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Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba

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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#101 » by YosemiteSam » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:34 pm

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YosemiteSam wrote:I found my posts - I may have been "right" about Bamba, but I also preferred Knox - oof..... an, oh, it was Knightro who made fun of me


For what it's worth, Bamba has still been a lot better than Thabeet despite being bad :lol:


That's true - and he was a different kind of bad as well
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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#102 » by Knightro » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:39 pm

Black and Blue wrote:He is 24 and the consensus is he has room to continue to grow after a career best year last year.

Not a floor spacer, more of a traditional shot blocking big, but he is a high energy guy who had good stats.

This guy would also be best buddies with the Wagners. Half the team bus would be speaking German.


I'm curious to see if there's some untapped shooting potential there.

Tiny sample size, but he did make 14-30 threes this past year. I'd like to see him explore that a little further.
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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#103 » by MAGICian619 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:42 pm

To be honest, letting Bamba walk feels more like a locker room decision than a basketball one. (Not that the basketball reason is very compelling)
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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#104 » by PrimeThyme » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:42 pm

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It was fun going through the first 50 or so pages of this.

My biggest takeaway was how pro-Young most of us were. I had forgotten how even up to the afternoon of the draft most of us thought Young was a certainty and even Woj had him dropping to us. Then the ATL trade happened.

Those are the type of developments that can set your franchise back years. I think most of us knew it. We just couldn’t catch a break last rebuild. Luckily, this one is starting off much better.
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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#105 » by Nyce_1 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:44 pm

S&T Mo for Coffey?
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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#106 » by Black and Blue » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:50 pm

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Black and Blue wrote:He is 24 and the consensus is he has room to continue to grow after a career best year last year.

Not a floor spacer, more of a traditional shot blocking big, but he is a high energy guy who had good stats.

This guy would also be best buddies with the Wagners. Half the team bus would be speaking German.


I'm curious to see if there's some untapped shooting potential there.

Tiny sample size, but he did make 14-30 threes this past year. I'd like to see him explore that a little further.


Great point. It would be interesting to find out if he wanted to take more and was held in check by the system they had there. The Magic become very appealing as a destination if they can offer room for players to explore their own repertoires with minimal pushback.

Hartenstein sounds like a great option if they can get him. He was given an opportunity last year and made the most of it and now the Clippers find he likely priced his way out of returning. He even could work next to WCJ if the latter kicks to PF.
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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#107 » by basketballRob » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:50 pm

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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#108 » by Skybox » Wed Jun 29, 2022 7:50 pm

I would like to hear that we're bringing him back at 3x $8m...or, that deal to Hartenstein...looks like he shot a high 3pt % on very low volume, so I don't know if that's a thing or not.
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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#109 » by Audi » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:00 pm

If Hartenstein actually sets picks, he'd already be a Mo upgrade there
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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#110 » by Ralof » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:00 pm

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can't believe it.
never a fxxxxxg moment of joy with this franchise.

wasting money on a back up center, and making the spacing even worse,if possible at same time

It's Groundhog Day,it's a time-loop,always same mistakes :banghead:
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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#111 » by SOUL » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:01 pm

Ralof wrote:
Knightro wrote:
Read on Twitter


can't believe it.
never a fxxxxxg moment of joy with this franchise.

wasting money on a back up center, and making the spacing even worse,if possible at same time

It's Groundhog Day,it's a time-loop,always same mistakes :banghead:


He was one of the most efficient backups bigs last year.

We had stretches of playing Mo Wagner and Iggy big minutes because of injuries.

For a team that isn't going after a big named FA, seems like a good get...
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Re: Magic do NOT Extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#112 » by drsd » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:19 pm

pepe1991 wrote:Great usage of 6th overall pick that was....


Maybe Mr. #7 is available. Oh .....

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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#113 » by Nyce_1 » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:19 pm

Ralof wrote:
Knightro wrote:
Read on Twitter


can't believe it.
never a fxxxxxg moment of joy with this franchise.

wasting money on a back up center, and making the spacing even worse,if possible at same time

It's Groundhog Day,it's a time-loop,always same mistakes :banghead:
Stop crying.
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Re: Magic do NOT Extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#114 » by drsd » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:22 pm

The Effect wrote:Isaac also at #6 was a much bigger waste



The Magic signed Isaac before the shortened 2021 season to a four-year, $70-million contract.


So Orlando has a 17.5M per backup PF as the outcome of two BtB #6s.
Hmm


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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#115 » by Skybox » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:22 pm

Audi wrote:If Hartenstein actually sets picks, he'd already be a Mo upgrade there


I've been so engrossed in 3pt shooting that I kind of forget that...that could be huge. Picks make the world go round.

But, barring injury :nonono: this shouldn't be a big signing or a big cap hit or a lot of minutes. I'd honestly rather go with Mo's upside and shooting, but it's, hopefully, a small role.
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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#116 » by drsd » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:24 pm

tiderulz wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:If the Magic would have given him the $22 mil qualifying offer, he would have signed it seconds later jumping for joy at getting a $22 mil payday as opposed to signing elsewhere for $8 to $12 mil a year.

it wasnt $22mil. I believe his QO would be $10.1 million


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The cap-hold was 22M, not the contract level of the qualifying offer.

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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#117 » by drsd » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:27 pm

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pepe1991 wrote:I made reply about position issue i had with Bamba pick.
We had no guards whatsoever and elected to add another player who was PF/C.

In mean time, we spent 4-5 years without single SF on roster.


True.

My issue is mostly with wording.

It was a "bad pick" in hindsight is a completely fair statement.

It was the "wrong pick" or saying it "didn't make sense" implies there was no logic or reason behind it and throws circumstance, general feelings at the time, mocks, scouting, the play of college Bamba out the window and is only viewed through the scope of who is better 4 years later and thus it's very easy to be 100% on because we know what has become of certain guys.



The "right" pick was clearly Mr. Trade-down. As an outright selection, Orlando again is probable to select Bamba.
Let's recall this was a 5-player draft were the Magic drafted 6th. Also, as to sucky picks, Marvin Bagley looks awful as Mr. #2 and Jaren Jackson does not looks very good at #4 (p.s. these were two super hyped PFs, if anyone want to be scared of Orlando's shiny new rookie)
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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#118 » by drsd » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:29 pm

Knightro wrote:
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Would anyone here want Bamba over Hartenstein? The answer to that question defines the logic of this thread's title.


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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#119 » by OrlandoMagic » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:31 pm

drsd wrote:
Knightro wrote:
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Would anyone here want Bamba over Hartenstein? The answer to that question defines the logic of this thread's title.


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Re: Magic do NOT extend a Qualifying Offer to Mo Bamba 

Post#120 » by VFX » Wed Jun 29, 2022 8:37 pm

drsd wrote:
Knightro wrote:
Read on Twitter




Would anyone here want Bamba over Hartenstein? The answer to that question defines the logic of this thread's title.


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Fine. I’ll say it. Either way it’s inconsequential because we are talking about back up centers. M. Wagner was serviceable. I’m more interested in rotation guys that matter. Like a shooting guard.

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