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Post#101 » by maginno » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:07 am

ORL wrote:For what it's worth, I'll put down whomever I feel like putting down at any time if I feel like that poster merits being put down.


A little birdie told me that what was continuing here would be entertaining. LOL! NO lie there. This is rich. Hats off to ORL. I'm lovin you man. The first long time poster to FINALLY lay bare his hypocrisy . LOving that you used to be a mod and loving that you are representing the longer term posters. Your like my poster boy for everything I saw here. Its like you just stepped out of the closet and confessed to the world your own arrogance and I love how the waves part and theres not a criticism of your post because - drum roll - like I always said - He agrees with you alls point of view so its okay. Thats all that ever mattered

SO I tell you what - Ya bunch a hypocrites :rofl:


-I'll take apart any posts logic I feel like taking apart since your comrade in arms is free to put down whoever he feels like putting down because thats all you ever complain about. when I take apart the logic of your argument and it makes you feel silly. I'll skip the putting down of people like your main bro here (YO bro) and stick to the facts and you will still be upset.

Craig had a complete legitimate point that I took. Its the only reason I withdrew from this thread. This thread has been hijacked and no one talking about basketball cares. So put this all in a thread in its own area and see if I have any problems answering any of you. This crowd here? Yep. DEFINITELY - I'll run circles around you because it will be a cold day in that warm place before I have to run from my screen because of anything someone writes on an anonymous Internet forum.

:rofl: I haven't laughed so hard on this board for a while. I love you guys. Your prove me right every time.
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Post#102 » by ORL » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:26 am

I thought you were done. LOL. At least stick to your principles...

But I knew it... I knew there was something about you, you came back...

You do your thing, man, I'm sure I'll see you around here some more... But, like I said, make sure you're aware you're not the first and won't be the last in your little crusade you plan on doing here....
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Post#103 » by maginno » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:38 am

ORL wrote:I was hoping you wouldn't back out, which is why I didn't predict you would, and I thought there was maybe just a little something about you that was at least a little bit intriguing. But the fact you did just goes to further prove you are exactly what I said you would be.


and the fact that You said this after I said I was done with participating in the hijacking of this thread confirms the very level of integrity I thought you held. Debate me on an issue (Say one that has to relate to this thread which would be appropriate) and see if your head isn't swimming trying to keep up. this child play series of personal attacks isn't for grown ups so if you are a kid I'll pass. and no I'm not saying I am smarter than everyone. I'm saying - I'm smarter than you and I'm willing to prove it.

You up for it? IT would be fun and a way to get this thread back to what the subject matter was. Most of your pals are Otis lovers so care to debate me on that since thats where this all came from and it relates to management discussed in this thread. see I don't think you can debate intelligently. So what are you going to do now? Debate a subject to see whose right or do your own running away? I got my bets down and I say the color of your chips are yellow. Find that intriguing enough? Cause so far based on what you said we might have something in common - although I think you are all bluster - I absolutely ENJOY a good debate.

In words that you may understand better since they are short. I call your bluff. Lets really debate.
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Post#104 » by maginno » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:44 am

ORL wrote:I thought you were done. LOL. At least stick to your principles...

But I knew it... I knew there was something about you, you came back...

You do your thing, man, I'm sure I'll see you around here some more... But, like I said, make sure you're aware you're not the first and won't be the last in your little crusade you plan on doing here....


Poor baby. I get wind that he's saying something about my character behind my back and come back to confront him on it and now its - um....I'll see you around. All bluster no heart. Lets go Orl. A nice refreshing debate on the topic you rushed in on the tail end of. Don't be scared. I'll treat you civil and tear your arguments apart.

cause you know what? After the revelations you've made I can't explain it but I kinda like you. At least you got some spunk.
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Post#105 » by ORL » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:50 am

What are you talking about? Debate you on Otis about what? How in the world do you have ANY idea about what ANY of my views on Otis are like? Have I ever at ANY point given you ANY indication on this? How do you call a guy out without really having an idea of what you're talking about?

For the record, just FYI, my opinion on him is that he's been inconsistent as a GM.

And before I forget, I came back to edit but I might as well put it here. That little part you quoted me on up there is the most basic right of ANY poster on here and has NOTHING to do with me being and ex-mod so long as it is done without breaking TOS. If you feel like I have done that, feel free to utilize the report function and I will be dealt with appropriately.
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Post#106 » by ORL » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:55 am

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Poor baby. I get wind that he's saying something about my character behind my back and come back to confront him on it and now its - um....I'll see you around. All bluster no heart. Lets go Orl. A nice refreshing debate on the topic you rushed in on the tail end of. Don't be scared. I'll treat you civil and tear your arguments apart.

cause you know what? After the revelations you've made I can't explain it but I kinda like you. At least you got some spunk.


It's just principle. If you're done, you're done. Really nothing else.
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Post#107 » by maginno » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:27 am

ORL wrote:What are you talking about? Debate you on Otis about what? How in the world do you have ANY idea about what ANY of my views on Otis are like? Have I ever at ANY point given you ANY indication on this? How do you call a guy out without really having an idea of what you're talking about?


He he. what thread are you in guy? thats how we got here. Or did you just come rushing in headlong without knowing whats the basis of my disagreements with people on this board? (don't answer we already know the answer)

And before I forget, I came back to edit but I might as well put it here. That little part you quoted me on up there is the most basic right of ANY poster on here and has NOTHING to do with me being and ex-mod so long as it is done without breaking TOS


really then whats the basis of your complaint?. Obviously if you feel you have the right to put people down like YOU said then you must believe you possess some superiority in some way? smarter? better opinion (same thing). You are right and they are wrong (same thing)? Or do you just flip a coin and determine who should be put down? To use your word claiming that that is your right REEKS of arrogance. Remember that? And when you said that I was stating that I didn't think I was smarter than everyone while you now state you have the right to put down whoever you feel like. pull up the clothing there because your hypocrisy is showing.

and if it didn't have anything to do with you being an ex mod it certainly does now that you as an exmod are representing that even as a non mod you have the right to put people down based on your feeling. Is that what being a mod taught you? It goes a long way to explaining why at least one mod I know of takes it upon himself to character assassinate entire posts at a time.

At any rate You've been caught in hypocrisy. Putting down someone means when you are done you consider yourself higher on the issue you put them down on. Clearly an air of superiority which not so coincidentally was the very thing you were railing against me on. tsk tsk.


NOw I don't maintain that right. I call points silly and only in the heat of an argument will i at times attach the silliness to a person which isn't a justification anywhere approaching what you claim is your right to put the people themselves down (or better yet you claim the right to slam them also).

IF you love a good debate why did you make it so easy to dispense with your whole argument? boring to say the least. and this is what I was supposed to have been running away from?
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Post#108 » by maginno » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:41 am

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It's just principle. If you're done, you're done. Really nothing else.


Dude you aren't in any position to talk about principles after claiming the right to slam and put down people and you are in ZERO position to tell me what my principles are. I WAS done then I got wind that you were using it to further slander me rather than let the thread die. MY principles tell me never to let such things go. People who do such things ALWAYS need confrontation or they do it to someone else. Now you are just backing away because you can't get to do it behind my back anymore.


Now get some of our cronies to come in and make the same observations and then everyone will see what you all stand for - that you will defend character assassinations behind peoples back out of one side of your mouths and having principles out of the other.
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Post#109 » by richboy » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:50 am

prorl wrote:I dont understand the obssesion with some when it comes to G. Wallace and Kapono. It would have cost us alot more than what Cha is paying him now to get him because he was restricted and they wanted him back. And although he scores around 20 per game, he is not the scorer and shooter that Lewis is which has helped Dwight and Hedo with spacing and defensive attention. Just look at our record and compare it to the Kittycats record who happen to be in our division. When it comes to Kapono, the guy right now cant even do what he is really good at. Despite a good %, he has made a whooping 6 three point baskets since January 1. Thats 3 since Feb 1, two of those in their last game.


Interesting thread.

Gerald Wallace was a unrestricted free agent last year though. If you know Charlotte as cheap as they are he was easily the biggest bargain in free agency. The Cats wouldn't even give Emeka a big contract. The Cats realized with no buyers that they could play hard ball on Gerald. Perhaps it would cost more to get him out but it wouldn't cost near what Lewis received. Although knowing Wallace agent and how he wanted out of Charlotte before it wouldn't shock me if he took alittle less.

He isn't the shooter that Rashard is. Like I said though it seems some people are obsessed with shooting. You don't think this team improves its perimeter defense and its rebounding with Wallace. You don't need a team full of jump shooters to win in this league.

I keep hearing Wallace isn't the scorer that Lewis is and that is a mystery. Lewis has had 3 seasons above 20 and 2 were right at 20. Its not like Lewis is Carmelo Anthony. IMO Wallace is a much more difficult one on one cover than Rashard. Despite not shooting Wallace is as explosive to the basket as any player in the league.

Like I said before were talking shear production here. The fact is the Magic are paying Rashard this year what Nocioni and Wallace are making combined. YOu want to make a case that he is better than them then fine but make a case that he better than them combined.


Nocioni per 36 minutes 8.5 million (believe his contract goes down in value) 5 years 37.5 million

2007-08 28 CHI NBA 64 27 1709 6.7 15.5 .435 2.3 6.4 .368 3.3 4.3 .779 0.8 5.3 6.2 1.7 0.5 0.7 2.3 4.3 19.1

Gerald Wallace per 36 minutes 7.5 million 6 years 57 million

2007-08 25 CHA NBA 49 49 1928 6.3 14.2 .449 1.0 3.3 .309 5.1 7.0 .721 1.0 4.7 5.7 3.3 2.0 0.9 2.8 3.0 18.8

Rashard Lewis per 36 minutes salary 15.6 million 6 years 118 million

2007-08 28 ORL NBA 64 64 2486 6.0 13.3 .449 2.6 6.4 .404 2.6 3.1 .843 1.1 3.7 4.8 2.2 1.1 0.4 1.7 2.4 17.2

Seriously how can there be any justification for paying Rashard twice more than two guys that outproduce him. You must really think that 3 pointer is worth some serious money.

Wallace does get the concussions now. Thats not the reason he not playing with the Magic though. Fact is the guy coming in to visit if Rashard didn't sign was Gerald Wallace. My bet Otis would have given Wallace the max. I have no proof on that statement. Only that Otis has consistently overpaid for players.
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Post#110 » by Bensational » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:19 am

i think LOL has been a little overused in this thread. judging from the tone, i can't imagine many of you guys laughing out loud, unless it was in a maniacal fashion.
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Post#111 » by cwas2882 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:02 pm

Bensational wrote:i think LOL has been a little overused in this thread. judging from the tone, i can't imagine many of you guys laughing out loud, unless it was in a maniacal fashion.


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Post#112 » by mhectorgato » Wed Mar 12, 2008 1:13 pm

richboy wrote:Interesting thread.


Quite the understatement. LOL (that's for you Ben)

richboy wrote:I keep hearing Wallace isn't the scorer that Lewis is and that is a mystery. Lewis has had 3 seasons above 20 and 2 were right at 20. Its not like Lewis is Carmelo Anthony. IMO Wallace is a much more difficult one on one cover than Rashard. Despite not shooting Wallace is as explosive to the basket as any player in the league.


Don't know about that ... he's not scoring much from the bench.

Has he ever played 98% of the games in a season? No.
How about 95%? No.
Ok how about 92? No.
Well has ever played 90% No.

The best he did was 2 seasons ago was 87.8% when he played 72 games. If he had only one season were didn't didn't most of the games, then it would be different. He has a history of being injury prone.

And when you're injured, you're on the bench, and when you're on the bench you're extremely easy to guard.

54 - 28 missed/DNPCD (rookie)
47 - 35 missed/DNPCD
37 - 45 missed/DNPCD
70 - 12 missed
55 - 27 missed
72 - 10 missed

How many has he missed this season already?

14 and counting.

richboy wrote:Wallace does get the concussions now. Thats not the reason he not playing with the Magic though. Fact is the guy coming in to visit if Rashard didn't sign was Gerald Wallace. My bet Otis would have given Wallace the max. I have no proof on that statement. Only that Otis has consistently overpaid for players.


You mean "now" as in 4 consecutive seasons, right?

Not just concussions, but he's also had knee injuries.
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Post#113 » by maginno » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:10 pm

Bensational wrote:i think LOL has been a little overused in this thread. judging from the tone, i can't imagine many of you guys laughing out loud, unless it was in a maniacal fashion.


Normally true but I got to tell you seeing what some board members were up to late in this thread did have me laughing out loud. Confirmed alot of things I thought before.So it was entirely appropriate. Extreme hypocrisy does get funny sometimes. Cry or get upset over it? nah you have to tear it apart and expose it but its still just a board . I thank ORL and Gato for it. refreshing honesty. I kind of like ORL for it. Got a little spunk which I always admire. Gato can be very witty sometimes so I like somethings about the guy too. No hard feelings whether you believe it or not.
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Post#114 » by mhectorgato » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:15 pm

maginno wrote:Normally true but I got to tell you seeing what some board members were up to late in this thread did have me laughing out loud. Confirmed alot of things I thought before.So it was entirely appropriate. Extreme hypocrisy does get funny sometimes. Cry or get upset over it? nah you have to tear it apart and expose it but its still just a board . I thank ORL and Gato for it. refreshing honesty. I kind of like ORL for it. Got a little spunk which I always admire. Gato can be very witty sometimes so I like somethings about the guy too. No hard feelings whether you believe it or not.


None here either. Life around here would be so much more enjoyable - for everyone I'm sure - if the 'tude was, at the minimum, toned down quite a bit.
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Post#115 » by maginno » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:28 pm

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prorl wrote:Wallace does get the concussions now. Thats not the reason he not playing with the Magic though. Fact is the guy coming in to visit if Rashard didn't sign was Gerald Wallace. My bet Otis would have given Wallace the max. I have no proof on that statement. Only that Otis has consistently overpaid for players.


I don't know how an argument can be made based on injury when Battie is out for the year and had injuries to my recollection last year yet we were depending on him being the only PF. I do think that Stan of all people would help Wallace pick his spots. Thats exactly what Wade credits Stan for as a coach (wade might be out again this year but its from the same injury as last year)

One thing I think is certain. Wallace here would make us a sight better on defense than present. certainly could do with a player that gives 20 and 6 rebounds a game and one of my key points is that he is a sight more tradeable because I don't think theres any indication that Wallace was looking for the Max like Shard was. I give Otis a little credit. I doubt he went in saying I am going to give the max. He just got hoodwinked by Shard's agent.
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Post#116 » by mhectorgato » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:40 pm

maginno wrote:I don't know how an argument can be made based on injury when Battie is out for the year and had injuries to my recollection last year yet we were depending on him being the only PF. I do think that Stan of all people would help Wallace pick his spots. Thats exactly what Wade credits Stan for as a coach (wade might be out again this year but its from the same injury as last year)


Because this isn't Battie's 4th rotator cuff injury in as many seasons.

Because this was an atypical injury for him.

Because Battie played in 81 (only game missed due to suspension) and 82 games his first (of 4) 2 seasons with us.

Because Battie's 66 last year was only 6 games shy of Wallace's career best.

Because Wallace's nickname, Crash, is related to inherent approach to the game.

Because Wallace's history shows that he's never played an entire season.

One thing I think is certain. Wallace here would make us a sight better on defense than present. certainly could do with a player that gives 20 and 6 rebounds a game and one of my key points is that he is a sight more tradeable because I don't think theres any indication that Wallace was looking for the Max like Shard was. I give Otis a little credit. I doubt he went in saying I am going to give the max. He just got hoodwinked by Shard's agent.


Why would Wallace maintain his scoring average when going from a bad team to a 2nd or 3rd option on the Magic?

Shard last season was 22 and 6.6. His career average is virtually 6 boards.
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Post#117 » by Optimus_Steel » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:50 pm

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prorl wrote:I dont understand the obssesion with some when it comes to G. Wallace and Kapono. It would have cost us alot more than what Cha is paying him now to get him because he was restricted and they wanted him back. And although he scores around 20 per game, he is not the scorer and shooter that Lewis is which has helped Dwight and Hedo with spacing and defensive attention. Just look at our record and compare it to the Kittycats record who happen to be in our division. When it comes to Kapono, the guy right now cant even do what he is really good at. Despite a good %, he has made a whooping 6 three point baskets since January 1. Thats 3 since Feb 1, two of those in their last game.


Interesting thread.

Gerald Wallace was a unrestricted free agent last year though. If you know Charlotte as cheap as they are he was easily the biggest bargain in free agency. The Cats wouldn't even give Emeka a big contract. The Cats realized with no buyers that they could play hard ball on Gerald. Perhaps it would cost more to get him out but it wouldn't cost near what Lewis received. Although knowing Wallace agent and how he wanted out of Charlotte before it wouldn't shock me if he took alittle less.

He isn't the shooter that Rashard is. Like I said though it seems some people are obsessed with shooting. You don't think this team improves its perimeter defense and its rebounding with Wallace. You don't need a team full of jump shooters to win in this league.

I keep hearing Wallace isn't the scorer that Lewis is and that is a mystery. Lewis has had 3 seasons above 20 and 2 were right at 20. Its not like Lewis is Carmelo Anthony. IMO Wallace is a much more difficult one on one cover than Rashard. Despite not shooting Wallace is as explosive to the basket as any player in the league.

Like I said before were talking shear production here. The fact is the Magic are paying Rashard this year what Nocioni and Wallace are making combined. YOu want to make a case that he is better than them then fine but make a case that he better than them combined.


Nocioni per 36 minutes 8.5 million (believe his contract goes down in value) 5 years 37.5 million

2007-08 28 CHI NBA 64 27 1709 6.7 15.5 .435 2.3 6.4 .368 3.3 4.3 .779 0.8 5.3 6.2 1.7 0.5 0.7 2.3 4.3 19.1

Gerald Wallace per 36 minutes 7.5 million 6 years 57 million

2007-08 25 CHA NBA 49 49 1928 6.3 14.2 .449 1.0 3.3 .309 5.1 7.0 .721 1.0 4.7 5.7 3.3 2.0 0.9 2.8 3.0 18.8

Rashard Lewis per 36 minutes salary 15.6 million 6 years 118 million

2007-08 28 ORL NBA 64 64 2486 6.0 13.3 .449 2.6 6.4 .404 2.6 3.1 .843 1.1 3.7 4.8 2.2 1.1 0.4 1.7 2.4 17.2

Seriously how can there be any justification for paying Rashard twice more than two guys that outproduce him. You must really think that 3 pointer is worth some serious money.

Wallace does get the concussions now. Thats not the reason he not playing with the Magic though. Fact is the guy coming in to visit if Rashard didn't sign was Gerald Wallace. My bet Otis would have given Wallace the max. I have no proof on that statement. Only that Otis has consistently overpaid for players.


LOL so now were are combining total production from 2 players on different teams to one in another team. Why dont you combine team records as well lol. Come on man you can do better than that.
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Post#118 » by maginno » Wed Mar 12, 2008 2:56 pm

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None here either. Life around here would be so much more enjoyable - for everyone I'm sure - if the 'tude was, at the minimum, toned down quite a bit.


Well it starts in the mirror Gato. You certainly were not contributing to a tone down after I left because I thought it was a hijack of the thread. Not by any logical stretch and don't see all the locals getting all upset when ORL writes

For what it's worth, I'll put down whomever I feel like putting down at any time if I feel like that poster merits being put down.



Now that I call you out on it I suppose there may be some disclaimers but
We both know that people would be all over that like flies on sugar calling it condescending if I wrote that. NO QUESTION. My boy even added to it later by saying he decides based on his own criteria who to slam and that as an exmod he was stating that its every posters RIGHT. Hard to not see as part of the - what was it someone else said?...."culture of the board " when you have an exmod and a present mod that writes entire posts with nothing but attacks and then one says its part of being a board member? Why should anyone tone it down after that?

Mums the word from you. thats another reason I can't be mad at you guys. How can I be when you prove what I have been saying for months. In fact I'm grateful because its sure proof that will soon be in my signature that you only get upset with posters when they disagree with you not out of any sense of tone or decorum.

However at the end of the day I have to come back to one thing. You both have EXCELLENT choice in teams. No matter what it seems like you are from some posts clearly that goes to a high degree of intelligence no matter how we quibble. argue or food fight. You can't make such an informed decision without a good degree of intelligence.

ON to the playoffs which by the way will find me suspending all criticism of Otis. To me the real season has always been the playoffs .
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Post#119 » by mhectorgato » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:04 pm

maginno wrote:Well it starts in the mirror Gato. You certainly were not contributing to a tone down after I left because I thought it was a hijack of the thread. Not by any logical stretch and don't see all the locals getting all upset when ORL writes

Now that I call you out on it I suppose there may be some disclaimers but
We both know that people would be all over that like flies on sugar calling it condescending if I wrote that. NO QUESTION. My boy even added to it later by saying he decides based on his own criteria who to slam and that as an exmod he was stating that its every posters RIGHT. Hard to not see as part of the - what was it someone else said?...."culture of the board " when you have an exmod and a present mod that writes entire posts with nothing but attacks and then one says its part of being a board member? Why should anyone tone it down after that?

Mums the word from you. thats another reason I can't be mad at you guys. How can I be when you prove what I have been saying for months. In fact I'm grateful because its sure proof that will soon be in my signature that you only get upset with posters when they disagree with you not out of any sense of tone or decorum.


Like it or not, people's reactions to others are colored by their reputations. In your short time here, you've developed quite a strong reputation. Quite a few posters have called you for your attitude.

If I were the only one doing so, it would be completely different. But I'm sure the list has at there very minimum of a half dozen established posters who have done so.

I've called out posters who've agreed with me in the past. I've called out posters on this board for trolling other boards.

<added>You have every right to be as abrasive as you wish to be. But, the flipside of that is that your going to cause people to react, usually negatively. Perhaps that's your goal, don't know, not really sure what other reason there is to come off in this manner.

Don't be surprised that if you talk down to or insult other people that they will respond in kind.

Speaking for myself, it's almost become a Pavlovian type of response for me. I see your name and think: "What Otis bashing will appear here..." or "How will he insult someone's intelligence in this thread...".

Not all of your posts are in that vein, but enough to build that type of response.

Again, several posters have commented on this. It's out there. It's up to you to chose to accept this or not. But if not, there don't be surprised by the reaction you get to your posts. From your posts, I'm quite sure you realize why you get such a reaction to posts already. And most likely that's what you're trying to accomplish.</added>

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My aim is avoid posts like that in the future. If things start to go down that path, I'm just not going to respond. I've already adjusted my posting behaviour in regards your posts.

For me this like going down to the pub to watch the game. A bunch of Magic fans enjoying their success, and talking about the team. Or at times crying in their beer about the stupid moves of the GM.

That being my view, who would welcome in that environment some one who is known for their repeated abrasive, self admitted condescending, and insulting remarks
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maginno wrote:However at the end of the day I have to come back to one thing. You both have EXCELLENT choice in teams. No matter what it seems like you are from some posts clearly that goes to a high degree of intelligence no matter how we quibble. argue or food fight. You can't make such an informed decision without a good degree of intelligence.

ON to the playoffs which by the way will find me suspending all criticism of Otis. To me the real season has always been the playoffs .


And why do you feel that you are so distinctly qualified to judge other's intelligence through the internet?
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Post#120 » by maginno » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:26 pm

Battie is out for an entire year and even when healthy plays SUBSTANTIALLY less minutes and contributes less than Wallace when he is healthy. So when you adjust minutes on the floor (which after all is all that matters) you come much closer to Battie even when he is healthy.

Theres nothing inherent about going all out. with experience and good coaching you learn to pick your spots. For someone thats actually seen more Heat games then most of you I can tell you Wade used to hit the deck A LOT more. He credits none other than Stan for that so perfect coach for it here.

When you factor in that you would have another player out of the money left then its a wash with better defense, options for when your outside shot isn't falling, more rebounding and much more easily traded pieces to upgrade cause any way you slice it this isn't your championship team.

Now of course you can't just transplant numbers form one team to another but it goes to show what the player is capable of and since team chemistry has a lot to do with things you would be still playing an up tempo game but would go inside more often so Wallace would get his touches.

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