Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[CalOrl11]

Ok.. now with Goga injured, WCJ and JI unreliable health-wise. You think we need to trade for a C?

Im looking at the league and notice that POR has 4 good Cs. Ayton Clingan RWill and Rupo. Think we should get one of them?

Doubt they move on from Clingan already, RWill can barely stay healthy himself, Ayton wouldn't fit with this team and is making a bucket load of money.

[Skybox]

Looking at next year's 2025/26 salary, which is $27,678,571, Simons will pay Oregon USD$1,370,089.26 in state income tax. That is 41 home games. In Orlando, he thus gets a "raise" of that 1.4M.

So, yes, most NBA players make more take-home money playing in Florida than were-ever their current team is.

The states without state income tax are Alaska, Florida, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Wyoming.
This means that the players the the Heat, the Magic, the Spurs, the Mavs, the Rockets, and the Griz are the teams that take home more pay.
As an aside, the player who are with the Lakers, the Clippers, the Kings, the Warriors, and the Knicks, and the Nets do the worst.
(New York and California are the two NBA states with the highest state tax rates). They are 50th and 49th actually.

Not sure if you took it into account already, but rules were changed to lessen the impact of a tax-free state (somewhat). You are only paying zero state income tax on home games or games in tax-free states. Still a significant thing, but altered just a few years ago - to some extent.

well, changing from half your games played (home games) without tax will still add up to a lot.

Agree 100%. That's what I said - just wondering if his calculations included that

[RookieStar]

Ok.. now with Goga injured, WCJ and JI unreliable health-wise. You think we need to trade for a C?

Im looking at the league and notice that POR has 4 good Cs. Ayton Clingan RWill and Rupo. Think we should get one of them?

Doubt they move on from Clingan already, RWill can barely stay healthy himself, Ayton wouldn't fit with this team and is making a bucket load of money.

Yeah but all we need is a rental as well.... so bad trade partner then

[CalOrl11]

Ok.. now with Goga injured, WCJ and JI unreliable health-wise. You think we need to trade for a C?

Im looking at the league and notice that POR has 4 good Cs. Ayton Clingan RWill and Rupo. Think we should get one of them?

Doubt they move on from Clingan already, RWill can barely stay healthy himself, Ayton wouldn't fit with this team and is making a bucket load of money.

Yeah but all we need is a rental as well.... so bad trade partner then

I agree that we should try and trade for a center, maybe we could swoop in for Day'Ron Sharpe?

[drsd]

Not sure if you took it into account already, but rules were changed to lessen the impact of a tax-free state (somewhat). You are only paying zero state income tax on home games or games in tax-free states. Still a significant thing, but altered just a few years ago - to some extent.

well, changing from half your games played (home games) without tax will still add up to a lot.

Agree 100%. That's what I said - just wondering if his calculations included that

To quote me, "That is 41 home games". So yes, Simons would put $1.37M more in his bank if he was in Orlando next year (or any of the other no-tax states: Texas and Tennessee).

[drsd]

... changed to lessen the impact of a tax-free state (somewhat). You are only paying zero state income tax on home games or games in tax-free states.

Also, the reverse is true. Orlando's next game in in Milwaukee. And for that game the Magic players will pay Wisconsin state tax. So: for 41 games the Magic are on a Florida taxation scale, and the other 41 road games, it's game by game as to the tax liability.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Doesn’t really mean much, but interesting nonetheless the less.

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It would most likely be something like

Cole Anthony
Gary Harris
‘25 FRP via Denver

For

Collin Sexton

Drew Eubanks could probably also be thrown in if Orlando wanted.

[basketballRob]

https://www.procamps.com/simonsfl

Without actually asking Simons himself nobody knows what he actually values contract wise. He still does run a Summer Camp in Altamonte Springs so maybe the idea of playing back home is appealing. There are some things people would give up monetary incentives for, as stated he’s already getting a raise just by avoiding State Income Tax. Can you put a value on what the Magic offer, a chance to play Playoff basketball, a chance to be back home, no state income tax, playing with two All Stars that will make his job easier, a head coach that has so much respect around the league and cares about his players on a personal level. The incentives of just being apart of this team would/could appear to be way more valuable than money.

He's going to go wherever they offer him the most.

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He's going to go where he's traded...and, in a year, we'll decide what he's worth TO US.

How many highly-compensated guys are changing teams over raw dollars these days? It's rarely as simple (and NEVER as certain) as you like to paint things.

Bill Duffy has a lot of pull, and I'm sure Simons gets traded where he'll get the biggest extension this summer. I didn't even realize that Black is one of his clients, too.

https://basketball.realgm.com/info/agent-client-list/Bill-Duffy/16

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[RookieStar]

Doubt they move on from Clingan already, RWill can barely stay healthy himself, Ayton wouldn't fit with this team and is making a bucket load of money.

Yeah but all we need is a rental as well.... so bad trade partner then

I agree that we should try and trade for a center, maybe we could swoop in for Day'Ron Sharpe?

Guy from BKN? They rebuilding, Sharpe is on a cheap contract compared yo Claxton right? Why would they try to get rid of him first?

[RookieStar]

Doesn’t really mean much, but interesting nonetheless the less.

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=U-6BxaJHr50VVe8YqOpDSQ

It would most likely be something like

Cole Anthony
Gary Harris
‘25 FRP via Denver

For

Collin Sexton

Drew Eubanks could probably also be thrown in if Orlando wanted.

Huh... is this a " smoke theres fire " or just completely random?

But yeah.. DA prefers picks i think so as much as i want to include Cole, he probably prefer the expiring Harris plus frp plus srps

[Magic_Johnny12]

Doesn’t really mean much, but interesting nonetheless the less.

Read on Twitter

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It would most likely be something like

Cole Anthony
Gary Harris
‘25 FRP via Denver

For

Collin Sexton

Drew Eubanks could probably also be thrown in if Orlando wanted.

Huh... is this a " smoke theres fire " or just completely random?

But yeah.. DA prefers picks i think so as much as i want to include Cole, he probably prefer the expiring Harris plus frp plus srps

Probably random and best guess kind of odds.

We had the best odds for Fox a few weeks ago and Simons if I’m not mistaken.

Orlando doesn’t have any other expirings (outside of Mo) that they can use in a trade and I doubt they consider Mo unless it was for a Fox level trade to justify it.

But given Cole’s recent play and his relationship with the team, I’m not sure Sexton is worth messing with chemistry mid season and the more I look at our roster and current trajectory it’s probably a safe bet we don’t do nothing at this years deadline.

HOWEVER, I could def. see them trying to get someone that is bought out (Brogdon/Ball/Brown etc.)

[RookieStar]

Doesn’t really mean much, but interesting nonetheless the less.

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=U-6BxaJHr50VVe8YqOpDSQ

It would most likely be something like

Cole Anthony
Gary Harris
‘25 FRP via Denver

For

Collin Sexton

Drew Eubanks could probably also be thrown in if Orlando wanted.

Huh... is this a " smoke theres fire " or just completely random?

But yeah.. DA prefers picks i think so as much as i want to include Cole, he probably prefer the expiring Harris plus frp plus srps

Probably random and best guess kind of odds.

We had the best odds for Fox a few weeks ago and Simons if I’m not mistaken.

Orlando doesn’t have any other expirings (outside of Mo) that they can use in a trade and I doubt they consider Mo unless it was for a Fox level trade to justify it.

But given Cole’s recent play and his relationship with the team, I’m not sure Sexton is worth messing with chemistry mid season and the more I look at our roster and current trajectory it’s probably a safe bet we don’t do nothing at this years deadline.

HOWEVER, I could def. see them trying to get someone that is bought out (Brogdon/Ball/Brown etc.)

I dunno... having Cole Sexton and AB in the 2nd unit along with wcj and JI sounds perfect for me.

[tiderulz]

... changed to lessen the impact of a tax-free state (somewhat). You are only paying zero state income tax on home games or games in tax-free states.

Also, the reverse is true. Orlando's next game in in Milwaukee. And for that game the Magic players will pay Wisconsin state tax. So: for 41 games the Magic are on a Florida taxation scale, and the other 41 road games, it's game by game as to the tax liability.

well, minus road games vs Miami, Memphis, Washington Wizards and the Texas teams.

[MasterGMer]

Doesn’t really mean much, but interesting nonetheless the less.

Read on Twitter

?s=46&t=U-6BxaJHr50VVe8YqOpDSQ

It would most likely be something like

Cole Anthony
Gary Harris
‘25 FRP via Denver

For

Collin Sexton

Drew Eubanks could probably also be thrown in if Orlando wanted.

Cole has been playing well lately. Plus if we had to give up a FRP along with Cole. I'd rather not making the move

[SOUL]

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[drsd]

... changed to lessen the impact of a tax-free state (somewhat). You are only paying zero state income tax on home games or games in tax-free states.

Also, the reverse is true. Orlando's next game in in Milwaukee. And for that game the Magic players will pay Wisconsin state tax. So: for 41 games the Magic are on a Florida taxation scale, and the other 41 road games, it's game by game as to the tax liability.

well, minus road games vs Miami, Memphis, Washington Wizards and the Texas teams.

Ah yes: DC doesn't have a "state-tax".

[JRoy]

Ok.. now with Goga injured, WCJ and JI unreliable health-wise. You think we need to trade for a C?

Im looking at the league and notice that POR has 4 good Cs. Ayton Clingan RWill and Rupo. Think we should get one of them?

Doubt they move on from Clingan already, RWill can barely stay healthy himself, Ayton wouldn't fit with this team and is making a bucket load of money.

POR isn’t moving a C they just drafted in the lotto who has met expectations.

The other 3 all have warts, pick your poison.

[CalOrl11]

Yeah but all we need is a rental as well.... so bad trade partner then

I agree that we should try and trade for a center, maybe we could swoop in for Day'Ron Sharpe?

Guy from BKN? They rebuilding, Sharpe is on a cheap contract compared yo Claxton right? Why would they try to get rid of him first?

The Lakers have rumoured to be in discussion with Brooklyn over Sharpe so he could be on the table for the right price. He's a RFA this off-season and Brooklyn can off load him a lot easier than Claxton, I'd expect they'd want some draft compensation though.

[drsd]

I dunno... having Cole Sexton and AB in the 2nd unit along with wcj and JI sounds perfect for me.

Sexton was only a part-time starter last year and the year past, so maybe.

Certainly he would be taking Anthony's place on this roster, which means a trade something like:

Anthony, Howard and the Denver FRP for Sexton and Juzang.

Sounds quite lateral to me, but the depth chart is fairly clear with that trade.

[Skybox]

I dunno... having Cole Sexton and AB in the 2nd unit along with wcj and JI sounds perfect for me.

Sexton was only a part-time starter last year and the year past, so maybe.

Certainly he would be taking Anthony's place on this roster, which means a trade something like:

Anthony, Howard and the Denver FRP for Sexton and Juzang.

Sounds quite lateral to me, but the depth chart is fairly clear with that trade.

I don't think it's lateral at all. Sexton's offensive efficiency is miles ahead of Cole's. He's MUCH more of a threat from deep and he gets to the line more. Perhaps Sexton's FTA and assist advantage can be attributed to minutes, but his shooting % (overall and, especially from 3, are far superior to Cole's). Cole's had some big moments lately and the best personality but Sexton's just a better player. I don't think there's any scenario where both are an option - too expensive for redundant bench players. In the unlikely case that Weltman does something to improve our backcourt playmaking - Cole really has to go. If the other team won't take on his remaining year, I could see him moved for very little - just to clear cap this summer for the incoming extensions and, hopefully, some re-working of the bench rotation so that we're not spending so much on guys we can't rely on.