Sources: Charlotte, Chicago and Orlando finalizing trade that includes Mozgov to Magic, Biyombo to Charlotte and Julyan

NickAnderson · Post #101 » by **NickAnderson** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:50 am

So if biz opts out next season we lose this trade

OrlandoDream · Post #102 » by **OrlandoDream** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:51 am

Biz is gone. Thank God!

thelead · Post #103 » by **thelead** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:52 am

NickAnderson wrote:So if biz opts out next season we lose this trade

That was my first thought.... then I remembered that he's making 17 million dollars next season... what are the chances he actually opts out?

Post #104 » by **Howard Mass** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:53 am

Grant will battle for backup minutes.

Magic still need to add a true starter.

This deal also got Biz moved and will be surprised if Mozgov sticks. Just hoping they don't stretch his contract.

chosen12141 · Post #105 » by **chosen12141** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:54 am

matticus90 wrote:Mosgov cannot be a real option to be on the team, if he’s stretched/waived / bought out then we basically just got a backup point for nothing. So it’s not awful.

I was advised that if we used the stretch provision, he will be on the books for 5 years!

He can wear street clothes for 2 seasons! IMHO

Magic_Johnny12 · Post #106 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:54 am

I don’t see how we lost this trade.

Mosgov is owed less than Biyombo and will either be stretched or bought out.

We literally got Grant for free and we need PG help so this makes sense.

It’s a meh trade and at the end of the day I think Orlando won it.

Post #107 » by **Howard Mass** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:54 am

thelead wrote:
NickAnderson wrote:So if biz opts out next season we lose this trade

That was my first thought.... then I remembered that he's making 17 million dollars next season... what are the chances he actually opts out?

No chance he opts out.

PrimeThyme · Post #108 » by **PrimeThyme** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:54 am

WeHam continues to disappoint in the trade department. I've been mostly impressed with their drafting and team friendly deals but their mediocre/lack of trades have been concerning. Hopefully, there are more trades to follow but im seriously starting to think that Vuc and DJ Augustine will be our starters next year.

NickAnderson · Post #109 » by **NickAnderson** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:55 am

thelead wrote:
NickAnderson wrote:So if biz opts out next season we lose this trade

That was my first thought.... then I remembered that he's making 17 million dollars next season... what are the chances he actually opts out?

True but a lot of teams are going to have capspace that offseason

rcklsscognition · Post #110 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:55 am

Would not be surprised if Grant was just some guy Welham had once had their eye on a few years back during that draft. Nothing more.

Nyce_1 · Post #111 » by **Nyce_1** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:57 am

Something lost in all of this, is that this may actually keep the cockroach Nik around. Hahaha

If we trade Vuc, our C rotation is a rookie, Birch, and Mozgov. No way they do that. Vuc is staying to help mentor Mo.

glennathan · Post #112 » by **glennathan** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:58 am

Howard Mass wrote:
thelead wrote:
NickAnderson wrote:So if biz opts out next season we lose this trade

That was my first thought.... then I remembered that he's making 17 million dollars next season... what are the chances he actually opts out?

No chance he opts out.

If we were to buyout Mozgov would his salary still impact the cap space next year??

thelead · Post #113 » by **thelead** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:58 am

PrimeShaq wrote:WeHam continues to disappoint in the trade department. I've been mostly impressed with their drafting and team friendly deals but their mediocre/lack of trades have been concerning. Hopefully, there are more trades to follow but im seriously starting to think that Vuc and DJ Augustine will be our starters next year.

It's just the start of the summer so we'll see but I find it funny that we fired our last GM while (as of now) our starters 2 years later are:

Vuc: Rob's guy
AG: Rob's guy
Ross: Rob's guy (maybe Isaac but we'll see)
Evan: Rob's guy
DJ: Rob's guy

:lol:

Post #114 » by **Howard Mass** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:59 am

glennathan wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:
thelead wrote:That was my first thought.... then I remembered that he's making 17 million dollars next season... what are the chances he actually opts out?

No chance he opts out.
If we were to buyout Mozgov would his salary still impact the cap space next year??

Yes, for two more years.

but if they stretch him, that money will be spread out over 5 years.

MasterGMer · Post #115 » by **MasterGMer** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:59 am

Why would anyone think Vuc and DJ would be starting? I am confused. I do not see the logic at all

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thelead · Post #116 » by **thelead** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 1:59 am

glennathan wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:
thelead wrote:That was my first thought.... then I remembered that he's making 17 million dollars next season... what are the chances he actually opts out?

No chance he opts out.
If we were to buyout Mozgov would his salary still impact the cap space next year??

Yes but if they stretch it, it will count for a while (by a lesser amount). I'm in agreement with Howard, we better not stetch his contract.

Post #117 » by **Howard Mass** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 2:00 am

thelead wrote:
glennathan wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:
No chance he opts out.
If we were to buyout Mozgov would his salary still impact the cap space next year??

Yes but if they stretch it, it will count for a while (by a lesser amount). I'm in agreement with Howard, we better not stetch his contract.

Yes, best to eat it this year and next and then have cap space in 2020 when Biyombo's deal would have come off the cap and Augustin's will be up as well.

glennathan · Post #118 » by **glennathan** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 2:01 am

thelead wrote:
glennathan wrote:
Howard Mass wrote:
No chance he opts out.
If we were to buyout Mozgov would his salary still impact the cap space next year??

Yes but if they stretch it, it will count for a while (by a lesser amount). I'm in agreement with Howard, we better not stetch his contract.

I don't want the stretch option either but I wasn't sure how the buyout worked. Thank you

thelead · Post #119 » by **thelead** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 2:01 am

MasterGMer wrote:Why would anyone think Vuc and DJ would be starting? I am confused. I do not see the logic at all

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Why would you think Bamba would be starting? Isaac didn't start last year and it was the start of the Weltman Hammond era. AG didn't start... Mario didn't start.

And WHO would start over DJ right now?

Post #120 » by **Howard Mass** » Sun Jul 8, 2018 2:02 am

glennathan wrote:
thelead wrote:
glennathan wrote:If we were to buyout Mozgov would his salary still impact the cap space next year??

Yes but if they stretch it, it will count for a while (by a lesser amount). I'm in agreement with Howard, we better not stetch his contract.
I don't want the stretch option either but I wasn't sure how the buyout worked. Thank you

It's possible they buy him out but not stretch him.

If it's a buyout, Magic won't get much money back if anything in it.