EXTEND WELTMAN

[cedric76]

I would wager money that the extension hits around training camp.

Well deserved

We ll be a 2nd apron team only next season then we ll be well under the 2nd apron, awesome money mangement

[HighPack]

How the hell Jabari got the extension before Paolo? Weltman slept again.

[JoshuaPotter]

Not feeling him well enough to extend him yet. Want to see the product on the court before so I can get my excuses right if they extend him and it pans out or doesn't.

[eyriq]

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[drsd]

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Happy to bet eyriq's house that the Magic go for the Over here!

This poll does have the Magic as the 3-seed.
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[eyriq]

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Happy to bet eyriq's house that the Magic go for the Over here!

This poll does have the Magic as the 3-seed.
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Easy over

[pepe1991]

Wizards, Blazers easiest over in history.

[eyriq]

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[JoshuaPotter]

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No, stop. (Not directed at you the tweet).

I'd consider it insanely optimistic if Franz got to just under league average 3-ball like 33/34%.

WCJ hasn't averaged a double double in ages.

Suggs did 40% 1x and I would just be happy if he clipped 36-38% this season. Paolo scoring 27 is realistic if his TS improves. That's about it.

Bane i'm just gonna wait and see and not comment. Let's see how he does first.

[eyriq]

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No, stop. (Not directed at you the tweet).

I'd consider it insanely optimistic if Franz got to just under league average 3-ball like 33/34%.

WCJ hasn't averaged a double double in ages.

Suggs did 40% 1x and I would just be happy if he clipped 36-38% this season. Paolo scoring 27 is realistic if his TS improves. That's about it.

Bane i'm just gonna wait and see and not comment. Let's see how he does first.

You’re setting the bar so low a Roomba could clear it. Franz has bumped his volume and mechanics every season; betting against him cracking league-average is lazy. Wendell’s double-double totals matter about as much as jersey numbers when his real value is his screen-assist and defensive versatility. Suggs shot 40 percent once, fixed his base, and you are already penciling him back to 36 like progress only runs in reverse. Paolo at 27 on better TS is “realistic” but the rest of the roster is frozen in time? Come on. If you insist on sandbagging every projection, at least bring something sturdier than “let’s wait and see.”

[JoshuaPotter]

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No, stop. (Not directed at you the tweet).

I'd consider it insanely optimistic if Franz got to just under league average 3-ball like 33/34%.

WCJ hasn't averaged a double double in ages.

Suggs did 40% 1x and I would just be happy if he clipped 36-38% this season. Paolo scoring 27 is realistic if his TS improves. That's about it.

Bane i'm just gonna wait and see and not comment. Let's see how he does first.

You’re setting the bar so low a Roomba could clear it. Franz has bumped his volume and mechanics every season; betting against him cracking league-average is lazy. Wendell’s double-double totals matter about as much as jersey numbers when his real value is his screen-assist and defensive versatility. Suggs shot 40 percent once, fixed his base, and you are already penciling him back to 36 like progress only runs in reverse. Paolo at 27 on better TS is “realistic” but the rest of the roster is frozen in time? Come on. If you insist on sandbagging every projection, at least bring something sturdier than “let’s wait and see.”

Well shucks, now I have to direct it at you.

Betting the whole farm on doing something again after doing it 1x (Suggs 3-ball) isn't sandbagging. I think 38% would be amazing, above league average. 40% is legit hard to do. That's all.

Wendell double doubles just haven't happened in years. You moved the goal post and pointed out another stat. Stop it. I never said he didn't bring value, I said he hasn't averaged a double-double in ages.

Franz went from 35/36 to 28-29. I am projecting he figures it out and splits the difference. Because going from 29 to personal best + and almost a double digit increase has me skeptical and we should be skeptical.

Bane being what he has always been? I think that's fair, lets see how it materializes was my intent. 50/40/90 is a potentially attainable stat either 1 or all 3 + 20ppg is all possible. "let's wait and see" was directed at him.

I whole heart believe that if all players met my projections we would be a 60 win team in the east right now because its cream puff unless we have another disastrous injury season.

[eyriq]

No, stop. (Not directed at you the tweet).

I'd consider it insanely optimistic if Franz got to just under league average 3-ball like 33/34%.

WCJ hasn't averaged a double double in ages.

Suggs did 40% 1x and I would just be happy if he clipped 36-38% this season. Paolo scoring 27 is realistic if his TS improves. That's about it.

Bane i'm just gonna wait and see and not comment. Let's see how he does first.

You’re setting the bar so low a Roomba could clear it. Franz has bumped his volume and mechanics every season; betting against him cracking league-average is lazy. Wendell’s double-double totals matter about as much as jersey numbers when his real value is his screen-assist and defensive versatility. Suggs shot 40 percent once, fixed his base, and you are already penciling him back to 36 like progress only runs in reverse. Paolo at 27 on better TS is “realistic” but the rest of the roster is frozen in time? Come on. If you insist on sandbagging every projection, at least bring something sturdier than “let’s wait and see.”

Well shucks, now I have to direct it at you.

Betting the whole farm on doing something again after doing it 1x (Suggs 3-ball) isn't sandbagging. I think 38% would be amazing, above league average. 40% is legit hard to do. That's all.

Wendell double doubles just haven't happened in years. You moved the goal post and pointed out another stat. Stop it. I never said he didn't bring value, I said he hasn't averaged a double-double in ages.

Franz went from 35/36 to 28-29. I am projecting he figures it out and splits the difference. Because going from 29 to personal best + and almost a double digit increase has me skeptical and we should be skeptical.

Bane being what he has always been? I think that's fair, lets see how it materializes was my intent. 50/40/90 is a potentially attainable stat either 1 or all 3 + 20ppg is all possible. "let's wait and see" was directed at him.

I whole heart believe that if all players met my projections we would be a 60 win team in the east right now because its cream puff unless we have another disastrous injury season.

One hot stretch is noise, two seasons of cleaner mechanics is a trend. Suggs should live in the high-30s now. Wendell’s job is switching and spacing, not chasing ten boards. Franz’s ankle and usage cratered the percentage; his touch says 35 plus with Bane pulling help. Betting on that progression is reading the tape, not moving goalposts.

[JoshuaPotter]

You’re setting the bar so low a Roomba could clear it. Franz has bumped his volume and mechanics every season; betting against him cracking league-average is lazy. Wendell’s double-double totals matter about as much as jersey numbers when his real value is his screen-assist and defensive versatility. Suggs shot 40 percent once, fixed his base, and you are already penciling him back to 36 like progress only runs in reverse. Paolo at 27 on better TS is “realistic” but the rest of the roster is frozen in time? Come on. If you insist on sandbagging every projection, at least bring something sturdier than “let’s wait and see.”

Well shucks, now I have to direct it at you.

Betting the whole farm on doing something again after doing it 1x (Suggs 3-ball) isn't sandbagging. I think 38% would be amazing, above league average. 40% is legit hard to do. That's all.

Wendell double doubles just haven't happened in years. You moved the goal post and pointed out another stat. Stop it. I never said he didn't bring value, I said he hasn't averaged a double-double in ages.

Franz went from 35/36 to 28-29. I am projecting he figures it out and splits the difference. Because going from 29 to personal best + and almost a double digit increase has me skeptical and we should be skeptical.

Bane being what he has always been? I think that's fair, lets see how it materializes was my intent. 50/40/90 is a potentially attainable stat either 1 or all 3 + 20ppg is all possible. "let's wait and see" was directed at him.

I whole heart believe that if all players met my projections we would be a 60 win team in the east right now because its cream puff unless we have another disastrous injury season.

One hot stretch is noise, two seasons of cleaner mechanics is a trend. Suggs should live in the high-30s now. Wendell’s job is switching and spacing, not chasing ten boards. Franz’s ankle and usage cratered the percentage; his touch says 35 plus with Bane pulling help. Betting on that progression is reading the tape, not moving goalposts.

No, changing the stat line on Wendell is moving the goal post.

The rest is just my honest assessment.

If all 5 players met all those things at the exact same time for a season and we never have an injury we would be one of the greatest teams of all time and that's just not a fair expectation. Especially when we had so many close games. Right now I think we have the potential to be an ECF and even Finals team. If healthy, facing an identical OKC team it could be winnable because we have some of the best backcourt defense in the league. That has been a repeatable stat.

[Orlando Dawg]

Jett Howard probably makes more money in 1 year by being a mouth breather on the Magic bench than Weltman will make in his entire career.

[JoshuaPotter]

Jett Howard probably makes more money in 1 year by being a mouth breather on the Magic bench than Weltman will make in his entire career.

Oh man is it getting warm in here?

[BadMofoPimp]

Jett Howard probably makes more money in 1 year by being a mouth breather on the Magic bench than Weltman will make in his entire career.

Really need to trade him for peanuts like attach 2 or 3 seconds for a future 2nd then use that money to get to min vets at this stage or maybe bring back Caleb or Queen.

[PrimeThyme]

Weltman has had alot of misses. From a scouting and free agency standpoint, I still have serious doubts on his ability to execute year over year.

However, if you want to talk about a 4 month stretch that can define a whole career the stretch he had from March 2021 until the draft that year was just that. Flipping an aging non all NBA Vucevic into what became an All-NBA caliber 6'10 Wing and positioned us to draft Suggs in the top 5 was a stroke of brilliance (potentially luck) that laid the foundation for a small market contender.

I think alot of things can still be said about Weltman, but as we enter what appears to be another era of bad GM'ing with presidents like Dumars lighting lottery firsts on fire, I dont think it's the worst to have one who probably falls somewhere in the 9-15 range for a small market tram.

The reality is he's got 3 potential All-stars under 27 in an Eastern conference next year set for the taking. Probably giving us the best shot since 2010 to come out of the East.

That does mean something to me.

[j-ragg]

on one hand weltman has done good to get us this roster we have now.

On the other, we still haven’t had an offense not be bottom 10 since he’s been here. He did take forever to pull the plug on Vuc and Fournier treadmill. He has a few hits in the draft and a few misses. At least he got the highest picks right.

I wouldn’t extend him but this organization loves continuity like it is oxygen so I’d expect it to happen.

[Def Swami]

on one hand weltman has done good to get us this roster we have now.

On the other, we still haven’t had an offense not be bottom 10 since he’s been here. He did take forever to pull the plug on Vuc and Fournier treadmill. He has a few hits in the draft and a few misses. At least he got the highest picks right.

I wouldn’t extend him but this organization loves continuity like it is oxygen so I’d expect it to happen.

I think that’s why you got to wait and see how it plays out this year.

[j-ragg]

on one hand weltman has done good to get us this roster we have now.

On the other, we still haven’t had an offense not be bottom 10 since he’s been here. He did take forever to pull the plug on Vuc and Fournier treadmill. He has a few hits in the draft and a few misses. At least he got the highest picks right.

I wouldn’t extend him but this organization loves continuity like it is oxygen so I’d expect it to happen.

I think that’s why you got to wait and see how it plays out this year.

Yeah I get that. I just don’t think it should go unnoticed that it took a decade to get to this point in Weltman’s contract year.