Paul George is planning to take free agent meetings with the Orlando Magic

[Rainwater]

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I think Orlandos biggest advantage is their depth/ability to make other moves.

Philly have 3 players under contract

After maxing George and Maxey they have about $14M + $8M exception to fill 9 spots.

But no real assets outside of that to make any significant moves.

Orlando will have around $3M + $8M exception to fill 3 spots

However a boat load of future assets to do with as they please.

Paul George gains about $9M more signing with Orlando due to state taxes.

That’s not even accounting for roster age/durability and longterm potential which I think Orlando favors Philly as well.

If he really doesn’t want to go back to LA and cares about winning a championship, he is not picking Orlando over Philly. Love Paolo and Franz but they aren’t the best version of themselves yet. Don’t know how you turn down playing with Prime Embiid and Maxey especially with your playing career nearing its end.

[TheChaser]

Come on PG, let’s get to Orlando!

[Rainwater]

Oh okay I get it. I thought they had flown out to California to meet with him tonight.

Maybe this is actually how it is, but I don't believe it to be the case.

I remember back in the day that is how it used to be done I don’t know if that is still the cases. I remember when the Magic pursed T-Mac, Hill, and Duncan they flew them out here and courted them, lol. The organization even flew out to their location as well.

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I think Orlandos biggest advantage is their depth/ability to make other moves.

Philly have 3 players under contract

After maxing George and Maxey they have about $14M + $8M exception to fill 9 spots.

But no real assets outside of that to make any significant moves.

Orlando will have around $3M + $8M exception to fill 3 spots

However a boat load of future assets to do with as they please.

Paul George gains about $9M more signing with Orlando due to state taxes.

That’s not even accounting for roster age/durability and longterm potential which I think Orlando favors Philly as well.

If he really doesn’t want to go back to LA and cares about winning a championship, he is not picking Orlando over Philly. Love Paolo and Franz but they aren’t the best version of themselves yet. Don’t know how you turn down with Prime Embiid and Maxey.

The reality is that Golden State and Philly have cornerstone players that are in their prime already and Orlando does not. If he chooses Orlando it means he’s fine with not contending and happier chasing money. That’s his decision.

Both he and Klay want it all. They want to make a lot of money, have long term stability, while also still competing. Neither of those guys want to go through what Chris Paul has been doing at this stage in his career bouncing from team to team trying to win a championship while remaining relevant.

Guy will be 39 when this contract is up. Not sure he will be the same player in a year or two.

[Knightro]

Guy will be 39 when this contract is up. Not sure he will be the same player in a year or two.

He'll be 37? He only just turned 34 last month.

24-25 season: 34
25-26 season: 35
26-27 season: 36
27-28 season: 37

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Guy will be 39 when this contract is up. Not sure he will be the same player in a year or two.

He'll be 37? He only just turned 34 last month.

24-25 season: 34
25-26 season: 35
26-27 season: 36
27-28 season: 37

Typo, yes 37.

How many 37 year olds sustain that level? Joe Ingles is 36.

There is a reason why Clippers aren’t wanting to give him 4 years at his price point.

[The-Stallion70]

Guy will be 39 when this contract is up. Not sure he will be the same player in a year or two.

He'll be 37? He only just turned 34 last month.

24-25 season: 34
25-26 season: 35
26-27 season: 36
27-28 season: 37

Math Brah!!

[Rainwater]

I think Orlandos biggest advantage is their depth/ability to make other moves.

Philly have 3 players under contract

After maxing George and Maxey they have about $14M + $8M exception to fill 9 spots.

But no real assets outside of that to make any significant moves.

Orlando will have around $3M + $8M exception to fill 3 spots

However a boat load of future assets to do with as they please.

Paul George gains about $9M more signing with Orlando due to state taxes.

That’s not even accounting for roster age/durability and longterm potential which I think Orlando favors Philly as well.

If he really doesn’t want to go back to LA and cares about winning a championship, he is not picking Orlando over Philly. Love Paolo and Franz but they aren’t the best version of themselves yet. Don’t know how you turn down with Prime Embiid and Maxey.

The reality is that Golden State and Philly have cornerstone players that are in their prime already and Orlando does not. If he chooses Orlando it means he’s fine with not contending and happier chasing money. That’s his decision.

Both he and Klay want it all. They want to make a lot of money, have long term stability, while also still competing. Neither of those guys want to go through what Chris Paul has been doing at this stage in his career bouncing from team to team trying to win a championship while remaining relevant.

Guy will be 39 when this contract is up. Not sure he will be the same player in a year or two.

Yeah, pretty much agree with this. If he does sign with the magic his priority is not winning.

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Guy will be 39 when this contract is up. Not sure he will be the same player in a year or two.

He'll be 37? He only just turned 34 last month.

24-25 season: 34
25-26 season: 35
26-27 season: 36
27-28 season: 37

Math Brah!!

Thanks for your valuable contribution to this conversation.

[basketballRob]

Guy will be 39 when this contract is up. Not sure he will be the same player in a year or two.

He'll be 37? He only just turned 34 last month.

24-25 season: 34
25-26 season: 35
26-27 season: 36
27-28 season: 37

Typo, yes 37.

How many 37 year olds sustain that level? Joe Ingles is 36.

Ingles just had an acl less than 2 years ago.

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[Knightro]

Guy will be 39 when this contract is up. Not sure he will be the same player in a year or two.

He'll be 37? He only just turned 34 last month.

24-25 season: 34
25-26 season: 35
26-27 season: 36
27-28 season: 37

Typo, yes 37.

How many 37 year olds sustain that level? Joe Ingles is 36.

Ingles was also pretty awful at 34 and 35, so it wasn't a big shock he was still bad at 36.

PG was really good last year and hasn't had any noticeable drop off in his play... yet.

Father Time is obviously undefeated, but I'd hope to get 2 really good years comparable to his last few seasons and then 2 solid years out of him.

[OrlandoMagic]

Say we do miss out on PG any idea where Derozan would go?

[The-Stallion70]

I have personally question whether PG is really going to be the best investment because of his age but for PG in particular, he has a few extreme positives going for him.

The two biggest things that allows a player's game to age well are:

-Shooting ability
-positional size

PG has both of these.

He also keeps himself in shape which is another big help.

Its alot of money but the Magic gotta strike now before our cap space goes away. People saying 'no' are not offering any alternative.

[SOUL]

If a two-way (albeit aging) all-star joining our team doesn't help us ease into contention, what will?

Please do not say Tyus Jones or slightly upgrading our center position lol.

In any position, we're still most likely a few years out.. which is why I was not freaking out about "only" getting KCP or Hartenstein.

Our contention starts and ends with how great Paolo/Franz/Suggs can be with their ceilings.

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He'll be 37? He only just turned 34 last month.

24-25 season: 34
25-26 season: 35
26-27 season: 36
27-28 season: 37

Typo, yes 37.

How many 37 year olds sustain that level? Joe Ingles is 36.

Ingles was also pretty awful at 34 and 35, so it wasn't a big shock he was still bad at 36.

PG was really good last year and hasn't had any noticeable drop off in his play... yet.

Father Time is obviously undefeated, but I'd hope to get 2 really good years comparable to his last few seasons and then 2 solid years out of him.

Why is LAC hesitant about giving him 4 years?

[Skybox]

I don't see PG coming unless there was another All-Star to team up with. I would be shocked if he came back to a small market team. He wanted to go home so bad so I don't see the logic especially when he complete control over the situation.

Um...there is one...and he's only 21!

[thelead]

Let’s not forget that it would mean that we would have 2 legit all-stars on this team with all of our picks to trade for a younger one that gets upset at their current team a year or 2 down the line (Booker)… all while still having Franz and Suggs. This would be a huge win for us.

[eyriq]

Just thinking about how good PG is currently and where he is heading, I'd say he's good enough to come in and be our second option right out of the gate and then transition to a 3rd option role as Franz passes him after next season.

He gets a top 5 grade in 2019, and then otherwise he's always at least top 40. Personally, I have him 29th last season. For context Paolo comes in at #32, Franz at #50, and Suggs at #109.

It is probably fair to expect PG to be a top 50 player through the next 3 seasons. If Paolo and Franz can get into the top 10 and 20 like we hope, we can be a contender within that window.

[Rainwater]

Say we do miss out on PG any idea where Derozan would go?

Hopefully not here lol. Joking aside I don’t know maybe Philly or Clips depending on where PG signs.

[thelead]

Typo, yes 37.

How many 37 year olds sustain that level? Joe Ingles is 36.

Ingles was also pretty awful at 34 and 35, so it wasn't a big shock he was still bad at 36.

PG was really good last year and hasn't had any noticeable drop off in his play... yet.

Father Time is obviously undefeated, but I'd hope to get 2 really good years comparable to his last few seasons and then 2 solid years out of him.

Why is LAC hesitant about giving him 4 years?

Their other contracts come off the books in 3 years and they don’t want to mess with their rebuild plan.