreed!

by Zmill on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:18 pm

I'm sorry, but any future plan involving Dwight is a waste of time to talk about.


Is why I cut down on my time on internet boards worrying about this guy. Its pointless.

by pinoynurse on Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:37 pm

if this is is true, i like it. Hunter was a hard nosed scrappy defender and im sure he will teach the same values to our young players.

well done henny... well done.

Agreed. Man he gave Orlando issues when we played detroit. I always liked and enjoyed his peskyness .
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Post#117 » by TDJacksonville » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:49 am

the sooner the bitch is gone the better. lets get that deal with houston agreed in principle
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Post#118 » by Swiftraven » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:54 am

TDJacksonville wrote: also like to add we could even use our TPE from the Anderson deal to acquire Iggy

I don't think so. That tpe is only a couple million and can't be combined with players.

Ryan was considered Byc so his deal only counted at half value so the tpe would be like 3 million or something like that.
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Post#119 » by TDJacksonville » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:57 am

Swiftraven wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote: also like to add we could even use our TPE from the Anderson deal to acquire Iggy

I don't think so. That tpe is only a couple million and can't be combined with players.

Ryan was considered Byc so his deal only counted at half value so the tpe would be like 3 million or something like that.

trade a future 2nd round pick for a 3 million dollar expiring that plays PG :)
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLIII Off-Season Editio 

Post#120 » by colamagicfan » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:05 am

please hurry up and trade Howard, these trade ideals are getting more and more off the wall

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