Official Speculation Thread (Pt XIII, Mods Close)

Nyce_1 · Post #1001 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:02 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:So can we trade the pick or not?

YES

mhi · Post #1002 » by **mhi** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:03 pm

So if u guys have been reading the scouting reports, you would know that this team needs two things.

1) A shot creator (for himself first and then others)
2) A legit perimeter defender

I get that te proposed Nash or Ellis trades would address #1 but who do those trades bring in that can improve #2 ?

You guys' proposed trades should definately consider both of those needs and omit unnecessary things like back up centers.

Nolimit1211 · Post #1003 » by **Nolimit1211** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:05 pm

magicfanejc42 wrote:Only plausible trade I can think of for Sessions, Daniel Orton, Quentin Richardson for Sessions. We'd probably have to throw in cash or a second rounder. We'd also need to find a place to send Duhon.

That's honestly the worst trade I've seen in a while...

Daniel Orton... Q.Rich.... and possibly a 2nd rounder.

magicman123 · Post #1004 » by **magicman123** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:06 pm

mhi wrote:So if u guys have been reading the scouting reports, you would know that this team needs two things.

1) A shot creator (for himself first and then others)
2) A legit perimeter defender

I get that te proposed Nash or Ellis trades would address #1 but who do those trades bring in that can improve #2 ?

You guys' proposed trades should definately consider both of those needs and omit unnecessary things like back up centers.

defense is not the bigger problem, we have people that can defend on the wings if needed...we need scoring..20th in points scored, will be a problem in the playoffs when the game slows down

Nyce_1 · Post #1005 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:26 pm

quick side note - the GSW front office are some complete idiots. Why do you amnesty Charlie Bell, who's $4M contract was expiring THIS YEAR, and not Beindrins? Why even use it?

Nolimit1211 · Post #1006 » by **Nolimit1211** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:29 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:quick side note - the GSW front office are some complete idiots. Why do you amnesty Charlie Bell, who's $4M contract was expiring THIS YEAR, and not Beindrins? Why even use it?

they needed the capspace to sign RFA DeAndre Jordon to an offer sheet... and Beindrins was their only true C.

magicman123 · Post #1007 » by **magicman123** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:30 pm

Nolimit1211 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:quick side note - the GSW front office are some complete idiots. Why do you amnesty Charlie Bell, who's $4M contract was expiring THIS YEAR, and not Beindrins? Why even use it?

they needed the capspace to sign RFA DeAndre Jordon to an offer sheet... and Beindrins was their only true C.

lol double fail, dumbarses

Blue_and_Whte · Post #1008 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:32 pm

magicman123 wrote:
Nolimit1211 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:quick side note - the GSW front office are some complete idiots. Why do you amnesty Charlie Bell, who's $4M contract was expiring THIS YEAR, and not Beindrins? Why even use it?

they needed the capspace to sign RFA DeAndre Jordon to an offer sheet... and Beindrins was their only true C.

lol double fail, dumbarses

rcklsscognition · Post #1009 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:34 pm

Really intriguing scenario coming up where Nets may end up having to move D-Will before Howard. Common sense says there's no way they give up D-Will, but a lot of people are fairly sure he's headed to Dallas this summer anyway.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1010 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:34 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:quick side note - the GSW front office are some complete idiots. Why do you amnesty Charlie Bell, who's $4M contract was expiring THIS YEAR, and not Beindrins? Why even use it?

They needed Biedrens and did not expect him to be this awful. And they used it on Bell so they could sign Jordan to an offer sheet

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1011 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:37 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Really intriguing scenario coming up where Nets may end up having to move D-Will before Howard. Common sense says there's no way they give up D-Will, but a lot of people are fairly sure he's headed to Dallas this summer anyway.

But who gives up anything for a guy thats a lock to leave? That'd be a franchise crusher for the Nets if he walks. Harris, Favors, and picks is a steep price to pay for a rental

rcklsscognition · Post #1012 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:38 pm

PeePee la Fritz wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Really intriguing scenario coming up where Nets may end up having to move D-Will before Howard. Common sense says there's no way they give up D-Will, but a lot of people are fairly sure he's headed to Dallas this summer anyway.

But who gives up anything for a guy thats a lock to leave? That'd be a franchise crusher for the Nets if he walks. Harris, Favors, and picks is a steep price to pay for a rental

Sounds like us with Dwight except at least we didn't give up anything to acquire Howard.

SEBAS-07 · Post #1013 » by **SEBAS-07** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:39 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Really intriguing scenario coming up where Nets may end up having to move D-Will before Howard. Common sense says there's no way they give up D-Will, but a lot of people are fairly sure he's headed to Dallas this summer anyway.

Maybe the Celtics trade Rondo for Deron Williams, and try to convince Howard to sign with them next season?

Nyce_1 · Post #1014 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:39 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:Really intriguing scenario coming up where Nets may end up having to move D-Will before Howard. Common sense says there's no way they give up D-Will, but a lot of people are fairly sure he's headed to Dallas this summer anyway.

If true, I'm about to get my ass suspended with some hard trolling on their board. I was sick of seeing their comments about our situation and how it was a sure thing DWill & Dwight play in NJ. Really sucks they gave up A LOT to get DWill but that's the risk you take when trading for a player who feels no connection to your franchise when he's about to opt out. At least they'll move into that new arena with Brooks & Brook. :roll:

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1015 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:40 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
PeePee la Fritz wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Really intriguing scenario coming up where Nets may end up having to move D-Will before Howard. Common sense says there's no way they give up D-Will, but a lot of people are fairly sure he's headed to Dallas this summer anyway.

But who gives up anything for a guy thats a lock to leave? That'd be a franchise crusher for the Nets if he walks. Harris, Favors, and picks is a steep price to pay for a rental

Sounds like us with Dwight except at least we didn't give up anything to acquire Howard.

Can you imagine the outrage on this forum if Orlando gives up Anderson and JJ for Nash and then Dwight and Nash walk over the summer

fendilim · Post #1016 » by **fendilim** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:43 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:quick side note - the GSW front office are some complete idiots. Why do you amnesty Charlie Bell, who's $4M contract was expiring THIS YEAR, and not Beindrins? Why even use it?

Not as idiotic as Otis though.

Nyce_1 · Post #1017 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:44 pm

fendilim wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:quick side note - the GSW front office are some complete idiots. Why do you amnesty Charlie Bell, who's $4M contract was expiring THIS YEAR, and not Beindrins? Why even use it?

Not as idiotic as Otis though.

must be in the water.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #1018 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:46 pm

Odom just got assigned to the D-League :lol:

Nyce_1 · Post #1019 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:51 pm

PeePee la Fritz wrote:Odom just got assigned to the D-League

he said he wanted to play there to get legs under him. Apparently, just 1 game.

Post #1020 » by **Def Swami** » Fri Mar 2, 2012 5:52 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:Rudolph:

"initially Otis wanted Nash but heard some things and decided to go after Ellis"
"Winning changes a lot; Dwight cares about the city and admires Rich and thinks 1 more piece can push us to the top"
"trade request was private and Otis leaked to public"
"if we get Ellis or Nash, Dwight would opt in to play with new piece and get some wins under their belt. Also cause he knows 2013 is a better FA pool and he can team up witH more options"
"Nobody wants Brook Lopez"
"Dwight knows a team that trades for him won't be a better situation because they'd have to gut the team"
"at the end of the day, Dwight wants to stay but management needs to make moves"

I think it was a very good interview. From the way he was talking, Dwight is ours to lose.

That was the most interesting take away for me from that interview. If Dwight can just be patient, he can have his own super team here.